UK Boxing - Bellew/McKenzie --- Burns/Cook --- Murray/Mitchell - Discussion Thread

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Originally Posted by ryanman

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Cook looks like he's shitting it.

Because of the fight or the dive he's gonna make? ;D

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What's this dive thing about?

I was watching the Copa America on the other channel in between fights.

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Bookies stopped taking bets due to suspicious betting patterns relating to Burns winning via KO in 3rd. So we were watching for that. Cook obviously misheard the message though.

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The third was where the biggest plunge in odds happended but just the KO was clearly backed off the boards.

I can't believe how blatant that was. Amazing.

Go on Ed Chambelin - "farce"!!!

Fucking disgrace.

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Originally Posted by ryanman

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Cook looks like he's shitting it.

Because of the fight or the dive he's gonna make? ;D

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What's this dive thing about?

I was watching the Copa America on the other channel in between fights.

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Bookies stopped taking bets due to suspicious betting patterns relating to Burns winning via KO in 3rd. So we were watching for that. Cook obviously misheard the message though.

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It definitely looks dodgy. I mean in his defence I will say that I've fractured my hand & broken my nose in the ring & the adrenaline gets you through it, but the time that I pulled a muscle in my lower back (thankfully only in sparring) I was completely unable to do anything.

But, the issue is that if it was that bad then I don't know how he passed tests & how he trained through it. The fact it got mentioned in advance is dodge. Add in the betting thing & this looks very, very wrong. I agree with Ed, that was a farce.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by ryanman

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Cook looks like he's shitting it.

Because of the fight or the dive he's gonna make? ;D

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What's this dive thing about?

I was watching the Copa America on the other channel in between fights.

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Bookies stopped taking bets due to suspicious betting patterns relating to Burns winning via KO in 3rd. So we were watching for that. Cook obviously misheard the message though.

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The third was where the biggest plunge in odds happended but just the KO was clearly backed off the boards.

I can't believe how blatant that was. Amazing.

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Oh shit. I just thought it was specifically the 3rd. In that case, that was 100% a fucking disgrace.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

The third was where the biggest plunge in odds happended but just the KO was clearly backed off the boards.

I can't believe how blatant that was. Amazing.

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CutMeMick the money man behind this decision as well...there will be an inquiry into this theory!

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Go on Ed Chambelin - "farce"!!!

Fucking disgrace.

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well said! ;D

who you got next then boys?

really hope murray and mitchell can save this show!

Funny how good this show was looking beforehand.

If both these guys are fit, up for it and give 100% it really is a 50/50

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

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Originally Posted by ryanman

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Cook looks like he's shitting it.

Because of the fight or the dive he's gonna make? ;D

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What's this dive thing about?

I was watching the Copa America on the other channel in between fights.

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Bookies stopped taking bets due to suspicious betting patterns relating to Burns winning via KO in 3rd. So we were watching for that. Cook obviously misheard the message though.

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It definitely looks dodgy. I mean in his defence I will say that I've fractured my hand & broken my nose in the ring & the adrenaline gets you through it, but the time that I pulled a muscle in my lower back (thankfully only in sparring) I was completely unable to do anything.

But, the issue is that if it was that bad then I don't know how he passed tests & how he trained through it. The fact it got mentioned in advance is dodge. Add in the betting thing & this looks very, very wrong. I agree with Ed, that was a farce.

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That's the thing. This looks too wrong now. I was joking about Cook taking a dive before but really hoped it wouldn't happen.

The only 'out' I see is that all the money piled in on Burns via KO due to insider knowledge that there was no way Cook was able to go the distance due to his back rather than a dive as such.

So what will go wrong in this one?

I'm betting that Mitchell OD's in the 2nd.

I meant Ed Robinson not Ed Chamberlin (he's the football bloke, right?) ;D

Fuck! Can't believe how blatant that was.

(Devastated I didn't steam into Burns when I first heard of the fix :rolleyes:)

Ok, Mitchell -Murray.

If Mitchell is fit, focused and sharp I think he wins via mid-late round KO.
If however he isn't (I don't think he will be) I think Murray will blast him out in about 4/5/6.

I hope Mitchell does it though.

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

So what will go wrong in this one?

I'm betting that Mitchell OD's in the 2nd.

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You're on form today.

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Originally Posted by ryanman

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

It definitely looks dodgy. I mean in his defence I will say that I've fractured my hand & broken my nose in the ring & the adrenaline gets you through it, but the time that I pulled a muscle in my lower back (thankfully only in sparring) I was completely unable to do anything.

But, the issue is that if it was that bad then I don't know how he passed tests & how he trained through it. The fact it got mentioned in advance is dodge. Add in the betting thing & this looks very, very wrong. I agree with Ed, that was a farce.

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That's the thing. This looks too wrong now. I was joking about Cook taking a dive before but really hoped it wouldn't happen.

The only 'out' I see is that all the money piled in on Burns via KO due to insider knowledge that there was no way Cook was able to go the distance due to his back rather than a dive as such.

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I'm normally the last to accuse a fighter of something like this. I mentioned Liston, Seldon & Briggs above, but in all those cases I think there's reason to believe that they simply got blasted (Liston from another angle did appear to get hit hard & did try to carry on, Seldon was shit & Briggs was reportedly having the same things happening every day in sparring).

Unfortunately here, the way he seemed to almost turn his back into it, just gives me have the gut feeling that he threw it. I really hope I'm wrong.

who the hell comes up with these entrance themes:p

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Originally Posted by Fenster

I meant Ed Robinson not Ed Chamberlin (he's the football bloke, right?) ;D

Fuck! Can't believe how blatant that was.

(Devastated I didn't steam into Burns when I first heard of the fix :rolleyes:)

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Yeah, I was going to correct you on the Eds, but I was too busy being disgusted.

I fear this could end up terrible as well. Hope not & I hope Mitchell delivers. At least he's looking at his opponent this time unlike before the Katsidis fight

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

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Originally Posted by ryanman

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

It definitely looks dodgy. I mean in his defence I will say that I've fractured my hand & broken my nose in the ring & the adrenaline gets you through it, but the time that I pulled a muscle in my lower back (thankfully only in sparring) I was completely unable to do anything.

But, the issue is that if it was that bad then I don't know how he passed tests & how he trained through it. The fact it got mentioned in advance is dodge. Add in the betting thing & this looks very, very wrong. I agree with Ed, that was a farce.

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That's the thing. This looks too wrong now. I was joking about Cook taking a dive before but really hoped it wouldn't happen.

The only 'out' I see is that all the money piled in on Burns via KO due to insider knowledge that there was no way Cook was able to go the distance due to his back rather than a dive as such.

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I'm normally the last to accuse a fighter of something like this. I mentioned Liston, Seldon & Briggs above, but in all those cases I think there's reason to believe that they simply got blasted (Liston from another angle did appear to get hit hard & did try to carry on, Seldon was shit & Briggs was reportedly having the same things happening every day in sparring).

Unfortunately here, the way he seemed to almost turn his back into it, just gives me have the gut feeling that he threw it. I really hope I'm wrong.

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thing is IF he has a long standing problem with his back, it could have just gone. I know someone with a dodgy back, he can be fine digging the garden then a couple of weeks later be a bent up cripple. Hell I've pulled a muscle sneezing;D

maybe word of his glass back out was doing the rounds..

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

So what will go wrong in this one?

I'm betting that Mitchell OD's in the 2nd.

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;D;D

That is good. Sick. But cracked me up.

* Note - Isn't MC Mark Burdiss just awe-inspiring? Such power and passion! What a voice. ;D

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

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Originally Posted by ryanman

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

It definitely looks dodgy. I mean in his defence I will say that I've fractured my hand & broken my nose in the ring & the adrenaline gets you through it, but the time that I pulled a muscle in my lower back (thankfully only in sparring) I was completely unable to do anything.

But, the issue is that if it was that bad then I don't know how he passed tests & how he trained through it. The fact it got mentioned in advance is dodge. Add in the betting thing & this looks very, very wrong. I agree with Ed, that was a farce.

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That's the thing. This looks too wrong now. I was joking about Cook taking a dive before but really hoped it wouldn't happen.

The only 'out' I see is that all the money piled in on Burns via KO due to insider knowledge that there was no way Cook was able to go the distance due to his back rather than a dive as such.

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I'm normally the last to accuse a fighter of something like this. I mentioned Liston, Seldon & Briggs above, but in all those cases I think there's reason to believe that they simply got blasted (Liston from another angle did appear to get hit hard & did try to carry on, Seldon was shit & Briggs was reportedly having the same things happening every day in sparring).

Unfortunately here, the way he seemed to almost turn his back into it, just gives me have the gut feeling that he threw it. I really hope I'm wrong.

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thing is IF he has a long standing problem with his back, it could have just gone. I know someone with a dodgy back, he can be fine digging the garden then a couple of weeks later be a bent up cripple. Hell I've pulled a muscle sneezing;D

maybe word of his glass back out was doing the rounds..

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I'd totally agree if it was just that on its own. It's all the other factors & the way he seemed to turn into it that worries me. Good opening 30 seconds from Mitchell.

If Mitchell is at peak performance I think he gets it, but Murray on points if Mitchell's anything but top notch.

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

So what will go wrong in this one?

I'm betting that Mitchell OD's in the 2nd.

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By the way if that happens Jaz I'm calling fix on you pretty loud.

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Originally Posted by ryanman

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

So what will go wrong in this one?

I'm betting that Mitchell OD's in the 2nd.

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;D;D

That is good. Sick. But cracked me up.

* Note - Isn't MC Mark Burdiss just awe-inspiring? Such power and passion! What a voice. ;D

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I've heard HBO want him when the 3rd version of Michael Buffer finally dies. I loved the thing about Mitchell 'sorting himself out with the help of his parents' ;D

Mitchell is doing well here though, definitely took that. C'mon Kev!

Mitchell so much quicker and impressive with those right hand body shots

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Originally Posted by ryanman

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

So what will go wrong in this one?

I'm betting that Mitchell OD's in the 2nd.

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;D;D

That is good. Sick. But cracked me up.

* Note - Isn't MC Mark Burdiss just awe-inspiring? Such power and passion! What a voice. ;D

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He used to be in a comedy called operation good guys. Was as funny as fuck!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATIk3gZyrgM

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Originally Posted by ryanman

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

So what will go wrong in this one?

I'm betting that Mitchell OD's in the 2nd.

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By the way if that happens Jaz I'm calling fix on you pretty loud.

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Aw fuck I think it's happening :-\

Fantastic round for Murray. 19-19

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Originally Posted by ryanman

Ok, Mitchell -Murray.

If Mitchell is fit, focused and sharp I think he wins via mid-late round KO.
If however he isn't (I don't think he will be) I think Murray will blast him out in about 4/5/6.

I hope Mitchell does it though.

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Hope mitchell does it too. Me and my bro been discussing the fight a lot this week and we both decided it hinges on what mitchell turns up. he has had a lot of problems and a 3 month training camp is not enough to undo nearly a year of bad living.

Watching it now and Mitchell is doing himself no favours going toe to toe

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Originally Posted by armyash

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Originally Posted by ryanman

Ok, Mitchell -Murray.

If Mitchell is fit, focused and sharp I think he wins via mid-late round KO.
If however he isn't (I don't think he will be) I think Murray will blast him out in about 4/5/6.

I hope Mitchell does it though.

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Hope mitchell does it too. Me and my bro been discussing the fight a lot this week and we both decided it hinges on what mitchell turns up. he has had a lot of problems and a 3 month training camp is not enough to undo nearly a year of bad living.

Watching it now and Mitchell is doing himself no favours going toe to toe

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I did not like that 2nd round at all. Get on your bike Mitchell!

They keep going on about the Prescott fight, but it wasn't like that was a shut-out. Most on here had it 8-4 or 9-3. I mean a clear win, but they act like it was Mayweather-Baldomir.

For all the Mark Burdiss fans, here he is as Don King!;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBfaJhpfaXA&feature=related

Either of these guys against Brandon Rios is akin to sanctioned murder :-\

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Originally Posted by ryanman

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Originally Posted by armyash

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Originally Posted by ryanman

Ok, Mitchell -Murray.

If Mitchell is fit, focused and sharp I think he wins via mid-late round KO.
If however he isn't (I don't think he will be) I think Murray will blast him out in about 4/5/6.

I hope Mitchell does it though.

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Hope mitchell does it too. Me and my bro been discussing the fight a lot this week and we both decided it hinges on what mitchell turns up. he has had a lot of problems and a 3 month training camp is not enough to undo nearly a year of bad living.

Watching it now and Mitchell is doing himself no favours going toe to toe

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I did not like that 2nd round at all. Get on your bike Mitchell!

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He does need to get on that bike and stay off the ropes, he doesn't look strong enough to trade for long periods compared to murray

Murray needs to get warned about that measuring with the left hand bollocks :mad:

Why do I just the feeling Mitchell is mentally going to wilt with all the pressure & leaning on that Murray is doing

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

Either of these guys against Brandon Rios is akin to sanctioned murder :-\

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It's not gonna be a good idea to throw either of them in with Bam-Bam, think he is just too damn strong!

Why is this fat fuck of a ref waddling about with a pervy smile on his face while he lets Murray measure with the left & punch Mitchell in the back as he holds him down??!

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

Either of these guys against Brandon Rios is akin to sanctioned murder :-\

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I think Antillon schools either of these guys too.

Murray wants to fight on the inside, the problem is he sucks at it.

Mitchell is winning, right?

Better for Mitchell, on yer bike