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Re: Jan Zaveck vs. Andre Berto fight thread - on HBO tonight
* Pirate yell * :weightlifter:
This poor fella going against Russell has that Deer in the headlights look, no?
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Re: Jan Zaveck vs. Andre Berto fight thread - on HBO tonight
Does the surname Miranda magically translate into punching power somehow?
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That is an unfortunate hairdo.
The worst do I can remember.
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Re: Jan Zaveck vs. Andre Berto fight thread - on HBO tonight
Lmao!! The only reason Russell Jr is getting the 8 round treatment on HBO is because of being an Olympian? My ass!!! It's because he's a Haymon boy. And we all know that HBO really stands for Haymon Boxing Organization. :mad:
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Re: Jan Zaveck vs. Andre Berto fight thread - on HBO tonight
Does everyone else hate self imposed sound effects?
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I am officially tired of hearing Roy :rolleyes:
Russell is real tense...thinking too much. Guys get dropped by unknown power hitting imports like that :-X
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Roy Jones is the best boxer-turned-commentator ever.
Please tell me you're joking? :dontknow:
I get tired of listening to him riding his own nuts, and the HBO crew always riding his nuts as well. Especially during Sergio Martinez's fights, they always try to compare the two, and it drives me crazy.
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I still wonder about Russells Jr's power
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....damn russels hands are pretty fast. He doesn't hit much. But fast either way
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I still wonder about Russells Jr's power
I'm starting to wonder about his fighter immagination...and mobility
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Roy Jones is the best boxer-turned-commentator ever.
Please tell me you're joking? :dontknow:
I get tired of listening to him riding his own nuts, and the HBO crew always riding his nuts as well. Especially during Sergio Martinez's fights, they always try to compare the two, and it drives me crazy.
This is the most I have ever heard Jones talk about himself, but even so he is able to break down the fight and explain what is going on better than any other ex-fighter that I have heard.
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I still wonder about Russells Jr's power
I'm starting to wonder about his fighter immagination...and mobility
Guessing/hoping its over confidence that he can stand there and not have to do much more. Not really a clever thing to do but arrogance is arrogance??
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Diane
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CFH
Roy Jones is the best boxer-turned-commentator ever.
Please tell me you're joking? :dontknow:
I get tired of listening to him riding his own nuts, and the HBO crew always riding his nuts as well. Especially during Sergio Martinez's fights, they always try to compare the two, and it drives me crazy.
Agreed, I've never cared for Jones Jr as a fighter, and even less as an announcer, I usually mute the sound.
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I hated tarver ....but he's pretty good behind the mic as well
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Nice hands. He should work on foot work, big time! Volume could use a shot of juju too
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I hated tarver ....but he's pretty good behind the mic as well
Definitely.
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I'm looking forward to seeing "Mr. Russell" get his ass handed to him as he moves up and faces the top dogs at Featherweight.
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Max is all over russels nuts, he's honestly not all that impressive. Hitting a lot of air with those punches, reminds me of devon alexander in that sense, garcia would take him out. Dude in front of him took the fight on short notice, relatively slow and still taggin him here n there, meh I guess they're gonna shove him down our throats one way or the other.
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Nice hands. He should work on foot work, big time! Volume could use a shot of juju too
He does seem to justbstand there and allow Miranda to throw combinations at him without moving feet or body. I think he's shown that he can do it, maybe it just needs drilling into him to step back them come in.
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CFH
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Originally Posted by
Diane
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Originally Posted by
CFH
Roy Jones is the best boxer-turned-commentator ever.
Please tell me you're joking? :dontknow:
I get tired of listening to him riding his own nuts, and the HBO crew always riding his nuts as well. Especially during Sergio Martinez's fights, they always try to compare the two, and it drives me crazy.
This is the most I have ever heard Jones talk about himself, but even so he is able to break down the fight and explain what is going on better than any other ex-fighter that I have heard.
Did you not see the Martinez/Dzinziruk fight? It was unbearable during that fight. It ruined the fight for me actually.
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Miranda is game, but he has no chance of winning this fight.
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I may be wayyy off. But Russell looks like he's stamina concious and just doing enough to get by...wheres the sustained explosion with a guy he can tee off on ???
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Diane
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Originally Posted by
CFH
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Originally Posted by
Diane
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Originally Posted by
CFH
Roy Jones is the best boxer-turned-commentator ever.
Please tell me you're joking? :dontknow:
I get tired of listening to him riding his own nuts, and the HBO crew always riding his nuts as well. Especially during Sergio Martinez's fights, they always try to compare the two, and it drives me crazy.
This is the most I have ever heard Jones talk about himself, but even so he is able to break down the fight and explain what is going on better than any other ex-fighter that I have heard.
Did you not see the Martinez/Dzinziruk fight? It was unbearable during that fight. It ruined the fight for me actually.
I only saw the last couple of rounds of that fight.
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Max is all over russels nuts, he's honestly not all that impressive. Hitting a lot of air with those punches, reminds me of devon alexander in that sense, garcia would take him out. Dude in front of him took the fight on short notice, relatively slow and still taggin him here n there, meh I guess they're gonna shove him down our throats one way or the other.
I think he';s got alot of potential... hes clearly got thing to work on thought.
Needs to realize he's not got great power, so just standing in the pocket isn't going to work for him stepping up. If he starts moving more and utilizing his speed I think he'd look alot more impressive.
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I may be wayyy off. But Russell looks like he's stamina concious and just doing enough to get by...wheres the sustained explosion with a guy he can tee off on ???
If he's just coasting for the sake of coasting it's a bad move. It's about time he stepped up to dominate guys and make some kind of statement. I dont want another Chad dawson
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Lee is rematching Vera? Interesting.
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Mar
I hated tarver ....but he's pretty good behind the mic as well
I agree, not a fan of Tarver the fighter, but he does a good job commentating.
And NO!!! I will not remove the swinging nuts. ;D
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When an opponents corner instructions are..."Get out...dont get hit...step to the side" its your duty to end the show on HBO.
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Russell needs more ESPN shows...or a recorded sparring session. But he ain't ready for this much HBO grooming and pillow biting on his stuff.
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Max is all over russels nuts, he's honestly not all that impressive. Hitting a lot of air with those punches, reminds me of devon alexander in that sense, garcia would take him out. Dude in front of him took the fight on short notice, relatively slow and still taggin him here n there, meh I guess they're gonna shove him down our throats one way or the other.
I think he';s got alot of potential... hes clearly got thing to work on thought.
Needs to realize he's not got great power, so just standing in the pocket isn't going to work for him stepping up. If he starts moving more and utilizing his speed I think he'd look alot more impressive.
Oh no question he's got potential and obviously he's young and has plenty of room for improvement, I just hate how hbo jumps on a decent prospects nuts like he's the next coming of robinson. He's a good prospect but just now they threw out the words "elite level skill" fuck of max.
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Spicoli
Russell needs more ESPN shows...or a recorded sparring session. But he ain't ready for this much HBO grooming and pillow biting on his stuff.
Looked like his arms were heavy at the end there. Nowhere near ready big exposure
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Meh....Jones is trying to hard as usual.
Wonder how well Russell knows Berto :-X
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Spicoli
Russell needs more ESPN shows...or a recorded sparring session. But he ain't ready for this much HBO grooming and pillow biting on his stuff.
The benefits of being an Al Haymon boy. :mad:
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Also these sort of match ups belong on fnf undercards
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Anyone else notice how Ledderman mentioned the major fights the judges had worked except the one who scored the fight where Roy was KO'd by Johnson?
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LukeH
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Spicoli
Russell needs more ESPN shows...or a recorded sparring session. But he ain't ready for this much HBO grooming and pillow biting on his stuff.
Looked like his arms were heavy at the end there. Nowhere near ready big exposure
Your right. He really seemed to just be watching the clock. I'm not sure if I blame the network more. Really.
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armin
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LukeH
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armin
Max is all over russels nuts, he's honestly not all that impressive. Hitting a lot of air with those punches, reminds me of devon alexander in that sense, garcia would take him out. Dude in front of him took the fight on short notice, relatively slow and still taggin him here n there, meh I guess they're gonna shove him down our throats one way or the other.
I think he';s got alot of potential... hes clearly got thing to work on thought.
Needs to realize he's not got great power, so just standing in the pocket isn't going to work for him stepping up. If he starts moving more and utilizing his speed I think he'd look alot more impressive.
Oh no question he's got potential and obviously he's young and has plenty of room for improvement, I just hate how hbo jumps on a decent prospects nuts like he's the next coming of robinson. He's a good prospect but just now they threw out the words "elite level skill" fuck of max.
I've not had HBO on so I didnt hear that, pretty stupid, a top prospect is what he is nothing more. Theres too much pressure for them to step up too soon, everyone looking for the next superstar without giving them time to develop.
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Re: Jan Zaveck vs. Andre Berto fight thread - on HBO tonight
My take on the main:
Zaveck has a 20% chance of winning a decision.
Zaveck has a 60% chance of getting fucked on the scorecards.
There's a !00% chance that HBO will be all over Berto's nuts.
And an 80% chance that Berto will win an unpopular decision.
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Am I the only person who thought Hopkins - Pascal II was a really close fight?
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Am I the only person who thought Hopkins - Pascal II was a really close fight?
I do feel it was closer a win for hop than the first meeting would have been without the kds.