Zelenoff sucker punches mayweather sr, then gets crap kicked out of him!!!!!

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Originally Posted by p4pking

That is really fucked up.. Anyone know the details on how it actually came to be that Floyd sr let the guy into the ring with him? Also who slaps him around a bit at the end? Zelenoff is lucky if he made it out of there without really getting hurt, to try and sucker punch an old man like that is really cringeworthy even without already getting clowned by him. And just how terrible do you have to be to not only get outboxed badly by an old man like that, but actually get the worst of it when it comes to shoving? It's clear little Charlie actually wanted to beat him up by any means possible and just couldn't, wheras Floyd was probably having mercy on the little shit..

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I'm 24, boxed for about 4 years, and am A LOT better than Zelenoff, and I would not fuck with Floyd Sr.

Its a lose/lose situation.

This video was pretty shocking, as many have said I do not know how a scrub like this lunatic Zelenoff even got into the ring with Floyd, but he got schooled, then got a beating for being a cheap shotting punk.

He shoulda told them that he learned that from watching the Ortiz Mayweather fight ;D;D

I thought it was quite tit for tat tbh. Zelenoff landed some decent stuff. Obv the sucker punch is complete BS tho thats an awful thing to do, you could get done for assault.

The video is getting viral and has in less than 12 hours 230 000 hits. Now every pro boxers must know who this troll is. Insane. Fighthype has even made an interview with Floyd Senior about the incident: FIGHTHYPE \\ FIGHTHYPE

For those who've never seen it, Zelenoff vs Hartley: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlxtDLPKnDA

Beside, Zelenoff got tattooed on his arm "Charlie Zelenoff, greatest fighter of all time". Very smart move to do. I hope for him he gets help before he gets killed or injured.

This website has some interesting stories about charlie

Official UBF Homepage

Take a look at what was JUST released yesterday internationally:

Heavy Meth Use Linked To Schizophrenia

Schizophrenia and meth linked, research suggests - Health - CBC News

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Originally Posted by MonsonFan

Take a look at what was JUST released yesterday internationally:

Heavy Meth Use Linked To Schizophrenia

Schizophrenia and meth linked, research suggests - Health - CBC News

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The advanced stages of stimulant addiction can look a lot like schizophrenia, but usually people who are suffering from schizophrenia and are unmedicated try to self medicate with drugs and alcohol. either way Charlie is a sick puppy and though people like to laugh and make fun of the kid he does need some serious help.

I boxed a guy who was mentally ill (though nobody told me at the time) he was a former Golden Gloves winner (I'm guessing at the state level...because I totally whipped his ass) and though he seemed like a good regular enough guy, shortly after our one and only sparring session he ended up stabbing his step father to death. Oh also I was told he was on crack later too...but hey, what are ya gonna do. Makes me feel kind of good having destroyed a murderer in the boxing ring, but on the other hand I feel bad because with proper help and medication he may not have been a murderer at all.

Here's an interview with Floyd Sr, telling how this all got started.


FIGHTHYPE \\ FLOYD MAYWEATHER SR: "HE AIN'T ABOUT NOTHING...HE WAS JUST A 23-YEAR-OLD PUNK"


BTW, Charlie needs a serious ass kicking. :bashtroll4cx4:

I hate to admit it, but Floyd Sr. looked pretty good in there for a 61 year old man. I don't know who was more out of line at the end of the video, Zelenoff or the young punk who jumped in the ring, it's hard to tell.

Charlie needs medication and a proper guidance.. Not an ass beating. Some of u must actually enjoy picking on a special ed kid.. Smh

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Originally Posted by Mars_ax

I hate to admit it, but Floyd Sr. looked pretty good in there for a 61 year old man. I don't know who was more out of line at the end of the video, Zelenoff or the young punk who jumped in the ring, it's hard to tell.

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Thats what I thought.

But, he's only 56 apparently. Damn video was titled wrong.

And I thought the young guy at the end was justified in his actions, if someone sucker punched my Father or mentor I would lose it and rampage on them as well.

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Anyone remember 'Danger' from Million Dollar Baby?

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That's exactly who Zelenoff reminds me of too. But in that case I kind of see those who got involved in this like the guys who knew he wasn't all there and then beat him up in the ring.

Then again, Danger didn't cheap shot anybody or act like a complete dick. Charlie needs to be in a straightjacket simply to stop him winging hooks in so wide, let alone for his own health.

People keep on referring to medication to help his problems, but why would meds help him? It's not always the solution to a problem, medication might be a short term solver but long term could be a lot more damaging. He surely needs help, but that help needs to come from his family and get him to stop doing all of this Internet boxing hype. It's the people who truely care for him need to help him. It's sad really because he really does need help, he could have got in a lot more bother with mayweather than he did! I hope he can get help asap because he might not get so lucky.

Floyd Sr must be a pretty down to earth dude if he's letting a deluded bum like Charlie z even be in the same gym as him, let alone the fact hes got a lung disease and hes sparring the bum, what really annoys me is the title saying charlie z beats floyd,

obviously posted by charlie himself cause frankkly he barely hit floyd the whole time floyd joy has still got it! haha..

love that one of Sr's gang beat him down for that sucker punch, WHAT was he thinking!! ;D

Charlie was lucky he didnt get a worse beating.

I remember when Charlie first started out as a 'pro' and he was spamming these ridiculous videos all over a fair few forums calling out other bums and fighting on tiny hick shows lol
he even had an account on this site that he was posting under, it was very funny, guys a wierdo

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I hate to admit it, but Floyd Sr. looked pretty good in there for a 61 year old man. I don't know who was more out of line at the end of the video, Zelenoff or the young punk who jumped in the ring, it's hard to tell.

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Thats what I thought.

But, he's only 56 apparently. Damn video was titled wrong.

And I thought the young guy at the end was justified in his actions, if someone sucker punched my Father or mentor I would lose it and rampage on them as well.

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BoxRec has Floyd Sr's Date of Birth as October 19, 1952, if correct he just turned 59 last month, for some reason I was thinking Sr. was in his mid-60's.

All I can say about this Zelenoff dude is, he's either trying to make a name for himself or he must have a "death wish".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRSOOZRjZHE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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People keep on referring to medication to help his problems, but why would meds help him? It's not always the solution to a problem, medication might be a short term solver but long term could be a lot more damaging. He surely needs help, but that help needs to come from his family and get him to stop doing all of this Internet boxing hype. It's the people who truely care for him need to help him. It's sad really because he really does need help, he could have got in a lot more bother with mayweather than he did! I hope he can get help asap because he might not get so lucky.

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Sadly, the one place where it's obvious he WON'T be getting help is from his family, as in this vid not only is his father enabling him by feeding into his delusions, but he's clearly as big a nutcase as Charlie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bQMhrtZSA4&feature=channel_video_title

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People keep on referring to medication to help his problems, but why would meds help him? It's not always the solution to a problem, medication might be a short term solver but long term could be a lot more damaging. He surely needs help, but that help needs to come from his family and get him to stop doing all of this Internet boxing hype. It's the people who truely care for him need to help him. It's sad really because he really does need help, he could have got in a lot more bother with mayweather than he did! I hope he can get help asap because he might not get so lucky.

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Sadly, the one place where it's obvious he WON'T be getting help is from his family, as in this vid not only is his father enabling him by feeding into his delusions, but he's clearly as big a nutcase as Charlie:

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I can't begin to tell you much being called an "internet mother-fucker" hurts me, this moronic father must be the baddest of the bad! :rolleyes:

Seriously, how has this dimwitted jerk lived as long as he has without someone beating him to death.
Zelenoff ~>:LOLATYOU:

I'd wager the conversation before his dad appeared in that video went something like, "Okay, Charlie. I'll do this video if you agree to go and see your social worker."

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It is interesting if pacquaio and mayweather will go to the ring;D

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Pac is on drugs and refuses to take the test.

Floyd is ready.

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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

People keep on referring to medication to help his problems, but why would meds help him? It's not always the solution to a problem, medication might be a short term solver but long term could be a lot more damaging. He surely needs help, but that help needs to come from his family and get him to stop doing all of this Internet boxing hype. It's the people who truely care for him need to help him. It's sad really because he really does need help, he could have got in a lot more bother with mayweather than he did! I hope he can get help asap because he might not get so lucky.

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Sadly, the one place where it's obvious he WON'T be getting help is from his family, as in this vid not only is his father enabling him by feeding into his delusions, but he's clearly as big a nutcase as Charlie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bQMhrtZSA4&feature=channel_video_title

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Fully understand now, Charlie is past the point of no return.

Ok guys, he has just offered to pay for everyone to have HBO....form an orderly queue please.

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I'd wager the conversation before his dad appeared in that video went something like, "Okay, Charlie. I'll do this video if you agree to go and see your social worker."

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When he (Charlie) ordered a rematch with Hartley only to sucker punch him while he was putting on his pants, Charlie's dad bitch slapped Charlie behind the head and was furious at how his son acted. Later we can see Eugene coming in and apologizing, saying that he tries to help his son but knows that once he's gone (Eugene), Charlie willl likely be killed or severly injured, he also talks about how the whole house is filled with punches marks on the walls and doors. I am pretty sure that your interpretation is correct and that the old man just have no clue how to deal with that situation even though it shoudn't be hard to figure out.

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I thought it was quite tit for tat tbh. Zelenoff landed some decent stuff. Obv the sucker punch is complete BS tho thats an awful thing to do, you could get done for assault.

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Landed some decent slaps on Sr's gloves, elbows and shoulders you mean?

Dude I thought you watched boxing... Charlie literally didn't land a thing.

I can't believe he actually got in the ring with him, this guy started out as a boxing forum joke. Now he's getting all the attention he doesn't deserve, he's not a real boxer and a 60 year old made him look like the joke he is. Just jog on you little mug seriously.

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I thought it was quite tit for tat tbh. Zelenoff landed some decent stuff. Obv the sucker punch is complete BS tho thats an awful thing to do, you could get done for assault.

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Landed some decent slaps on Sr's gloves, elbows and shoulders you mean?

Dude I thought you watched boxing... Charlie literally didn't land a thing.

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He landed a whole lot of attention...and landed on his arse as he was trying to scramble through the ropes. I really hope its some sort of publicity seeking stuff because if not he's not safe to be out on the streets.

any body know how to reach Cassius Green? email or phone? trying to reach him. thanks all

Harold Lederman would've scored that round for Zelenoff; he was the busier fighter, Mayweather didn't do enough to win it.
If Zelenoff isn't messing with the evil methamphetamine, he sure is missing a hell of a chance.

does anybody know how to reach cassius green?

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does anybody know how to reach cassius green?

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Why do you want to reach Cassius Green?

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does anybody know how to reach cassius green?

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Clearly not.

hahahaha Enjoyed watching that :)

He reminds me of that fella out of the film Million Dollar Baby "The Motor City Cobra" who gets a good kicking in sparring ;D

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hahahaha Enjoyed watching that :)

He reminds me of that fella out of the film Million Dollar Baby "The Motor City Cobra" who gets a good kicking in sparring ;D

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Kind of, except that Zelenoff is more mental, forces his Dad to pay 300-400 bucks for 2 belts out of titleboxing.com and to open himself a fake "UBF" (underground boxing federation) website in order to pretend that he's a champion.

As a wise asian liquor store lady once said " i feel sorry for you mother". She said she tried to abort this kid, but he fucked that up too.

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does anybody know how to reach cassius green?

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Why do you want to reach Cassius Green?

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he knows zelenoff and maybe can get me a fight with z

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does anybody know how to reach cassius green?

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Why do you want to reach Cassius Green?

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he knows zelenoff and maybe can get me a fight with z

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Unless it's a fixed fight, he will find thousand of excuses to ditch you.

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does anybody know how to reach cassius green?

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Why do you want to reach Cassius Green?

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he knows zelenoff and maybe can get me a fight with z

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You have to stand at the back of the 30 mile queue. :)

I've repeatedly offered to fight Zelenoff but with no luck. I'm clearly not a weak enough target or big enough name.

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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

People keep on referring to medication to help his problems, but why would meds help him? It's not always the solution to a problem, medication might be a short term solver but long term could be a lot more damaging. He surely needs help, but that help needs to come from his family and get him to stop doing all of this Internet boxing hype. It's the people who truely care for him need to help him. It's sad really because he really does need help, he could have got in a lot more bother with mayweather than he did! I hope he can get help asap because he might not get so lucky.

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Sadly, the one place where it's obvious he WON'T be getting help is from his family, as in this vid not only is his father enabling him by feeding into his delusions, but he's clearly as big a nutcase as Charlie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bQMhrtZSA4&feature=channel_video_title

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Groucho Marx just isn't funny anymore:-\

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People keep on referring to medication to help his problems, but why would meds help him? It's not always the solution to a problem, medication might be a short term solver but long term could be a lot more damaging. He surely needs help, but that help needs to come from his family and get him to stop doing all of this Internet boxing hype. It's the people who truely care for him need to help him. It's sad really because he really does need help, he could have got in a lot more bother with mayweather than he did! I hope he can get help asap because he might not get so lucky.

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Sadly, the one place where it's obvious he WON'T be getting help is from his family, as in this vid not only is his father enabling him by feeding into his delusions, but he's clearly as big a nutcase as Charlie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bQMhrtZSA4&feature=channel_video_title

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Groucho Marx just isn't funny anymore:-\

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When your father is forced to make videos adressing the "haters", something has dangerously turned out wrong.

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That is really fucked up.. Anyone know the details on how it actually came to be that Floyd sr let the guy into the ring with him? Also who slaps him around a bit at the end? Zelenoff is lucky if he made it out of there without really getting hurt, to try and sucker punch an old man like that is really cringeworthy even without already getting clowned by him. And just how terrible do you have to be to not only get outboxed badly by an old man like that, but actually get the worst of it when it comes to shoving? It's clear little Charlie actually wanted to beat him up by any means possible and just couldn't, wheras Floyd was probably having mercy on the little shit..

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The guy that slaps the shit out of Charlie is Mickey Bey. I messaged Jeff Mayweather and asked him a while back when I first saw the video.

Here's his boxrec: Mickey Bey Jr - Boxer

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Originally Posted by J_C

I thought it was quite tit for tat tbh. Zelenoff landed some decent stuff. Obv the sucker punch is complete BS tho thats an awful thing to do, you could get done for assault.

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Zelenoff landed nothing good. He threw hugely amateurish sloppy punches that didn't land. They usually missed, caught his arm, or caught his glove.

Zelenoff got his ass handed to him.

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Originally Posted by Mars_ax

I hate to admit it, but Floyd Sr. looked pretty good in there for a 61 year old man. I don't know who was more out of line at the end of the video, Zelenoff or the young punk who jumped in the ring, it's hard to tell.

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Why would the guy who slapped the shit out of Charlie been out of line? I don't understand your thought process behind that.