Chavez Jr. vs. Manfredo Jr chat/fight thread + the Pac-JMM III replay tonight on HBO

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Originally Posted by Mars_ax

I've got it Pacquiao 4-2 after 6.

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3-3 even up, just bumped other thread...booze kicking in :-X

pac 4-2 mar

Pac looked like he resorted to countering the counter puncher...rnd 8 was like trying to pass a stone!? Tough one to score

Pac looks like patchwork and choppy....Marquez plays counter waaay to much I think for a third go and last hoorah

Wow, round 9. Good schtuff! Honestly...I don't see a 'robbery' so far

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Pac looked like he resorted to countering the counter puncher...rnd 8 was like trying to pass a stone!? Tough one to score

Pac looks like patchwork and choppy....Marquez plays counter waaay to much I think for a third go and last hoorah

Wow, round 9. Good schtuff! Honestly...I don't see a 'robbery' so far

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Anyone who calls the fight a robbery is being hyperbolic. I thought Marquez won, but there were so many close rounds that it could have gone either way. Just like their other two fights.

I've got it Pacquiao up 6-4 after 10, he's the aggressor and busier.

i have it pac 5-4 mar after 9.

6-5 Marquez. Both guys left some big gaps to me

They know each other too well...I said prior I'd like 4th but changed mind on that.

Pacquiao 7-5, or a draw, I really can't see where Marquez won that fight.

pac 7-5 mar

I just see Pacquiao being effectively aggressive, landing more punches and being busier. Marquez had his moments, countered well at times, but he missed with a lot of his punches, and simply didn't do enough to win the fight.

7-5 Marquez, round 8 a coin flip to me :p Both guys waited around way to long...round 9 best. This was no robbery or conspiracy. For being a third go I'd expect one to explode and cave heads but not so much. It wasn't Leonard vs Duran 3 but it certainly wasn't Jmm vs Manny 1-2

Dear God Manfredo is one fuuugly fellow...gutty but that nose, wow :-X

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Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

pac 7-5 mar

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Ditto.. Pac wins 7-5, an 8-4 card doesn't however seem right.

I wonder how different Manfredo's life/career would have been if he wasn't robbed blind in the 2nd fight again Mora and then abandoned by Freddy Roach when he needed him most.

Julio looks looks about 18.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

7-5 Marquez, round 8 a coin flip to me :p Both guys waited around way to long...round 9 best. This was no robbery or conspiracy. For being a third go I'd expect one to explode and cave heads but not so much. It wasn't Leonard vs Duran 3 but it certainly wasn't Jmm vs Manny 1-2

Dear God Manfredo is one fuuugly fellow...gutty but that nose, wow :-X

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looks like you had it 6-5 going into the 12th... you couldn't have given marquez the 12 round he did nothing. surely you mean to type 6-6. a draw.

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Originally Posted by CFH

I wonder how different Manfredo's life/career would have been if he wasn't robbed blind in the 2nd fight again Mora and then abandoned by Freddy Roach when he needed him most.

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How Ironic that Roach is Julio's trainer now.

Just had a fantasy match...Julio C Chavez 'part deaux' vs Gerald McClellan.....:angryxo4: ;D

WAR MANFREDO...just sayin

1-0 Jr. Despite all the hate he gets, he's a pretty good fighter.

Manfredo is going to get dropped coming in, bank on it.

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Originally Posted by CFH

I wonder how different Manfredo's life/career would have been if he wasn't robbed blind in the 2nd fight again Mora and then abandoned by Freddy Roach when he needed him most.

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How Ironic that Roach is Julio's trainer now.

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Roach basically used Manfredo as a publicity stunt and then ditched him right before the Calzaghe fight. That's deplorable IMO.

2-0 Jr. I fucking love gin.

I'll get a ton of grief for this, but I think Chavez could give Martinez some trouble. Not sure he'd win, but he's solid technically, fast, and hits hard.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

7-5 Marquez, round 8 a coin flip to me :p Both guys waited around way to long...round 9 best. This was no robbery or conspiracy. For being a third go I'd expect one to explode and cave heads but not so much. It wasn't Leonard vs Duran 3 but it certainly wasn't Jmm vs Manny 1-2

Dear God Manfredo is one fuuugly fellow...gutty but that nose, wow :-X

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looks like you had it 6-5 going into the 12th... you couldn't have given Marquez the 12 round he did nothing. surely you mean to type 6-6. a draw.

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No. I'm shit at typing but yeh, I did. Ultimately I liked Marquez composure and countering though lacking explosiveness when it seemed to present itself off right hands. Manny also waited too often and I thought he looked horrible on his feet and not fluid with his hands. Both guys waited far too much

Julio Jr isn't a bad fighter, but he does get hit a lot, something a guy like Sergio Martinez would take advantage of.

Chavez needs to eat that body, rips em He still stands way to tall though and catches much leather

Those body-shots bothered Jr.

3-1 Jr. I gave Manfredo a round. :o

Jr. does not like it to the body.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

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7-5 Marquez, round 8 a coin flip to me :p Both guys waited around way to long...round 9 best. This was no robbery or conspiracy. For being a third go I'd expect one to explode and cave heads but not so much. It wasn't Leonard vs Duran 3 but it certainly wasn't Jmm vs Manny 1-2

Dear God Manfredo is one fuuugly fellow...gutty but that nose, wow :-X

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looks like you had it 6-5 going into the 12th... you couldn't have given Marquez the 12 round he did nothing. surely you mean to type 6-6. a draw.

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No. I'm shit at typing but yeh, I did. Ultimately I liked Marquez composure and countering though lacking explosiveness when it seemed to present itself off right hands. Manny also waited too often and I thought he looked horrible on his feet and not fluid with his hands. Both guys waited far too much

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but marquez did nothing in the 12th. you can't possibly have given him the round.

Is Lawrence Cole the ref? Fuck that guy.

Take a knee son

oops to late. Manfredo was a fat kid on roller skates for a second and fell apart

That stoppage was as bad as the Calzaghe one. Lawrence Cole is a fucking joke.

Disregarding what just happened, how does Cole still get to ref big fights?

montiel fight just started. he ain't lookin too good.

Just when the fight was starting to get interesting. :mad:
Chavez is overrated.











And so is his son. ;D

I'm officially a Chavez Jr. fan. I like this kid

Chavez - Alvarez would be great.

I stand by what I said, that was a bad stoppage.

Heres an idea...how about facing your mandatory

Didn't notice at first how much Manfredo was actually hugging Cole back ???

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Originally Posted by CFH

That stoppage was as bad as the Calzaghe one. Lawrence Cole is a fucking joke.

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Yes, it was a quick stoppage no doubt.

I gotta hand it to Chavez Jr. for outboxing Manfredo. I didn't think he could box like that.

That said I still don't like Chavez Jr., maybe a lil more than red headed fuck Alvarez tho.

He is improving.

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Originally Posted by CFH

That stoppage was as bad as the Calzaghe one. Lawrence Cole is a fucking joke.

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Yes, it was a quick stoppage no doubt.

I gotta hand it to Chavez Jr. for outboxing Manfredo. I didn't think he could box like that.

That said I still don't like Chavez Jr., maybe a lil more than red headed fuck Alvarez tho.

He is improving.

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He was boxing well, but as soon as he got hit to the body he slowed down in a hurry. I don't know if he could have kept it up all night. Manfredo had won the last round (IMO) and was looking pretty good in round 5 until he got caught.

Julio Jr, looked good finishing off Manfredo, which was probably a good thing since Manfredo wasn't going to win a decision.

I'm glad I got a chance to see Pac-JMM III, all i've got to say is: I totally disagree that Marquez either dominated, was robbed, or even won the fight, but that's just me, everyone has a right to their own opinion. :reporter:

G-night folks