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Re: My motha fuckin man Floyd!!!
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Originally Posted by
#1FightFan
pacman don't jump through the hoops for no one, especially a woman beating spoiled thug.
Just Bob Arum...
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Originally Posted by
#1FightFan
im sure there are ridiculous demands from floyd, that are NOT mentioned on the tweet.
what this time? manny has to take a test that no boxing organization on the planet makes you do??? lol. yeah right floyd.
No other body? Ever heard of Olympic Boxing? Can the best P4P fighter in the history of all creatures in existance (blessed be thy name) honestly not cope with doing the same test that unpaid, amature boxers take?
You're only 'sure there will be ridiculous demands' because of your clearly dislike of Floyd as a person.... No substance.... just hate and your imagination, if you want proof look no further than arum flip flopping over fight dates and manny flip flopping over excuses why he can't give some blood.
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Originally Posted by
#1FightFan
pressure and heart CAN beat skill, and manny has both. Waaaaay more than gayweather ever had!! talk about a snoozer of a fighter.
all manny has to do is watch Castillo/mayweather 1, and study how floyd lost.
and yes, floyd did lose that fight!!!
constant pressure from manny will beat the running/backpeddaling gayweather!!!
unlike lame-ass mosely, manny will be unleashing bombs all night
YEAH! It worked so well for Ricky hatton... why not? :rolleyes"
All Floyd has to do is watch tapes of VARIOUS the times that Manny has been stopped/beaten... not just in the eyes of fans but OFFICIALS too.
tbh I don't know why I'm taking you at all seriously... you honestly think that Floyd is the same fighter that he was YEARS ago in the first Castilllo fight? he hasn't developed at all? Sweet... makes me want to ruffle your hair and send you him to your mum.
"All Floyd has to do is watch Manny-Marquez 3 (arguably the other 2 as well) and see how Manny lost that fight and yes,Manny lost that fight!!!"
We saw that counter punching, a mastery of range and angles and the confidence not to just shell up more than solve the Manny riddle.
Floyd will be countering and picking Manny off all night.... stopping him late. Mark my words.
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Arum wants Floyd to pay more money to get his date pushed back again to get the fight done June 9.
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Originally Posted by
AdamGB
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Originally Posted by
#1FightFan
pacman don't jump through the hoops for no one, especially a woman beating spoiled thug.
Just Bob Arum...
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Originally Posted by
#1FightFan
im sure there are ridiculous demands from floyd, that are NOT mentioned on the tweet.
what this time? manny has to take a test that no boxing organization on the planet makes you do??? lol. yeah right floyd.
No other body? Ever heard of Olympic Boxing? Can the best P4P fighter in the history of all creatures in existance (blessed be thy name) honestly not cope with doing the same test that unpaid, amature boxers take?
You're only 'sure there will be ridiculous demands' because of your clearly dislike of Floyd as a person.... No substance.... just hate and your imagination, if you want proof look no further than arum flip flopping over fight dates and manny flip flopping over excuses why he can't give some blood.
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Originally Posted by
#1FightFan
pressure and heart CAN beat skill, and manny has both. Waaaaay more than gayweather ever had!! talk about a snoozer of a fighter.
all manny has to do is watch Castillo/mayweather 1, and study how floyd lost.
and yes, floyd did lose that fight!!!
constant pressure from manny will beat the running/backpeddaling gayweather!!!
unlike lame-ass mosely, manny will be unleashing bombs all night
YEAH! It worked so well for Ricky hatton... why not? :rolleyes"
All Floyd has to do is watch tapes of VARIOUS the times that Manny has been stopped/beaten... not just in the eyes of fans but OFFICIALS too.
tbh I don't know why I'm taking you at all seriously... you honestly think that Floyd is the same fighter that he was YEARS ago in the first Castilllo fight? he hasn't developed at all? Sweet... makes me want to ruffle your hair and send you him to your mum.
"All Floyd has to do is watch Manny-Marquez 3 (arguably the other 2 as well) and see how Manny lost that fight and yes,Manny lost that fight!!!"
We saw that counter punching, a mastery of range and angles and the confidence not to just shell up more than solve the Manny riddle.
Floyd will be countering and picking Manny off all night.... stopping him late. Mark my words.
You actually respond to #1fightfan? I just always assumed he was some fake troll/robot account pre-loaded with random, incoherent Floyd-hate posts set to randomly spam the forum
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Re: My motha f**kin man Floyd!!!
Smoke and mirrors people. Smoke and mirrors. :vd:
Of course he's going to call out Pac now, he is currently in negotiations with Guerrero & Canelo, and he also knows that it doesn't make econonmic sense to fight Manny in an 18,000 seat arena, when he can make 5 times more as a fighter and co-promoter with the fight in a larger stadium. He knows in order for him to get the money he wants they have to go to a larger stadium, so he knows that deal will not be able to be reached for May 5th at the MGM.
He's hoping that no one will complain when he fights Guerrero. I can hear it now "well I called out that punk Pac, and the bitch wouldn't fight me". :rolleyes:
Floyd ain't stupid, but he thinks that boxing fans are.
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Re: My motha f**kin man Floyd!!!
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Originally Posted by
Diane
he also knows that it doesn't make econonmic sense to fight Manny in an 18,000 seat arena, when he can make 5 times more as a fighter and co-promoter with the fight in a larger stadium.
This is Arum's line. The huge bulk of the money will come from PPV sales, not gate sales. Seating 3x as many people at the live show will not somehow equal 5x as much money total. It may be a 10% bump, which is not nothing, but come on.
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Re: Mayweather calls pac out again.
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Don't want to be a spoilsport here, but...... where was all this bravado a couple of years back?
Why now..... all of a sudden, it's "step up punk"?
Just wondering.
Personally I think Mayweather is going to announce his retirement and I really think he wanted to go out at the very top by beating the only person left that he will get real credit for whooping.
Just my thoughts!
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Re: My motha f**kin man Floyd!!!
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Originally Posted by
PaulG
The reason Arum doesn't want he fight in May is he knows Pacquiao will lose and his career will be over - he wants to milk his cash cow one last time before then.
I've said it for the last 3 years, Pacquiao is made for Floyd and is going to get schooled in this fight.
Step up punk.
I totally agree with this post.
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Re: My motha f**kin man Floyd!!!
More noise from Floyds twitter, pretty badass (apart from the pink jumper)...
Floyd Mayweather's Photo | Lockerz
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Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu
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Originally Posted by
PaulG
The reason Arum doesn't want he fight in May is he knows Pacquiao will lose and his career will be over - he wants to milk his cash cow one last time before then.
I've said it for the last 3 years, Pacquiao is made for Floyd and is going to get schooled in this fight.
Step up punk.
I totally agree with this post.
+ 1
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Re: My motha f**kin man Floyd!!!
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Originally Posted by
imp
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Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu
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Originally Posted by
PaulG
The reason Arum doesn't want he fight in May is he knows Pacquiao will lose and his career will be over - he wants to milk his cash cow one last time before then.
I've said it for the last 3 years, Pacquiao is made for Floyd and is going to get schooled in this fight.
Step up punk.
I totally agree with this post.
+ 1
indeed!
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Re: My motha f**kin man Floyd!!!
Seems like both fighters want it and Arum doesn't.
I don't see why people hate on both fighters, calling them scared and what not. You're sat behind a screen typing away on a forum and calling 2 of the best fighters in the world scared and cowardly. Stop being so damn negative and cheer up.
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Re: My motha f**kin man Floyd!!!
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Re: My motha f**kin man Floyd!!!
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Originally Posted by
Manos de Piedra
Seems like both fighters want it and Arum doesn't.
I don't see why people hate on both fighters, calling them scared and what not. You're sat behind a screen typing away on a forum and calling 2 of the best fighters in the world scared and cowardly. Stop being so damn negative and cheer up.
I've always had a big problem with people calling boxers cowards. This is one of the most brutal sports and at the top I seriously doubt any top guy is scared of another. Sometimes fights aren't made for various reasons, and it is what it is.
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Re: My motha f**kin man Floyd!!!
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
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Originally Posted by
Manos de Piedra
Seems like both fighters want it and Arum doesn't.
I don't see why people hate on both fighters, calling them scared and what not. You're sat behind a screen typing away on a forum and calling 2 of the best fighters in the world scared and cowardly. Stop being so damn negative and cheer up.
I've always had a big problem with people calling boxers cowards. This is one of the most brutal sports and at the top I seriously doubt any top guy is scared of another. Sometimes fights aren't made for various reasons, and it is what it is.
Agree 100%
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Re: Mayweather calls pac out again.
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Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Don't want to be a spoilsport here, but...... where was all this bravado a couple of years back?
Why now..... all of a sudden, it's "step up punk"?
Just wondering.
Personally I think Mayweather is going to announce his retirement and I really think he wanted to go out at the very top by beating the only person left that he will get real credit for whooping.
Just my thoughts!
Why NOW, though? Why not a couple of years back? He's not mentioning any conditions now, is he. It's "step up, punk." Fight NOW, on MY timetable, before I have to go off to jail.
He could've "beat the only person left that he will get real credit for whooping" a long time ago. Why didn't he? Why so many conditions? Where are the conditions NOW? Why does he go into "retirement" in his PRIME, while all other top fighters keep busy doing what they do for a living..... fight.
Like Diane said in an earlier post.... Floyd isn't stupid. But he sure thinks boxing fans are. Gotta be the only explanation.
I'm not saying he would, or he wouldn't beat Pac. I'm saying he has spent the better part of his prime acting like a spoiled brat, instead of giving fight fans what they crave.... the best against the best. Why don't we feel the need to have these conversations about all the other top fighters? Answer: Because all the other top fighters just FIGHT. They don't go prancing around like prima donnas, thinking they're bigger than the sport.
You gotta be starved for heroes, when you latch onto somebody like Pretty Boy Floyd.
;)
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Re: My motha f**kin man Floyd!!!
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Originally Posted by
jabvargas24
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
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Originally Posted by
Manos de Piedra
Seems like both fighters want it and Arum doesn't.
I don't see why people hate on both fighters, calling them scared and what not. You're sat behind a screen typing away on a forum and calling 2 of the best fighters in the world scared and cowardly. Stop being so damn negative and cheer up.
I've always had a big problem with people calling boxers cowards. This is one of the most brutal sports and at the top I seriously doubt any top guy is scared of another. Sometimes fights aren't made for various reasons, and it is what it is.
Agree 100%
It seems to be a problem perpetuated by Promoters, coaches and Boxers themselves in that they are hardly paragons of virtue themselves, dissing each other's teams and calling into question the integrity and credibility of those in the opposing camp. It is then hardly surprising that the fans follow suit. It doesn't excuse it, because if any boxer were really a coward he would not have got to a point in his career where people on internet forums knew who he was. It is also hard not to be negative when a fight which a year or two ago could have injected a real shot of life into the arm of boxing, by dragging in Joe Public, has been allowed to become a drawn out debacle, out of which nobody is coming out smelling of roses.
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Re: Mayweather calls pac out again.
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Don't want to be a spoilsport here, but...... where was all this bravado a couple of years back?
Why now..... all of a sudden, it's "step up punk"?
Just wondering.
Personally I think Mayweather is going to announce his retirement and I really think he wanted to go out at the very top by beating the only person left that he will get real credit for whooping.
Just my thoughts!
Why
NOW, though? Why not a couple of years back? He's not mentioning any conditions now, is he. It's "step up, punk." Fight
NOW, on
MY timetable, before I have to go off to jail.
He could've
"beat the only person left that he will get real credit for whooping" a long time ago. Why didn't he? Why so many conditions? Where are the conditions NOW? Why does he go into "retirement" in his PRIME, while all other top fighters keep busy doing what they do for a living.....
fight.
Like Diane said in an earlier post.... Floyd isn't stupid. But he sure thinks boxing fans are. Gotta be the only explanation.
I'm not saying he would, or he wouldn't beat Pac. I'm saying he has spent the better part of his prime acting like a spoiled brat, instead of giving fight fans what they crave.... the best against the best. Why don't we feel the need to have these conversations about all the other top fighters?
Answer: Because all the other top fighters just FIGHT. They don't go prancing around like prima donnas, thinking they're bigger than the sport.
You gotta be starved for heroes, when you latch onto somebody like Pretty Boy Floyd.
;)
Maybe he is running into big Money issues right now with all the legal stuff going on with him at the moment. The only fight that would make him a lot of money at the moment would be Pac?
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Re: My motha f**kin man Floyd!!!
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Originally Posted by
ruthless rocco
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Originally Posted by
imp
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Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu
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Originally Posted by
PaulG
The reason Arum doesn't want he fight in May is he knows Pacquiao will lose and his career will be over - he wants to milk his cash cow one last time before then.
I've said it for the last 3 years, Pacquiao is made for Floyd and is going to get schooled in this fight.
Step up punk.
I totally agree with this post.
+ 1
indeed!
Yup
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Re: Mayweather calls pac out again.
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Originally Posted by
Maravilla2012
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Don't want to be a spoilsport here, but...... where was all this bravado a couple of years back?
Why now..... all of a sudden, it's "step up punk"?
Just wondering.
Personally I think Mayweather is going to announce his retirement and I really think he wanted to go out at the very top by beating the only person left that he will get real credit for whooping.
Just my thoughts!
Why
NOW, though? Why not a couple of years back? He's not mentioning any conditions now, is he. It's "step up, punk." Fight
NOW, on
MY timetable, before I have to go off to jail.
He could've
"beat the only person left that he will get real credit for whooping" a long time ago. Why didn't he? Why so many conditions? Where are the conditions NOW? Why does he go into "retirement" in his PRIME, while all other top fighters keep busy doing what they do for a living.....
fight.
Like Diane said in an earlier post.... Floyd isn't stupid. But he sure thinks boxing fans are. Gotta be the only explanation.
I'm not saying he would, or he wouldn't beat Pac. I'm saying he has spent the better part of his prime acting like a spoiled brat, instead of giving fight fans what they crave.... the best against the best. Why don't we feel the need to have these conversations about all the other top fighters?
Answer: Because all the other top fighters just FIGHT. They don't go prancing around like prima donnas, thinking they're bigger than the sport.
You gotta be starved for heroes, when you latch onto somebody like Pretty Boy Floyd.
;)
Maybe he is running into big Money issues right now with all the legal stuff going on with him at the moment. The only fight that would make him a lot of money at the moment would be Pac?
The guy's a fukking loser. Wants Pac to jump through hoops now, like someone else very accurately said. Fukk him. Pac doesn't need his prima donna ass.
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Re: Mayweather calls pac out again.
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Maravilla2012
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Don't want to be a spoilsport here, but...... where was all this bravado a couple of years back?
Why now..... all of a sudden, it's "step up punk"?
Just wondering.
Personally I think Mayweather is going to announce his retirement and I really think he wanted to go out at the very top by beating the only person left that he will get real credit for whooping.
Just my thoughts!
Why
NOW, though? Why not a couple of years back? He's not mentioning any conditions now, is he. It's "step up, punk." Fight
NOW, on
MY timetable, before I have to go off to jail.
He could've
"beat the only person left that he will get real credit for whooping" a long time ago. Why didn't he? Why so many conditions? Where are the conditions NOW? Why does he go into "retirement" in his PRIME, while all other top fighters keep busy doing what they do for a living.....
fight.
Like Diane said in an earlier post.... Floyd isn't stupid. But he sure thinks boxing fans are. Gotta be the only explanation.
I'm not saying he would, or he wouldn't beat Pac. I'm saying he has spent the better part of his prime acting like a spoiled brat, instead of giving fight fans what they crave.... the best against the best. Why don't we feel the need to have these conversations about all the other top fighters?
Answer: Because all the other top fighters just FIGHT. They don't go prancing around like prima donnas, thinking they're bigger than the sport.
You gotta be starved for heroes, when you latch onto somebody like Pretty Boy Floyd.
;)
Maybe he is running into big Money issues right now with all the legal stuff going on with him at the moment. The only fight that would make him a lot of money at the moment would be Pac?
The guy's a fukking loser. Wants Pac to jump through hoops now, like someone else very accurately said. Fukk him. Pac doesn't need his prima donna ass.
Pacquiao doesn't fall too far from Prima Donna status either, and Floyd doesn't really need Manny's ass to sell tickets as shown in every PPV he's headlined, both guys are to blame for this fight not coming off, as of right now Floyd is calling out Pacquiao and making all the noise for the fight to be made, Arum and Manny are running from questions that have to do with the fight and only give bullshit excuses not to make the fight happen, I don't give a fuck why Mayweather is calling out Manny now all I know is that he's finally doing it, Manny was plenty vocal of wanting the fight and that he would take the fight on a minute's notice, so what the hell is the problem, make the fucking fight for May and stop the damn drama
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Re: Mayweather calls pac out again.
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Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Maravilla2012
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Don't want to be a spoilsport here, but...... where was all this bravado a couple of years back?
Why now..... all of a sudden, it's "step up punk"?
Just wondering.
Personally I think Mayweather is going to announce his retirement and I really think he wanted to go out at the very top by beating the only person left that he will get real credit for whooping.
Just my thoughts!
Why
NOW, though? Why not a couple of years back? He's not mentioning any conditions now, is he. It's "step up, punk." Fight
NOW, on
MY timetable, before I have to go off to jail.
He could've
"beat the only person left that he will get real credit for whooping" a long time ago. Why didn't he? Why so many conditions? Where are the conditions NOW? Why does he go into "retirement" in his PRIME, while all other top fighters keep busy doing what they do for a living.....
fight.
Like Diane said in an earlier post.... Floyd isn't stupid. But he sure thinks boxing fans are. Gotta be the only explanation.
I'm not saying he would, or he wouldn't beat Pac. I'm saying he has spent the better part of his prime acting like a spoiled brat, instead of giving fight fans what they crave.... the best against the best. Why don't we feel the need to have these conversations about all the other top fighters?
Answer: Because all the other top fighters just FIGHT. They don't go prancing around like prima donnas, thinking they're bigger than the sport.
You gotta be starved for heroes, when you latch onto somebody like Pretty Boy Floyd.
;)
Maybe he is running into big Money issues right now with all the legal stuff going on with him at the moment. The only fight that would make him a lot of money at the moment would be Pac?
The guy's a fukking loser. Wants Pac to jump through hoops now, like someone else very accurately said. Fukk him. Pac doesn't need his prima donna ass.
Pacquiao doesn't fall too far from Prima Donna status either, and Floyd doesn't really need Manny's ass to sell tickets as shown in every PPV he's headlined, both guys are to blame for this fight not coming off, as of right now Floyd is calling out Pacquiao and making all the noise for the fight to be made, Arum and Manny are running from questions that have to do with the fight and only give bullshit excuses not to make the fight happen, I don't give a fuck why Mayweather is calling out Manny now all I know is that he's finally doing it, Manny was plenty vocal of wanting the fight and that he would take the fight on a minute's notice, so what the hell is the problem, make the fucking fight for May and stop the damn drama
C'mon you know this isn't badminton... it's boxing. Fight me now before I get my ass hauled off to jail just doesn't cut it in boxing. There's a reason fights take a lot of preparation and training. This isn't a gradeschool "meet me outside" fight. This is Floyd expecting Manny to all of a sudden drop everything and rush to fight him under Floyd's timetable. Manny has always been available.... AND.... he's always kept himself busy. Floyd, on the other hand, fights when it suits him. When it doesn't, he goes prancing off.... getting himself into all kinds of trouble and imposing bullshit "retirements" on the fans. Floyd's fans (all 200 of them) will forgive Floyd for whatever he does, and make excuses for the guy left and right. Fan or not, I'd give money to see a diehard Floyd ONLY ONCE come out and say he's tired of Floyd's bullshit. But it's never going to happen. Must've been some brainwashing job.
;)
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Re: Mayweather calls pac out again.
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Maravilla2012
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Don't want to be a spoilsport here, but...... where was all this bravado a couple of years back?
Why now..... all of a sudden, it's "step up punk"?
Just wondering.
Personally I think Mayweather is going to announce his retirement and I really think he wanted to go out at the very top by beating the only person left that he will get real credit for whooping.
Just my thoughts!
Why
NOW, though? Why not a couple of years back? He's not mentioning any conditions now, is he. It's "step up, punk." Fight
NOW, on
MY timetable, before I have to go off to jail.
He could've
"beat the only person left that he will get real credit for whooping" a long time ago. Why didn't he? Why so many conditions? Where are the conditions NOW? Why does he go into "retirement" in his PRIME, while all other top fighters keep busy doing what they do for a living.....
fight.
Like Diane said in an earlier post.... Floyd isn't stupid. But he sure thinks boxing fans are. Gotta be the only explanation.
I'm not saying he would, or he wouldn't beat Pac. I'm saying he has spent the better part of his prime acting like a spoiled brat, instead of giving fight fans what they crave.... the best against the best. Why don't we feel the need to have these conversations about all the other top fighters?
Answer: Because all the other top fighters just FIGHT. They don't go prancing around like prima donnas, thinking they're bigger than the sport.
You gotta be starved for heroes, when you latch onto somebody like Pretty Boy Floyd.
;)
Maybe he is running into big Money issues right now with all the legal stuff going on with him at the moment. The only fight that would make him a lot of money at the moment would be Pac?
The guy's a fukking loser. Wants Pac to jump through hoops now, like someone else very accurately said. Fukk him. Pac doesn't need his prima donna ass.
Pacquiao doesn't fall too far from Prima Donna status either, and Floyd doesn't really need Manny's ass to sell tickets as shown in every PPV he's headlined, both guys are to blame for this fight not coming off, as of right now Floyd is calling out Pacquiao and making all the noise for the fight to be made, Arum and Manny are running from questions that have to do with the fight and only give bullshit excuses not to make the fight happen, I don't give a fuck why Mayweather is calling out Manny now all I know is that he's finally doing it, Manny was plenty vocal of wanting the fight and that he would take the fight on a minute's notice, so what the hell is the problem, make the fucking fight for May and stop the damn drama
C'mon you know this isn't badminton... it's boxing. Fight me now before I get my ass hauled off to jail just doesn't cut it in boxing. There's a reason fights take a lot of preparation and training. This isn't a gradeschool "meet me outside" fight. This is Floyd expecting Manny to all of a sudden drop everything and rush to fight him under Floyd's timetable. Manny has always been available.... AND.... he's always kept himself busy. Floyd, on the other hand, fights when it suits him. When it doesn't, he goes prancing off.... getting himself into all kinds of trouble and imposing bullshit "retirements" on the fans. Floyd's fans (all 200 of them) will forgive Floyd for whatever he does, and make excuses for the guy left and right. Fan or not, I'd give money to see a diehard Floyd ONLY ONCE come out and say he's tired of Floyd's bullshit. But it's never going to happen. Must've been some brainwashing job.
;)
May is FOUR MONTHS AWAY, not tomorrow. Moreover, Arum was all about "Manny will fight next in May or June, so he can't wait for Mayweather to get out of jail" -- until the jail sentence got pushed; at which point the new story was, "well Manny can't possibly fight in early May because he got a cut in November. And I'd need to build a stadium."
I'm with ElTerrible. I can't stand Floyd but he is making noise now and asking for the fight and there's no legitimate reason for it not to happen.
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Re: My motha f**kin man Floyd!!!
"Uto-uto"... this is the word! I've no direct translation, except maybe gullible, but more fittingly in this context is, "bullcrap's buyer ", "manure vendors"... or "excrete facilitators"... one can go on and on.
This is the worst case scenario that we can be as fight fans... it gives these pretenders, supposedly or boastfully GOAT claimants' so many outs that they do not need.
If the sport of boxing is to remain true to the established tennets for integrity... the best against the best, then, this is what it should strive for at all times. In its quest to be represented by the ultimate champion, there is no other, no better blueprint.
Mediocrity plagues the sport as of late, and we can put "uto-uto" type fanatacism equally guilty together with the pretenders who've successfully peddled smoke and mirrors as the source that has plagued this sport.
Stop buying crap... to somehow stop these DUCKINGs for this may force the the hand of these claimants to finally let their SKILL speak louder than their TWEETS! For a change.
Talk is cheap, sign and FIGHT!
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Re: Mayweather calls pac out again.
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Originally Posted by
shza
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Maravilla2012
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Don't want to be a spoilsport here, but...... where was all this bravado a couple of years back?
Why now..... all of a sudden, it's "step up punk"?
Just wondering.
Personally I think Mayweather is going to announce his retirement and I really think he wanted to go out at the very top by beating the only person left that he will get real credit for whooping.
Just my thoughts!
Why
NOW, though? Why not a couple of years back? He's not mentioning any conditions now, is he. It's "step up, punk." Fight
NOW, on
MY timetable, before I have to go off to jail.
He could've
"beat the only person left that he will get real credit for whooping" a long time ago. Why didn't he? Why so many conditions? Where are the conditions NOW? Why does he go into "retirement" in his PRIME, while all other top fighters keep busy doing what they do for a living.....
fight.
Like Diane said in an earlier post.... Floyd isn't stupid. But he sure thinks boxing fans are. Gotta be the only explanation.
I'm not saying he would, or he wouldn't beat Pac. I'm saying he has spent the better part of his prime acting like a spoiled brat, instead of giving fight fans what they crave.... the best against the best. Why don't we feel the need to have these conversations about all the other top fighters?
Answer: Because all the other top fighters just FIGHT. They don't go prancing around like prima donnas, thinking they're bigger than the sport.
You gotta be starved for heroes, when you latch onto somebody like Pretty Boy Floyd.
;)
Maybe he is running into big Money issues right now with all the legal stuff going on with him at the moment. The only fight that would make him a lot of money at the moment would be Pac?
The guy's a fukking loser. Wants Pac to jump through hoops now, like someone else very accurately said. Fukk him. Pac doesn't need his prima donna ass.
Pacquiao doesn't fall too far from Prima Donna status either, and Floyd doesn't really need Manny's ass to sell tickets as shown in every PPV he's headlined, both guys are to blame for this fight not coming off, as of right now Floyd is calling out Pacquiao and making all the noise for the fight to be made, Arum and Manny are running from questions that have to do with the fight and only give bullshit excuses not to make the fight happen, I don't give a fuck why Mayweather is calling out Manny now all I know is that he's finally doing it, Manny was plenty vocal of wanting the fight and that he would take the fight on a minute's notice, so what the hell is the problem, make the fucking fight for May and stop the damn drama
C'mon you know this isn't badminton... it's boxing. Fight me now before I get my ass hauled off to jail just doesn't cut it in boxing. There's a reason fights take a lot of preparation and training. This isn't a gradeschool "meet me outside" fight. This is Floyd expecting Manny to all of a sudden drop everything and rush to fight him under Floyd's timetable. Manny has always been available.... AND.... he's always kept himself busy. Floyd, on the other hand, fights when it suits him. When it doesn't, he goes prancing off.... getting himself into all kinds of trouble and imposing bullshit "retirements" on the fans. Floyd's fans (all 200 of them) will forgive Floyd for whatever he does, and make excuses for the guy left and right. Fan or not, I'd give money to see a diehard Floyd ONLY ONCE come out and say he's tired of Floyd's bullshit. But it's never going to happen. Must've been some brainwashing job.
;)
May is FOUR MONTHS AWAY, not tomorrow. Moreover, Arum was all about "Manny will fight next in May or June, so he can't wait for Mayweather to get out of jail" -- until the jail sentence got pushed; at which point the new story was, "well Manny can't possibly fight in early May because he got a cut in November. And I'd need to build a stadium."
I'm with ElTerrible. I can't stand Floyd but he is making noise now and asking for the fight and there's no legitimate reason for it not to happen.
And Floyd will probably spark Manny's ass if it DOES happen. I'm not arguing against Floyd's skillset, or even the fact that he's probably all wrong for Manny. What I AM arguing is that Floyd gets cut too much slack. He comes and goes as he pleases, and everyone gives him a free pass. Everybody's quick to forget that it was his own self-imposed exile which probably kept a LOT of good fights from happening. Once he came back, and Manny was widely considered # 1...... THAT was the time for him to say: "Step up punk." But he didn't. And all the hand-wringing in the world isn't going to undo that. He left boxing dangling at the end of his string. And NOW that the fight is a couple of years too late, and Manny had such an un-inspiring performance against JMM....... NOW Floyd is finally calling Pacquiao out.
So if they finally do meet and Floyd crushes Manny.... don't bunch me with the group that is guaranteeing a Manny win. One thing has nothing to do with the other. I WISH Manny would win... but I wouldn't bet the house on it.
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Geez the haters are out in full force as usual.
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Re: My motha f**kin man Floyd!!!
Just wondering. What/why the fuck took him so long to call out Pac?
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Re: My motha f**kin man Floyd!!!
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"Uto-uto"... this is the word! I've no direct translation, except maybe gullible, but more fittingly in this context is, "bullcrap's buyer ", "manure vendors"... or "excrete facilitators"... one can go on and on.
This is the worst case scenario that we can be as fight fans... it gives these pretenders, supposedly or boastfully GOAT claimants' so many outs that they do not need.
If the sport of boxing is to remain true to the established tennets for integrity... the best against the best, then, this is what it should strive for at all times. In its quest to be represented by the ultimate champion, there is no other, no better blueprint.
Mediocrity plagues the sport as of late, and we can put "uto-uto" type fanatacism equally guilty together with the pretenders who've successfully peddled smoke and mirrors as the source that has plagued this sport.
Stop buying crap... to somehow stop these DUCKINGs for this may force the the hand of these claimants to finally let their SKILL speak louder than their TWEETS! For a change.
Talk is cheap, sign and FIGHT!
wtf is this?
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Re: Mayweather calls pac out again.
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TitoFan
Don't want to be a spoilsport here, but...... where was all this bravado a couple of years back?
Why now..... all of a sudden, it's "step up punk"?
Just wondering.
Personally I think Mayweather is going to announce his retirement and I really think he wanted to go out at the very top by beating the only person left that he will get real credit for whooping.
Just my thoughts!
Why
NOW, though? Why not a couple of years back? He's not mentioning any conditions now, is he. It's "step up, punk." Fight
NOW, on
MY timetable, before I have to go off to jail.
He could've
"beat the only person left that he will get real credit for whooping" a long time ago. Why didn't he? Why so many conditions? Where are the conditions NOW? Why does he go into "retirement" in his PRIME, while all other top fighters keep busy doing what they do for a living.....
fight.
Like Diane said in an earlier post.... Floyd isn't stupid. But he sure thinks boxing fans are. Gotta be the only explanation.
I'm not saying he would, or he wouldn't beat Pac. I'm saying he has spent the better part of his prime acting like a spoiled brat, instead of giving fight fans what they crave.... the best against the best. Why don't we feel the need to have these conversations about all the other top fighters?
Answer: Because all the other top fighters just FIGHT. They don't go prancing around like prima donnas, thinking they're bigger than the sport.
You gotta be starved for heroes, when you latch onto somebody like Pretty Boy Floyd.
;)
I don't know I'm not Floyd but retiring in his prime?? Really? I've followed boxing a long time and I'm yet to come across a Welterweight in his prime at 35. Floyd is no longer in his prime but he will still MASSACRE Pac. It's that simple, he's just far too good and hopefully Pac will step up so he can prove it.
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Re: My motha fuckin man Floyd!!!
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Yeah!... let's get this over with! The sooner Pac calls this, the sooner this mega fight gets done. Posturing, hype, or bluff... please none of the above. Li'l Floyd, Pac just SIGN!
Its not a super fight any more. Pac was at his best three fights ago and now he is a shadow of his former self. I blame the fame and all the congressman bulls+it. Floyd has seen he is passed his best and suddenly grows a pair.
LOL I love how hes a shadow of his former self just coz he fought a tough guy in margarito and a guy who gave him fits in 2 other fights in Marquez...how bout he isnt a shadow at all, he started fighting guys who wanted to fight him...actually fight him and not run away from him the whole fight. ;)
Can you not see it in the way he fights now. You watch him about three or four fights ago. Hes always on his toes constantly with quick in and out punching. The way he fought Margo was deffinitly not him. He should have hardly been touched by Margo but was getting hit often. Not the same guy as before.
Watch his last six fights in a row and tell me you do not see him slowing.
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Re: Mayweather calls pac out again.
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Don't want to be a spoilsport here, but...... where was all this bravado a couple of years back?
Why now..... all of a sudden, it's "step up punk"?
Just wondering.
Personally I think Mayweather is going to announce his retirement and I really think he wanted to go out at the very top by beating the only person left that he will get real credit for whooping.
Just my thoughts!
Why
NOW, though? Why not a couple of years back? He's not mentioning any conditions now, is he. It's "step up, punk." Fight
NOW, on
MY timetable, before I have to go off to jail.
He could've
"beat the only person left that he will get real credit for whooping" a long time ago. Why didn't he? Why so many conditions? Where are the conditions NOW? Why does he go into "retirement" in his PRIME, while all other top fighters keep busy doing what they do for a living.....
fight.
Like Diane said in an earlier post.... Floyd isn't stupid. But he sure thinks boxing fans are. Gotta be the only explanation.
I'm not saying he would, or he wouldn't beat Pac. I'm saying he has spent the better part of his prime acting like a spoiled brat, instead of giving fight fans what they crave.... the best against the best. Why don't we feel the need to have these conversations about all the other top fighters?
Answer: Because all the other top fighters just FIGHT. They don't go prancing around like prima donnas, thinking they're bigger than the sport.
You gotta be starved for heroes, when you latch onto somebody like Pretty Boy Floyd.
;)
WELL SAID!!! and exactly how i feel.
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TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Don't want to be a spoilsport here, but...... where was all this bravado a couple of top by beating the only person left that he will get real credit for whooping.
Just my thoughts!
Why
NOW, though? Why not a couple of years back? He's not mentioning any conditions now, is he. It's "step up, punk." Fight
NOW, on
MY timetable, before I have to go off to jail.
He could've
"beat the only person left that he will get real credit for whooping" a long time ago. Why didn't he? Why so many conditions? Where are the conditions NOW? Why does he go into "retirement" in his PRIME, while all other top fighters keep busy doing what they do for a living.....
fight.
Like Diane said in an earlier post.... Floyd isn't stupid. But he sure thinks boxing fans are. Gotta be the only explanation.
I'm not saying he would, or he wouldn't beat Pac. I'm saying he has spent the better part of his prime acting like a spoiled brat, instead of giving fight fans what they crave.... the best against the best. Why don't we feel the need to have these conversations about all the other top fighters?
Answer: Because all the other top fighters just FIGHT. They don't go prancing around like prima donnas, thinking they're bigger than the sport.
You gotta be starved for heroes, when you latch onto somebody like Pretty Boy Floyd.
;)
Fan or not, I'd give money to see a diehard Floyd ONLY ONCE come out and say he's tired of Floyd's bullshit. But it's never going to happen. Must've been some brainwashing job.
;)
Wrong - You must have missed me calling him a bitch and unprofessional when he came in overweight against JMM...you must have missed me recently say that if the Guererro fight happens its a bullshit fight.
I just LOVE to call people out who say one thing and then the next week do a complete 180 because they simply hate the guy..like Miles saying he'd respect him for fighting Mosley..then as soon as the fight is over he was ovef the hill. I even remember reading a thread from Daxx Khan saying Baldomir was too much of a challenge, too big n too strong for Floyd that he would quote "steamroll" Floyd.
Then of course Baldomir is a blemish on Floyds legacy when he wins every round.
Lol it's funny to see..With Floyd hindsight is always 20-20..He fights, you pray he will lose or be in big trouble in a fight. He comes out unscathed and the hate escalates.
I will always call shit how I see it..simple as that. Some people don't. Im not referring to you TitoFan as I actually agree with a few of your points about Floyd. Like his "retirement" when boxing was hot. But realistically what fights could have been made with non-Arum fighters during that period that you lot woukd have been happy with?
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Hindsight is 20/20 for every fight and fighter. Excuses were made after Floyd beat someone up badly like say Mosley then it was said Mosley was old and past it but the same also holds true for every fighter. Just like Pac was called by many on this forum as a cherry picking coward when those same people were saying that his opponents at the time like Cotto and Hatton would beat him badly it was after the fact that Pac became a coward and cherry picker after demolishing those guys.
I'm a fan of many sports but boxing fans are the worst bullshitters imo always some lame ass excuse and not giving whoever they dislike props.
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Re: Mayweather calls pac out again.
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Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Don't want to be a spoilsport here, but...... where was all this bravado a couple of years back?
Why now..... all of a sudden, it's "step up punk"?
Just wondering.
Personally I think Mayweather is going to announce his retirement and I really think he wanted to go out at the very top by beating the only person left that he will get real credit for whooping.
Just my thoughts!
Why
NOW, though? Why not a couple of years back? He's not mentioning any conditions now, is he. It's "step up, punk." Fight
NOW, on
MY timetable, before I have to go off to jail.
He could've
"beat the only person left that he will get real credit for whooping" a long time ago. Why didn't he? Why so many conditions? Where are the conditions NOW? Why does he go into "retirement" in his PRIME, while all other top fighters keep busy doing what they do for a living.....
fight.
Like Diane said in an earlier post.... Floyd isn't stupid. But he sure thinks boxing fans are. Gotta be the only explanation.
I'm not saying he would, or he wouldn't beat Pac. I'm saying he has spent the better part of his prime acting like a spoiled brat, instead of giving fight fans what they crave.... the best against the best. Why don't we feel the need to have these conversations about all the other top fighters?
Answer: Because all the other top fighters just FIGHT. They don't go prancing around like prima donnas, thinking they're bigger than the sport.
You gotta be starved for heroes, when you latch onto somebody like Pretty Boy Floyd.
;)
I don't know I'm not Floyd but retiring in his prime?? Really? I've followed boxing a long time and I'm yet to come across a Welterweight in his prime at 35. Floyd is no longer in his prime but he will still MASSACRE Pac. It's that simple, he's just far too good and hopefully Pac will step up so he can prove it.
I believe the reference was to Floyd's "retirement" following the De la Hoya fight, taking himself out of the game for 2 years in what really was still his prime.
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Re: Mayweather calls pac out again.
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TitoFan
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shza
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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ElTerribleMorales
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Maravilla2012
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Don't want to be a spoilsport here, but...... where was all this bravado a couple of years back?
Why now..... all of a sudden, it's "step up punk"?
Just wondering.
Personally I think Mayweather is going to announce his retirement and I really think he wanted to go out at the very top by beating the only person left that he will get real credit for whooping.
Just my thoughts!
Why
NOW, though? Why not a couple of years back? He's not mentioning any conditions now, is he. It's "step up, punk." Fight
NOW, on
MY timetable, before I have to go off to jail.
He could've
"beat the only person left that he will get real credit for whooping" a long time ago. Why didn't he? Why so many conditions? Where are the conditions NOW? Why does he go into "retirement" in his PRIME, while all other top fighters keep busy doing what they do for a living.....
fight.
Like Diane said in an earlier post.... Floyd isn't stupid. But he sure thinks boxing fans are. Gotta be the only explanation.
I'm not saying he would, or he wouldn't beat Pac. I'm saying he has spent the better part of his prime acting like a spoiled brat, instead of giving fight fans what they crave.... the best against the best. Why don't we feel the need to have these conversations about all the other top fighters?
Answer: Because all the other top fighters just FIGHT. They don't go prancing around like prima donnas, thinking they're bigger than the sport.
You gotta be starved for heroes, when you latch onto somebody like Pretty Boy Floyd.
;)
Maybe he is running into big Money issues right now with all the legal stuff going on with him at the moment. The only fight that would make him a lot of money at the moment would be Pac?
The guy's a fukking loser. Wants Pac to jump through hoops now, like someone else very accurately said. Fukk him. Pac doesn't need his prima donna ass.
Pacquiao doesn't fall too far from Prima Donna status either, and Floyd doesn't really need Manny's ass to sell tickets as shown in every PPV he's headlined, both guys are to blame for this fight not coming off, as of right now Floyd is calling out Pacquiao and making all the noise for the fight to be made, Arum and Manny are running from questions that have to do with the fight and only give bullshit excuses not to make the fight happen, I don't give a fuck why Mayweather is calling out Manny now all I know is that he's finally doing it, Manny was plenty vocal of wanting the fight and that he would take the fight on a minute's notice, so what the hell is the problem, make the fucking fight for May and stop the damn drama
C'mon you know this isn't badminton... it's boxing. Fight me now before I get my ass hauled off to jail just doesn't cut it in boxing. There's a reason fights take a lot of preparation and training. This isn't a gradeschool "meet me outside" fight. This is Floyd expecting Manny to all of a sudden drop everything and rush to fight him under Floyd's timetable. Manny has always been available.... AND.... he's always kept himself busy. Floyd, on the other hand, fights when it suits him. When it doesn't, he goes prancing off.... getting himself into all kinds of trouble and imposing bullshit "retirements" on the fans. Floyd's fans (all 200 of them) will forgive Floyd for whatever he does, and make excuses for the guy left and right. Fan or not, I'd give money to see a diehard Floyd ONLY ONCE come out and say he's tired of Floyd's bullshit. But it's never going to happen. Must've been some brainwashing job.
;)
May is FOUR MONTHS AWAY, not tomorrow. Moreover, Arum was all about "Manny will fight next in May or June, so he can't wait for Mayweather to get out of jail" -- until the jail sentence got pushed; at which point the new story was, "well Manny can't possibly fight in early May because he got a cut in November. And I'd need to build a stadium."
I'm with ElTerrible. I can't stand Floyd but he is making noise now and asking for the fight and there's no legitimate reason for it not to happen.
And Floyd will probably spark Manny's ass if it DOES happen. I'm not arguing against Floyd's skillset, or even the fact that he's probably all wrong for Manny. What I AM arguing is that Floyd gets cut too much slack. He comes and goes as he pleases, and everyone gives him a free pass. Everybody's quick to forget that it was his own self-imposed exile which probably kept a LOT of good fights from happening. Once he came back, and Manny was widely considered # 1...... THAT was the time for him to say: "Step up punk." But he didn't. And all the hand-wringing in the world isn't going to undo that. He left boxing dangling at the end of his string. And NOW that the fight is a couple of years too late, and Manny had such an un-inspiring performance against JMM....... NOW Floyd is finally calling Pacquiao out.
So if they finally do meet and Floyd crushes Manny.... don't bunch me with the group that is guaranteeing a Manny win. One thing has nothing to do with the other. I WISH Manny would win... but I wouldn't bet the house on it.
It is too bad that someone blessed with that level of talent hasn't proven it as much as say, Sugar Ray Leonard -- and his legacy will obviously pay for it. But at the same time, he gets cut slack because he's obviously the best fighter out there and has been for years -- the past decade, really.
There's no legit reason for him to have managed his career the way he has. I'd pick him to win easily every fight he's supposedly ducked and he still would have had room for the gimmes against De la Hoya and other big $$, low-risk fights (the fact that that fight got scored a split remains one of the most ludicrous scoring moments I've seen, btw -- that was a clear 9-3 fight).
But his career is what it is and it's water under the bridge. And, despite his talk, he'll never be an ATG because of it (despite having the skill to have been one). He's also a man though and it's really his prerogative to fight who he's going to fight--and he's obviously been doing plenty well $$-wise doing it the way he has. He doesn't "owe" anything to the sport, though it sucks for us he hasn't wanted to give more.
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Re: Mayweather calls pac out again.
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shza
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
shza
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Maravilla2012
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Don't want to be a spoilsport here, but...... where was all this bravado a couple of years back?
Why now..... all of a sudden, it's "step up punk"?
Just wondering.
Personally I think Mayweather is going to announce his retirement and I really think he wanted to go out at the very top by beating the only person left that he will get real credit for whooping.
Just my thoughts!
Why
NOW, though? Why not a couple of years back? He's not mentioning any conditions now, is he. It's "step up, punk." Fight
NOW, on
MY timetable, before I have to go off to jail.
He could've
"beat the only person left that he will get real credit for whooping" a long time ago. Why didn't he? Why so many conditions? Where are the conditions NOW? Why does he go into "retirement" in his PRIME, while all other top fighters keep busy doing what they do for a living.....
fight.
Like Diane said in an earlier post.... Floyd isn't stupid. But he sure thinks boxing fans are. Gotta be the only explanation.
I'm not saying he would, or he wouldn't beat Pac. I'm saying he has spent the better part of his prime acting like a spoiled brat, instead of giving fight fans what they crave.... the best against the best. Why don't we feel the need to have these conversations about all the other top fighters?
Answer: Because all the other top fighters just FIGHT. They don't go prancing around like prima donnas, thinking they're bigger than the sport.
You gotta be starved for heroes, when you latch onto somebody like Pretty Boy Floyd.
;)
Maybe he is running into big Money issues right now with all the legal stuff going on with him at the moment. The only fight that would make him a lot of money at the moment would be Pac?
The guy's a fukking loser. Wants Pac to jump through hoops now, like someone else very accurately said. Fukk him. Pac doesn't need his prima donna ass.
Pacquiao doesn't fall too far from Prima Donna status either, and Floyd doesn't really need Manny's ass to sell tickets as shown in every PPV he's headlined, both guys are to blame for this fight not coming off, as of right now Floyd is calling out Pacquiao and making all the noise for the fight to be made, Arum and Manny are running from questions that have to do with the fight and only give bullshit excuses not to make the fight happen, I don't give a fuck why Mayweather is calling out Manny now all I know is that he's finally doing it, Manny was plenty vocal of wanting the fight and that he would take the fight on a minute's notice, so what the hell is the problem, make the fucking fight for May and stop the damn drama
C'mon you know this isn't badminton... it's boxing. Fight me now before I get my ass hauled off to jail just doesn't cut it in boxing. There's a reason fights take a lot of preparation and training. This isn't a gradeschool "meet me outside" fight. This is Floyd expecting Manny to all of a sudden drop everything and rush to fight him under Floyd's timetable. Manny has always been available.... AND.... he's always kept himself busy. Floyd, on the other hand, fights when it suits him. When it doesn't, he goes prancing off.... getting himself into all kinds of trouble and imposing bullshit "retirements" on the fans. Floyd's fans (all 200 of them) will forgive Floyd for whatever he does, and make excuses for the guy left and right. Fan or not, I'd give money to see a diehard Floyd ONLY ONCE come out and say he's tired of Floyd's bullshit. But it's never going to happen. Must've been some brainwashing job.
;)
May is FOUR MONTHS AWAY, not tomorrow. Moreover, Arum was all about "Manny will fight next in May or June, so he can't wait for Mayweather to get out of jail" -- until the jail sentence got pushed; at which point the new story was, "well Manny can't possibly fight in early May because he got a cut in November. And I'd need to build a stadium."
I'm with ElTerrible. I can't stand Floyd but he is making noise now and asking for the fight and there's no legitimate reason for it not to happen.
And Floyd will probably spark Manny's ass if it DOES happen. I'm not arguing against Floyd's skillset, or even the fact that he's probably all wrong for Manny. What I AM arguing is that Floyd gets cut too much slack. He comes and goes as he pleases, and everyone gives him a free pass. Everybody's quick to forget that it was his own self-imposed exile which probably kept a LOT of good fights from happening. Once he came back, and Manny was widely considered # 1...... THAT was the time for him to say: "Step up punk." But he didn't. And all the hand-wringing in the world isn't going to undo that. He left boxing dangling at the end of his string. And NOW that the fight is a couple of years too late, and Manny had such an un-inspiring performance against JMM....... NOW Floyd is finally calling Pacquiao out.
So if they finally do meet and Floyd crushes Manny.... don't bunch me with the group that is guaranteeing a Manny win. One thing has nothing to do with the other. I WISH Manny would win... but I wouldn't bet the house on it.
It is too bad that someone blessed with that level of talent hasn't proven it as much as say, Sugar Ray Leonard -- and his legacy will obviously pay for it. But at the same time, he gets cut slack because he's obviously the best fighter out there and has been for years -- the past decade, really.
There's no legit reason for him to have managed his career the way he has. I'd pick him to win easily every fight he's supposedly ducked and he still would have had room for the gimmes against De la Hoya and other big $$, low-risk fights (the fact that that fight got scored a split remains one of the most ludicrous scoring moments I've seen, btw -- that was a clear 9-3 fight).
But his career is what it is and it's water under the bridge. And, despite his talk, he'll never be an ATG because of it (despite having the skill to have been one). He's also a man though and it's really his prerogative to fight who he's going to fight--and he's obviously been doing plenty well $$-wise doing it the way he has. He doesn't "owe" anything to the sport, though it sucks for us he hasn't wanted to give more.
It's all a matter of perspective. I certainly wouldn't argue with you in regards to Floyd not having a spectacular resume, but we no longer are in an era where the best just step up and fight each other. The days of Leonard, Hagler, Hearns, Duran, etc...are long gone. Boxing has always been big business and the promoters play a huge role. Sure, it's easy to look at Floyd as an arrogant thug. But he is a very smart in that he makes sure he gets his $$$ for what he does and doesn't get exploited by the likes Arum. I ultimately can't hate on him for that even if it means some fights don't easily get made. The system naturally exploits the fighters. The few that can get to the level of Mayweather or Delahoya in terms of generating lots of money...my hats off to them. I rather fighters get rich than the promoters. All of this doesn't mean that I think Floyd, Oscar, etc. are "good" guys...just that they are smart for looking out for themselves.
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[Floyd]I-it t-ta-takes six months to pr-promote a f-fight, I'm just just making sm-smart b-business decisions.[/Mayweather]
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I'm a fan of many sports but boxing fans are the worst bullshitters imo always some lame ass excuse and not giving whoever they dislike props.
Egggggsactly
I'm as guilty as the next man I'm sure..(but even I gave JC props when he beat an undefeated Kessler...that really hurt I'll tell ya)
