Re: Wladimir Klitschko-Tony Thompson II July 7th
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I like Wlad. Nice dude, solid boxer. Buts it's recycled pooh like this that makes people want to see him get KTFO Deebo style.
Lyle, I somewhat agree here with Spicoli. New blood would have been better than this.
Wlad didn't make Thompson the mandatory
Its all crap. By now there are many people all over the devisions who should be fighting each other, but money and dodgy dealings get in the way. I dont care much for the Klits. They may be at the top but they play too safe. Safe in the fight and safe in the tight contracts and clauses within them. They always have everything on there side before the fight starts and hang around together trying to intimidate there opponents like a couple of bullies.
In my mind it would be either Helanius, Chisora or Arreola. Helanius has not had a chance yet and the other two would actually come to fight the Klits. Not just try last to the end just so they can say they went all the way with the Klits.
Re: Wladimir Klitschko-Tony Thompson II July 7th
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Leighton
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El Kabong
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Rantcatrat
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Spicoli
I like Wlad. Nice dude, solid boxer. Buts it's recycled pooh like this that makes people want to see him get KTFO Deebo style.
Lyle, I somewhat agree here with Spicoli. New blood would have been better than this.
Wlad didn't make Thompson the mandatory
Its all crap. By now there are many people all over the devisions who should be fighting each other, but money and dodgy dealings get in the way. I dont care much for the Klits. They may be at the top but they play too safe. Safe in the fight and safe in the tight contracts and clauses within them. They always have everything on there side before the fight starts and hang around together trying to intimidate there opponents like a couple of bullies.
In my mind it would be either Helanius, Chisora or Arreola. Helanius has not had a chance yet and
the other two would actually come to fight the Klits. Not just try last to the end just so they can say they went all the way with the Klits.
I'm not a "rah-rah" Klits fan. But I gotta say... I've heard this song and dance before. It's always the same story. Boxer "So-and-so" is gonna come to fight... HE'LL actually give the Klits a tough fight, not just come to survive like the other losers. Then the actual fight gets here and we get a disgraceful, embarassing, boring-as-hell showing, where Boxer X is trying not to soil his underpants while attempting to survive... and Wlad is content jabbing him and keeping him at arm's length. And then the whole sordid cycle starts all over again with Boxer Y.
The HW division is down the toilet right now, and it can't all be put on the Klit brothers. Lyle's right when he says that Wlad doesn't make anybody the mandatory. This is the boxing organization's doing.
Unfortunately, we're stuck in an era where there's Wlad and Vitali... and a bunch of has-beens, never-weres, overweight, blubbery, loudmouth losers who talk a big game to try to GET the fight, and then fight like meek little old ladies once they get the fight. How many times are we supposed to swallow this bitter pill?
Lyle says there's hope.... and rattles off some names for the future. Sorry... I'm not convinced. By the time a credible challenger actually surfaces, the Klits will have retired, and we'll all be reduced to the woulda-beens and the coulda-beens, and the countless arguments of "Who do you think would win between Fighter Z and Wlad in his prime." But they'll all be pointless, 'cause the fight will never happen. As opposed to the Toney's, the Bowe's, and the McCall's.... the Klitschko brothers don't strike me as the type that will come back as fat, overweight, senior citizen heavyweight jokes looking for some sort of ridiculous comeback. They'll stay retired, and enjoy their easily earned money.
Re: Wladimir Klitschko-Tony Thompson II July 7th
Chisora and Arreola both put up a very good fight with Vitali. Why wouldn't they do so with Wlad, who is more reluctant to throw?
Arreola would give Wlad more problems then some people would like to suggest.
Re: Wladimir Klitschko-Tony Thompson II July 7th
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Chisora and Arreola both put up a very good fight with Vitali. Why wouldn't they do so with Wlad, who is more reluctant to throw?
Arreola would give Wlad more problems then some people would like to suggest.
I wouldn't say Wlad is reluctant to throw. I'd say that no one has forced the issue and MADE him throw, if only in self-defense. Arreola has the physical tools, but he's a little of a head case, and there's no telling how he would react to getting caught by a few Wlad shots.
Also, the term "giving Wlad a good fight" just doesn't cut it anymore. I don't want to see a gallant effort ending in an embarrassing KO, and us lauding the victim about how he made Wlad back up once or twice. I want to see someone make Wlad pull out all the stops. I want to see a good heavyweight fight, for the first time in more than a decade, probably. I want to see whether Wlad actually has another gear in his transmission.
And with the shambles that is the HW division right now, if someone like Arreola really wants to be HW champ and thinks he can do it, then by all means get this fight made ASAP. The Klits aren't getting any younger... and eventually the age excuse will come into the picture.
Re: Wladimir Klitschko-Tony Thompson II July 7th
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Chisora and Arreola both put up a very good fight with Vitali. Why wouldn't they do so with Wlad, who is more reluctant to throw?
Arreola would give Wlad more problems then some people would like to suggest.
I wouldn't say Wlad is reluctant to throw. I'd say that no one has forced the issue and MADE him throw, if only in self-defense. Arreola has the physical tools, but he's a little of a head case, and there's no telling how he would react to getting caught by a few Wlad shots.
Also, the term "giving Wlad a good fight" just doesn't cut it anymore. I don't want to see a gallant effort ending in an embarrassing KO, and us lauding the victim about how he made Wlad back up once or twice.
I want to see someone make Wlad pull out all the stops. I want to see a good heavyweight fight, for the first time in more than a decade, probably. I want to see whether Wlad actually has another gear in his transmission.
And with the shambles that is the HW division right now, if someone like Arreola really wants to be HW champ and thinks he can do it, then by all means get this fight made ASAP. The Klits aren't getting any younger... and eventually the age excuse will come into the picture.
And if you want to see a good heavyweight fight like you describe, Arreola is the best man to do it, in my opinion. Very straightforward, and he's got quite a chin. Who else is going to back him up like that, besides maybe Chisora?
Re: Wladimir Klitschko-Tony Thompson II July 7th
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Slim the BoxingManiac
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TitoFan
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Slim the BoxingManiac
Chisora and Arreola both put up a very good fight with Vitali. Why wouldn't they do so with Wlad, who is more reluctant to throw?
Arreola would give Wlad more problems then some people would like to suggest.
I wouldn't say Wlad is reluctant to throw. I'd say that no one has forced the issue and MADE him throw, if only in self-defense. Arreola has the physical tools, but he's a little of a head case, and there's no telling how he would react to getting caught by a few Wlad shots.
Also, the term "giving Wlad a good fight" just doesn't cut it anymore. I don't want to see a gallant effort ending in an embarrassing KO, and us lauding the victim about how he made Wlad back up once or twice.
I want to see someone make Wlad pull out all the stops. I want to see a good heavyweight fight, for the first time in more than a decade, probably. I want to see whether Wlad actually has another gear in his transmission.
And with the shambles that is the HW division right now, if someone like Arreola really wants to be HW champ and thinks he can do it, then by all means get this fight made ASAP. The Klits aren't getting any younger... and eventually the age excuse will come into the picture.
And if you want to see a good heavyweight fight like you describe, Arreola is the best man to do it, in my opinion. Very straightforward, and he's got quite a chin. Who else is going to back him up like that, besides maybe Chisora?
The Adamek-Chambers fight is as good heavyweight fight coming up in June. I'm actually surprised Adamek took it because it's a risky fight for him. There are fights like that one, and Huck-Povetkin, Dimitrenko-Pulev, even Jennings-Liakhovich, that are or were solid heavyweight bouts. They're just not true title fights.
As for a Wladimir challenger, Arreola is a good choice, as is Seth Mitchelll assuming he gets by Witherspoon, the winner of Pulev-Dimitrenko. Speaking of Witherspoon-Mitchell, how big a role with Virgil Hunter, Ward's trainer, play into the outcome of that fight?
Re: Wladimir Klitschko-Tony Thompson II July 7th
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Slim the BoxingManiac
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TitoFan
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Slim the BoxingManiac
Chisora and Arreola both put up a very good fight with Vitali. Why wouldn't they do so with Wlad, who is more reluctant to throw?
Arreola would give Wlad more problems then some people would like to suggest.
I wouldn't say Wlad is reluctant to throw. I'd say that no one has forced the issue and MADE him throw, if only in self-defense. Arreola has the physical tools, but he's a little of a head case, and there's no telling how he would react to getting caught by a few Wlad shots.
Also, the term "giving Wlad a good fight" just doesn't cut it anymore. I don't want to see a gallant effort ending in an embarrassing KO, and us lauding the victim about how he made Wlad back up once or twice.
I want to see someone make Wlad pull out all the stops. I want to see a good heavyweight fight, for the first time in more than a decade, probably. I want to see whether Wlad actually has another gear in his transmission.
And with the shambles that is the HW division right now, if someone like Arreola really wants to be HW champ and thinks he can do it, then by all means get this fight made ASAP. The Klits aren't getting any younger... and eventually the age excuse will come into the picture.
And if you want to see a good heavyweight fight like you describe, Arreola is the best man to do it, in my opinion. Very straightforward, and he's got quite a chin. Who else is going to back him up like that, besides maybe Chisora?
The Adamek-Chambers fight is as good heavyweight fight coming up in June. I'm actually surprised Adamek took it because it's a risky fight for him. There are fights like that one, and Huck-Povetkin, Dimitrenko-Pulev, even Jennings-Liakhovich, that are or were solid heavyweight bouts. They're just not true title fights.
As for a Wladimir challenger, Arreola is a good choice, as is Seth Mitchelll assuming he gets by Witherspoon, the winner of Pulev-Dimitrenko. Speaking of Witherspoon-Mitchell, how big a role with Virgil Hunter, Ward's trainer, play into the outcome of that fight?
I like both Adamek and Chambers. That should be a pretty good fight. I look forward to tuning in for that one.
Re: Wladimir Klitschko-Tony Thompson II July 7th
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El Kabong
There's a new Danish heavyweight on the scene and is billed as "The Biggest Boxer in the World" Morten Poulsen is 7'2 and was like 4-0 as an amateur.
Really the guys on the horizon like Joe Hanks & Deontay Wilder will bring the heat to the post Klitschko era. I think Hanks would make a very solid champion.
I could have swore I saw videos of Poulsen "training" years ago, and I thought "wow that is a very tall tomato can"
Hanks and Wilder needs to fight live bodies before we make any assumptions about them being the future. Neither one needs anymore pampering, they both need to face some adversity.
Re: Wladimir Klitschko-Tony Thompson II July 7th
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El Kabong
There's a new Danish heavyweight on the scene and is billed as "The Biggest Boxer in the World" Morten Poulsen is 7'2 and was like 4-0 as an amateur.
Really the guys on the horizon like Joe Hanks & Deontay Wilder will bring the heat to the post Klitschko era. I think Hanks would make a very solid champion.
Deontay Wilder doesn't seem to be progressing. as soon as he steps up I think he gets stopped. Hope I'm wrong because of his size and athletic ability.
