Re: Disgusting commentary on Boxrec by Bob Sheridan and his sidekick
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NoBias
Yea i thought the commentary was very bad, i mean in the first few rounds Floyd was thowing combo's but just hitting Cotto's gloves they were making it sound like these punches were landing clean, saying things like 'wow another 3 punch combanation from the master how can you defend againt this' i was like he is defending?
I think they made there minds up from the moment the bell rang in the first round who's side they were on
Agreed. Good post, and welcome to the forum.
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Re: Disgusting commentary on Boxrec by Bob Sheridan and his sidekick
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Jimanuel Boogustus
To be honest it looked to me at first that Floyd was coasting at some point (after hurting Cotto and not pressing the attack) but I think it was more to do with Floyd conserving his energy.
That is pretty much how i saw it, Floyd built up a lead and then paced himself, he was fighting Cotto at his weight and on his terms. He also had great respect for Cotto, he knew he was in for a tough fight and probably also knew he couldn't stop him. It was a 12 round fight and that is what Floyd prepared for and fought for. He looked very fresh in Round 11 and by round 12 almost put Cotto away. Floyd fought a great fight against a great fighter.
Cotto will be back, he has some time left and he will win another belt. They should keep Canelo well away from Miguel Cotto, he will lose!
Re: Disgusting commentary on Boxrec by Bob Sheridan and his sidekick
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Snakey
Ill admit that Bob Sheridan goes overboard in his commentating. But I saw it very similiar, a lot of what Cotto threw didnt hit. And just coz this is the most mayweather has been hit in yrs doesnt mean you win the fight coz of that, theres no award for hitting mayweather more than the other guy...it just means you landed a little more than anyone in a while...while getting a boxing lesson. I felt that Floyd could of ended it any time he wanted to but chose to just coast. We saw in the 12th that any time floyd opened up he was a legit chance of hurting cotto.
Is anybody saying that Cotto won the fight? Punches were landing to the body and we were told 'they are all missing'. It just wasn't true. Just because Floyd finally wore his man out did not mean he could have taken out Cotto anytime. I hate arguments like that. If he could done, he would have done, but nadda. Just overdoing the Floyd lush thing.
LOL cotto never hurt floyd and never had him in trouble. Lots of cottos work was missing and most of floyds were landing. I think it was the fourth round or something but floyd unloaded and wobbled cotto and floyd just chose to let him off the hook. Then in the 12th it showed that if he wanted to do he could hurt cotto at will and if it had of gone another round i think cotto would of been koed. Get over it, floyd was the better boxer and he got the respect he deserved. So did cotto but truth was he was missing a lot. He hit floyd more then most ppl have in yrs but when ppl are only landing under 20% against him it still mean you arent landing a lot even if you do better.
Re: Disgusting commentary on Boxrec by Bob Sheridan and his sidekick
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Snakey
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Gandalf
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Snakey
Ill admit that Bob Sheridan goes overboard in his commentating. But I saw it very similiar, a lot of what Cotto threw didnt hit. And just coz this is the most mayweather has been hit in yrs doesnt mean you win the fight coz of that, theres no award for hitting mayweather more than the other guy...it just means you landed a little more than anyone in a while...while getting a boxing lesson. I felt that Floyd could of ended it any time he wanted to but chose to just coast. We saw in the 12th that any time floyd opened up he was a legit chance of hurting cotto.
Is anybody saying that Cotto won the fight? Punches were landing to the body and we were told 'they are all missing'. It just wasn't true. Just because Floyd finally wore his man out did not mean he could have taken out Cotto anytime. I hate arguments like that. If he could done, he would have done, but nadda. Just overdoing the Floyd lush thing.
LOL cotto never hurt floyd and never had him in trouble. Lots of cottos work was missing and most of floyds were landing. I think it was the fourth round or something but floyd unloaded and wobbled cotto and floyd just chose to let him off the hook. Then in the 12th it showed that if he wanted to do he could hurt cotto at will and if it had of gone another round i think cotto would of been koed. Get over it, floyd was the better boxer and he got the respect he deserved. So did cotto but truth was he was missing a lot. He hit floyd more then most ppl have in yrs but when ppl are only landing under 20% against him it still mean you arent landing a lot even if you do better.
Oh yeah, Snakey. Matter of fact, I think I spotted Floyd stifling a yawn somewhere during one of those rounds. Maybe they can do a rematch where Floyd can have one arm tied behind his back. You know... to make it more competitive.
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Re: Disgusting commentary on Boxrec by Bob Sheridan and his sidekick
You know maybe you shoud tie one of floyds arms up...coz that would be the only chance Cotto woud have to beat mayweather.
Whats it matter mate? I admit that Sheridan goes overboard on his commentary and I even found myself at times going WTF is he on about. But I did see it similar in the way cotto was throwing shit loads of punches but fuck all were connecting. Its like the dela hoya fight, dela hoya threw alot with floyd on the ropes but fuck all were effective.
Re: Disgusting commentary on Boxrec by Bob Sheridan and his sidekick
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Snakey
You know maybe you shoud tie one of floyds arms up...coz that would be the only chance Cotto woud have to beat mayweather.
Whats it matter mate? I admit that Sheridan goes overboard on his commentary and I even found myself at times going WTF is he on about. But I did see it similar in the way cotto was throwing shit loads of punches but fuck all were connecting. Its like the dela hoya fight, dela hoya threw alot with floyd on the ropes but fuck all were effective.
Kostya Tzyu woulda gotten schooled, humilated, and stopped by Floyd. Wouldn't have won a round. There take that you big meanie !!! ;D;)
Re: Disgusting commentary on Boxrec by Bob Sheridan and his sidekick
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Hulk
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Snakey
You know maybe you shoud tie one of floyds arms up...coz that would be the only chance Cotto woud have to beat mayweather.
Whats it matter mate? I admit that Sheridan goes overboard on his commentary and I even found myself at times going WTF is he on about. But I did see it similar in the way cotto was throwing shit loads of punches but fuck all were connecting. Its like the dela hoya fight, dela hoya threw alot with floyd on the ropes but fuck all were effective.
Kostya Tzyu woulda gotten schooled, humilated, and stopped by Floyd. Wouldn't have won a round. There take that you big meanie !!! ;D;)
You're right Kostya Tzyu would've been schooled by Floyd, but Kostya Tszyu might have given Floyd more trouble than you think at 140lbs.;)
Re: Disgusting commentary on Boxrec by Bob Sheridan and his sidekick
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Snakey
You know maybe you shoud tie one of floyds arms up...coz that would be the only chance Cotto woud have to beat mayweather.
Whats it matter mate? I admit that Sheridan goes overboard on his commentary and I even found myself at times going WTF is he on about. But I did see it similar in the way cotto was throwing shit loads of punches but fuck all were connecting. Its like the dela hoya fight, dela hoya threw alot with floyd on the ropes but fuck all were effective.
This was a fight worth watching a second time, which I did. Now more than ever, your assessment of the fight seems light-years away from reality. Put in other terms.......
:LOS:
Re: Disgusting commentary on Boxrec by Bob Sheridan and his sidekick
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THE THIRD MAN
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Hulk
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Originally Posted by
Snakey
You know maybe you shoud tie one of floyds arms up...coz that would be the only chance Cotto woud have to beat mayweather.
Whats it matter mate? I admit that Sheridan goes overboard on his commentary and I even found myself at times going WTF is he on about. But I did see it similar in the way cotto was throwing shit loads of punches but fuck all were connecting. Its like the dela hoya fight, dela hoya threw alot with floyd on the ropes but fuck all were effective.
Kostya Tzyu woulda gotten schooled, humilated, and stopped by Floyd. Wouldn't have won a round. There take that you big meanie !!! ;D;)
You're right Kostya Tzyu would've been schooled by Floyd, but Kostya Tszyu might have given Floyd more trouble than you think at 140lbs.;)
Hey its not my fault that fucker has a tricky name to spell ;D
Re: Disgusting commentary on Boxrec by Bob Sheridan and his sidekick
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Hulk
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THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by
Hulk
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Originally Posted by
Snakey
You know maybe you shoud tie one of floyds arms up...coz that would be the only chance Cotto woud have to beat mayweather.
Whats it matter mate? I admit that Sheridan goes overboard on his commentary and I even found myself at times going WTF is he on about. But I did see it similar in the way cotto was throwing shit loads of punches but fuck all were connecting. Its like the dela hoya fight, dela hoya threw alot with floyd on the ropes but fuck all were effective.
Kostya Tzyu woulda gotten schooled, humilated, and stopped by Floyd. Wouldn't have won a round. There take that you big meanie !!! ;D;)
You're right Kostya Tzyu would've been schooled by Floyd, but Kostya Tszyu might have given Floyd more trouble than you think at 140lbs.;)
Hey its not my fault that fucker has a tricky name to spell ;D
I spell it wrong all the time, have to google his name, bloody Russians! Who puts a Z before a Y anyway:)
Re: Disgusting commentary on Boxrec by Bob Sheridan and his sidekick
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THE THIRD MAN
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Hulk
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Originally Posted by
THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by
Hulk
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Originally Posted by
Snakey
You know maybe you shoud tie one of floyds arms up...coz that would be the only chance Cotto woud have to beat mayweather.
Whats it matter mate? I admit that Sheridan goes overboard on his commentary and I even found myself at times going WTF is he on about. But I did see it similar in the way cotto was throwing shit loads of punches but fuck all were connecting. Its like the dela hoya fight, dela hoya threw alot with floyd on the ropes but fuck all were effective.
Kostya Tzyu woulda gotten schooled, humilated, and stopped by Floyd. Wouldn't have won a round. There take that you big meanie !!! ;D;)
You're right Kostya Tzyu would've been schooled by Floyd, but Kostya Tszyu might have given Floyd more trouble than you think at 140lbs.;)
Hey its not my fault that fucker has a tricky name to spell ;D
I spell it wrong all the time, have to google his name, bloody Russians! Who puts a Z before a Y anyway:)
Lol had to try and navigate a Russian site once or twice for a boxing stream and its alien like.
Re: Disgusting commentary on Boxrec by Bob Sheridan and his sidekick
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IamInuit
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THE THIRD MAN
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Hulk
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Originally Posted by
THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by
Hulk
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Originally Posted by
Snakey
You know maybe you shoud tie one of floyds arms up...coz that would be the only chance Cotto woud have to beat mayweather.
Whats it matter mate? I admit that Sheridan goes overboard on his commentary and I even found myself at times going WTF is he on about. But I did see it similar in the way cotto was throwing shit loads of punches but fuck all were connecting. Its like the dela hoya fight, dela hoya threw alot with floyd on the ropes but fuck all were effective.
Kostya Tzyu woulda gotten schooled, humilated, and stopped by Floyd. Wouldn't have won a round. There take that you big meanie !!! ;D;)
You're right Kostya Tzyu would've been schooled by Floyd, but Kostya Tszyu might have given Floyd more trouble than you think at 140lbs.;)
Hey its not my fault that fucker has a tricky name to spell ;D
I spell it wrong all the time, have to google his name, bloody Russians! Who puts a Z before a Y anyway:)
Lol had to try and navigate a Russian site once or twice for a boxing stream and its alien like.
I navigate sites from russia from time to time but its for reasons other than boxing :)
Re: Disgusting commentary on Boxrec by Bob Sheridan and his sidekick
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THE THIRD MAN
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Hulk
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THE THIRD MAN
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Originally Posted by
Hulk
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Snakey
You know maybe you shoud tie one of floyds arms up...coz that would be the only chance Cotto woud have to beat mayweather.
Whats it matter mate? I admit that Sheridan goes overboard on his commentary and I even found myself at times going WTF is he on about. But I did see it similar in the way cotto was throwing shit loads of punches but fuck all were connecting. Its like the dela hoya fight, dela hoya threw alot with floyd on the ropes but fuck all were effective.
Kostya Tzyu woulda gotten schooled, humilated, and stopped by Floyd. Wouldn't have won a round. There take that you big meanie !!! ;D;)
You're right Kostya Tzyu would've been schooled by Floyd, but Kostya Tszyu might have given Floyd more trouble than you think at 140lbs.;)
Hey its not my fault that fucker has a tricky name to spell ;D
I spell it wrong all the time, have to google his name, bloody Russians! Who puts a Z before a Y anyway:)
haha
He's not Russian he's actually an orc.
Re: Disgusting commentary on Boxrec by Bob Sheridan and his sidekick
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TitoFan
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Snakey
You know maybe you shoud tie one of floyds arms up...coz that would be the only chance Cotto woud have to beat mayweather.
Whats it matter mate? I admit that Sheridan goes overboard on his commentary and I even found myself at times going WTF is he on about. But I did see it similar in the way cotto was throwing shit loads of punches but fuck all were connecting. Its like the dela hoya fight, dela hoya threw alot with floyd on the ropes but fuck all were effective.
This was a fight worth watching a second time, which I did. Now more than ever, your assessment of the fight seems light-years away from reality. Put in other terms.......
:LOS:
Righto mate I dont really care. I dont think Cotto was effective and I think he received a boxing lesson. The only rounds cotto won were the ones that floyd chose to take off. Answer this...do you think if floyd was told he was down on points that he wouldnt of been able to walk out and knock cotto out? If that was the case Floyd would of unloaded combo after combo until Cotto couldnt defend and it would of been pac/cotto all over again. Cotto was down on points the whole way and he looked no where close to getting a finish.
Re: Disgusting commentary on Boxrec by Bob Sheridan and his sidekick
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TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Snakey
You know maybe you shoud tie one of floyds arms up...coz that would be the only chance Cotto woud have to beat mayweather.
Whats it matter mate? I admit that Sheridan goes overboard on his commentary and I even found myself at times going WTF is he on about. But I did see it similar in the way cotto was throwing shit loads of punches but fuck all were connecting. Its like the dela hoya fight, dela hoya threw alot with floyd on the ropes but fuck all were effective.
This was a fight worth watching a second time, which I did. Now more than ever, your assessment of the fight seems light-years away from reality. Put in other terms.......
:LOS:
(Righto mate I dont really care. Agree)
(I dont think Cotto was effective Disagree)
(and I think he received a boxing lesson. Disagree)
(The only rounds cotto won were the ones that floyd chose to take off. Disagree) (Answer this...do you think if floyd was told he was down on points that he wouldnt of been able to walk out and knock cotto out? NO)
(If that was the case Floyd would of unloaded combo after combo until Cotto couldnt defend and it would of been pac/cotto all over again. Disagree)
(Cotto was down on points the whole way and he looked no where close to getting a finish.Disagree)
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I don't disagree with everything you've said... just the highlighted parts above.
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Snakey
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TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Snakey
You know maybe you shoud tie one of floyds arms up...coz that would be the only chance Cotto woud have to beat mayweather.
Whats it matter mate? I admit that Sheridan goes overboard on his commentary and I even found myself at times going WTF is he on about. But I did see it similar in the way cotto was throwing shit loads of punches but fuck all were connecting. Its like the dela hoya fight, dela hoya threw alot with floyd on the ropes but fuck all were effective.
This was a fight worth watching a second time, which I did. Now more than ever, your assessment of the fight seems light-years away from reality. Put in other terms.......
:LOS:
(Righto mate I dont really care.
Agree)
(I dont think Cotto was effective
Disagree)
(and I think he received a boxing lesson.
Disagree)
(The only rounds cotto won were the ones that floyd chose to take off.
Disagree) (Answer this...do you think if floyd was told he was down on points that he wouldnt of been able to walk out and knock cotto out?
NO)
(If that was the case Floyd would of unloaded combo after combo until Cotto couldnt defend and it would of been pac/cotto all over again.
Disagree)
(Cotto was down on points the whole way and he looked no where close to getting a finish
.Disagree)
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I don't disagree with everything you've said... just the highlighted parts above.
Well i think you and I should just agree to disagree coz we obviously saw very different fights. Theres no way cotto was any where close to finishing floyd and never looked like he could and I dont think cotto was ever up on the score cards in that fight. If you and I cant agree those points then its pointless even discussing coz I think at least those two points are definite.
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TitoFan
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Snakey
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Snakey
You know maybe you shoud tie one of floyds arms up...coz that would be the only chance Cotto woud have to beat mayweather.
Whats it matter mate? I admit that Sheridan goes overboard on his commentary and I even found myself at times going WTF is he on about. But I did see it similar in the way cotto was throwing shit loads of punches but fuck all were connecting. Its like the dela hoya fight, dela hoya threw alot with floyd on the ropes but fuck all were effective.
This was a fight worth watching a second time, which I did. Now more than ever, your assessment of the fight seems light-years away from reality. Put in other terms.......
:LOS:
(Righto mate I dont really care.
Agree)
(I dont think Cotto was effective
Disagree)
(and I think he received a boxing lesson.
Disagree)
(The only rounds cotto won were the ones that floyd chose to take off.
Disagree) (Answer this...do you think if floyd was told he was down on points that he wouldnt of been able to walk out and knock cotto out?
NO)
(If that was the case Floyd would of unloaded combo after combo until Cotto couldnt defend and it would of been pac/cotto all over again.
Disagree)
(Cotto was down on points the whole way and he looked no where close to getting a finish
.Disagree)
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I don't disagree with everything you've said... just the highlighted parts above.
Well i think you and I should just agree to disagree coz we obviously saw very different fights. Theres no way cotto was any where close to finishing floyd and never looked like he could and I dont think cotto was ever up on the score cards in that fight. If you and I cant agree those points then its pointless even discussing coz I think at least those two points are definite.
You know, for having such wildly different opinions, this last post I don't have much of a problem with. You made two basic points in this last post:
Cotto was nowhere close to finishing Floyd. (I don't disagree with this, dude. If that's what you meant by the last sentence in your previous post... then I misunderstood).
You don't think Cotto was ever up on the scorecards in that fight. (I don't disagree with this either, dude. HOWEVER... I disagree totally with those scorecards. I've already posted my own round-by-round scoring of the fight (IMO) in another thread, where I had it 7-5 Floyd or arguably 8-4, but that's it. AND YET... judging by the official scorecards, it is evident none of the judges at the fight ever had Cotto ahead. So no... Cotto was never up on the official scorecards. I just don't agree with those scorecards).
Still, your previous post I found to be very dismissing and disrespectful of Cotto's effort and accomplishments that night. So while I agree with your two points in this last post of yours, I still disagree with your previous post entirely.
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Snakey
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TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Snakey
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Snakey
You know maybe you shoud tie one of floyds arms up...coz that would be the only chance Cotto woud have to beat mayweather.
Whats it matter mate? I admit that Sheridan goes overboard on his commentary and I even found myself at times going WTF is he on about. But I did see it similar in the way cotto was throwing shit loads of punches but fuck all were connecting. Its like the dela hoya fight, dela hoya threw alot with floyd on the ropes but fuck all were effective.
This was a fight worth watching a second time, which I did. Now more than ever, your assessment of the fight seems light-years away from reality. Put in other terms.......
:LOS:
(Righto mate I dont really care.
Agree)
(I dont think Cotto was effective
Disagree)
(and I think he received a boxing lesson.
Disagree)
(The only rounds cotto won were the ones that floyd chose to take off.
Disagree) (Answer this...do you think if floyd was told he was down on points that he wouldnt of been able to walk out and knock cotto out?
NO)
(If that was the case Floyd would of unloaded combo after combo until Cotto couldnt defend and it would of been pac/cotto all over again.
Disagree)
(Cotto was down on points the whole way and he looked no where close to getting a finish
.Disagree)
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I don't disagree with everything you've said... just the highlighted parts above.
Well i think you and I should just agree to disagree coz we obviously saw very different fights. Theres no way cotto was any where close to finishing floyd and never looked like he could and I dont think cotto was ever up on the score cards in that fight. If you and I cant agree those points then its pointless even discussing coz I think at least those two points are definite.
You know, for having such wildly different opinions, this last post I don't have much of a problem with. You made two basic points in this last post:
Cotto was nowhere close to finishing Floyd. (I don't disagree with this, dude. If that's what you meant by the last sentence in your previous post... then I misunderstood).
You don't think Cotto was ever up on the scorecards in that fight. (I don't disagree with this either, dude. HOWEVER... I disagree totally with those scorecards. I've already posted my own round-by-round scoring of the fight (IMO) in another thread, where I had it 7-5 Floyd or arguably 8-4, but that's it. AND YET... judging by the official scorecards, it is evident none of the judges at the fight ever had Cotto ahead. So no... Cotto was never up on the official scorecards. I just don't agree with those scorecards).
Still, your previous post I found to be very dismissing and disrespectful of Cotto's effort and accomplishments that night. So while I agree with your two points in this last post of yours, I still disagree with your previous post entirely.
Ok may be I worded it badly or was a little to in to it. We shall leave it there then ;)
Re: Disgusting commentary on Boxrec by Bob Sheridan and his sidekick
....one of the most biased commentaries EVER!