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Re: Fury: UK fans don't understand boxing, Johnson a top 5 Heavyweight
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Master
Why does Haye not fight regularly then? He stands a better chance being active but chooses to go on celebrity shows and semi retirement instead.
I honestly believe money and fame, more fame than money though. He doesn't seem to be interested in boxing. If he fights people that aren't that big he doesn't get as much notice fame wise or money as he would if he fought V Klitschko. Which is the biggest and most paying fight for him.
Just my theory.
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Re: Fury: UK fans don't understand boxing, Johnson a top 5 Heavyweight
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Master
OK maybe I went over the top but you are over exaggerating how good Haye is, There is a reason why he does not fight often. That is because Haye is not a confident heavyweight, he knows he is one punch away from getting KOed.
People slag Haye because he's mouthy and he spends more time talking than he does in the ring. But if you look at what he has achieved when he has fought, it is hard not to be impressed. As a fight he has all the tools and keeps himself in peak physical condition. His speed and power are superb for a Heavyweight and I honestly can't see anyone outside the Klitschko's beating him. The reason he doesn't fight is more to do with money than anything. Haye is all about the risk-reward. Mayweather does the exact same thing.
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Re: Fury: UK fans don't understand boxing, Johnson a top 5 Heavyweight
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bzkfn
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Originally Posted by
Master
OK maybe I went over the top but you are over exaggerating how good Haye is, There is a reason why he does not fight often. That is because Haye is not a confident heavyweight, he knows he is one punch away from getting KOed.
People slag Haye because he's mouthy and he spends more time talking than he does in the ring. But if you look at what he has achieved when he has fought, it is hard not to be impressed. As a fight he has all the tools and keeps himself in peak physical condition. His speed and power are superb for a Heavyweight and I honestly can't see anyone outside the Klitschko's beating him. The reason he doesn't fight is more to do with money than anything. Haye is all about the risk-reward. Mayweather does the exact same thing.
Haye was a very good cruiserweight and at heavyweight he manoeuvred himself well to get a title. Haye is nothing like Floyd at this weight division. Haye does not fight because he knows he will get knocked out by a heavyweight.
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Re: Fury: UK fans don't understand boxing, Johnson a top 5 Heavyweight
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Originally Posted by
Master
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bzkfn
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Master
OK maybe I went over the top but you are over exaggerating how good Haye is, There is a reason why he does not fight often. That is because Haye is not a confident heavyweight, he knows he is one punch away from getting KOed.
People slag Haye because he's mouthy and he spends more time talking than he does in the ring. But if you look at what he has achieved when he has fought, it is hard not to be impressed. As a fight he has all the tools and keeps himself in peak physical condition. His speed and power are superb for a Heavyweight and I honestly can't see anyone outside the Klitschko's beating him. The reason he doesn't fight is more to do with money than anything. Haye is all about the risk-reward. Mayweather does the exact same thing.
Haye was a very good cruiserweight and at heavyweight he manoeuvred himself well to get a title. Haye is nothing like Floyd at this weight division. Haye does not fight because he knows he will get knocked out by a heavyweight.
He fought the best Heavyweight in the world and din't get knocked out. No Heavyweight he has fought has knocked him out so I fail to see your logic here.
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Re: Fury: UK fans don't understand boxing, Johnson a top 5 Heavyweight
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Master
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bzkfn
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Originally Posted by
Master
OK maybe I went over the top but you are over exaggerating how good Haye is, There is a reason why he does not fight often. That is because Haye is not a confident heavyweight, he knows he is one punch away from getting KOed.
People slag Haye because he's mouthy and he spends more time talking than he does in the ring. But if you look at what he has achieved when he has fought, it is hard not to be impressed. As a fight he has all the tools and keeps himself in peak physical condition. His speed and power are superb for a Heavyweight and I honestly can't see anyone outside the Klitschko's beating him. The reason he doesn't fight is more to do with money than anything. Haye is all about the risk-reward. Mayweather does the exact same thing.
Haye was a very good cruiserweight and at heavyweight he manoeuvred himself well to get a title. Haye is nothing like Floyd at this weight division. Haye does not fight because he knows he will get knocked out by a heavyweight.
Now I haven't seen all of your 17,000 posts,
but your last like 5 have been total uncensored bullshit.
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Re: Fury: UK fans don't understand boxing, Johnson a top 5 Heavyweight
Haye is no Holyfield he has carefully selected his opponents at heavyweights. He has done it for a reason that his chin is not as durable as it should be at heavyweight. His performance against Wlad was poor and negative. What makes Haye think he does not have to fight Adamek, Arreleo and others to earn a proper shot. He said Vitali must fight him because Vitali has no legacy fight. He thinks way too much of himself.
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Re: Fury: UK fans don't understand boxing, Johnson a top 5 Heavyweight
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Originally Posted by
Master
Haye is no Holyfield he has carefully selected his opponents at heavyweights. He has done it for a reason that his chin is not as durable as it should be at heavyweight. His performance against Wlad was poor and negative. What makes Haye think he does not have to fight Adamek, Arreleo and others to earn a proper shot. He said Vitali must fight him because Vitali has no legacy fight. He thinks way too much of himself.
Klitschko - 51 KOs
Ruiz - 30 KOs
Valuev - 34 KOs
I don't think you even believe half the shit your saying.
Just your dislike of Haye clouding your judgement.
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Re: Fury: UK fans don't understand boxing, Johnson a top 5 Heavyweight
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Vendettos
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Originally Posted by
Master
Haye is no Holyfield he has carefully selected his opponents at heavyweights. He has done it for a reason that his chin is not as durable as it should be at heavyweight. His performance against Wlad was poor and negative. What makes Haye think he does not have to fight Adamek, Arreleo and others to earn a proper shot. He said Vitali must fight him because Vitali has no legacy fight. He thinks way too much of himself.
Klitschko - 51 KOs
Ruiz - 30 KOs
Valuev - 34 KOs
I don't think you even believe half the shit your saying.
Just your dislike of Haye clouding your judgement.
Exactly. Not to mention that Adamek and Arreola don't go looking for Haye.
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Re: Fury: UK fans don't understand boxing, Johnson a top 5 Heavyweight
This is funny. I am a Haye fan but a realist. I see him for what he is, trying to get the most amount of money for the least risk possible. I know that is the nature of the game but Haye is too obvious.
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Re: Fury: UK fans don't understand boxing, Johnson a top 5 Heavyweight
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Master
This is funny. I am a Haye fan but a realist. I see him for what he is, trying to get the most amount of money for the least risk possible. I know that is the nature of the game but Haye is too obvious.
How is Mayweather not the same? He'd have fought Pacquiao by now if he wasn't.
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Re: Fury: UK fans don't understand boxing, Johnson a top 5 Heavyweight
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bzkfn
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Master
This is funny. I am a Haye fan but a realist. I see him for what he is, trying to get the most amount of money for the least risk possible. I know that is the nature of the game but Haye is too obvious.
How is Mayweather not the same? He'd have fought Pacquiao by now if he wasn't.
Floyd have proved he is the best welterweight in the division and p4p when he went up and beat ODH and Cotto.
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Re: Fury: UK fans don't understand boxing, Johnson a top 5 Heavyweight
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Master
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bzkfn
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Master
This is funny. I am a Haye fan but a realist. I see him for what he is, trying to get the most amount of money for the least risk possible. I know that is the nature of the game but Haye is too obvious.
How is Mayweather not the same? He'd have fought Pacquiao by now if he wasn't.
Floyd have proved he is the best welterweight in the division and p4p when he went up and beat ODH and Cotto.
So by taking the most amount of money for the least risk possible? I'm a Floyd fan but this is the game. Haye fights the same amount of times a year and does the exact same thing.
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Re: Fury: UK fans don't understand boxing, Johnson a top 5 Heavyweight
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Master
This is funny. I am a Haye fan but a realist. I see him for what he is, trying to get the most amount of money for the least risk possible. I know that is the nature of the game but Haye is too obvious.
Calzaghe made a career of doing exactly that.
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Re: Fury: UK fans don't understand boxing, Johnson a top 5 Heavyweight
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Master
This is funny. I am a Haye fan but a realist. I see him for what he is, trying to get the most amount of money for the least risk possible. I know that is the nature of the game but Haye is too obvious.
He fought Wlad, raped Chisora when many were saying he would get his Ass owned and now wants to fight Vitali....how is that the least risk possible :rolleyes:
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Re: Fury: UK fans don't understand boxing, Johnson a top 5 Heavyweight
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mofo2
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Master
This is funny. I am a Haye fan but a realist. I see him for what he is, trying to get the most amount of money for the least risk possible. I know that is the nature of the game but Haye is too obvious.
He fought Wlad, raped Chisora when many were saying he would get his Ass owned and now wants to fight Vitali....how is that the least risk possible :rolleyes:
He was out of his depth against Wlad and that performance was embarrassing, even with the toe injury. Chisora had lost to Vitali and Tyson Fury, wow.
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Re: Fury: UK fans don't understand boxing, Johnson a top 5 Heavyweight
I disagree that UK fans dont understand Boxing but I do agree that Johnson was a top 5 HW when Tyson beat him.. ( alphabet rankings dont mean shit )
Tyson beat Johnson more convincingly than Vitali did imo and that speaks volumes..
IT's unbelievable how Tyson has elevated his game since few years back.. It's as if he's really starting to understand the sweet science..
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Re: Fury: UK fans don't understand boxing, Johnson a top 5 Heavyweight
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FinitoElDinamita
I disagree that UK fans dont understand Boxing but I do agree that Johnson was a top 5 HW when Tyson beat him.. ( alphabet rankings dont mean shit )
Tyson beat Johnson more convincingly than Vitali did imo and that speaks volumes..
IT's unbelievable how Tyson has elevated his game since few years back.. It's as if he's really starting to understand the sweet science..
Dude, can I have my superglue back now? I gotta stick the toilet seat back...
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Re: Fury: UK fans don't understand boxing, Johnson a top 5 Heavyweight
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Bobthepen
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FinitoElDinamita
I disagree that UK fans dont understand Boxing but I do agree that Johnson was a top 5 HW when Tyson beat him.. ( alphabet rankings dont mean shit )
Tyson beat Johnson more convincingly than Vitali did imo and that speaks volumes..
IT's unbelievable how Tyson has elevated his game since few years back.. It's as if he's really starting to understand the sweet science..
Dude, can I have my superglue back now? I gotta stick the toilet seat back...
U know very little about the sweet science, i can tell.. JUst ask me and Ill be happy to teach you cuz I happen to be one of the Ivyleaguer's of Boxing.
