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Your right jerry.
And everyone else is wrong.
Lets just leave it at that.
In regards to the original thread if marquez beats bradley, a rios fight would be interesting if rios can get past pacman.
Either way, marquez could happily retire if he beats an undefeated bradley but i just dont see him beating the desert storm.
If Marquez and Floyd win I don't see who else they should fight other then then each other again. There really isn't anyone worthy or that should be more worthy until mayweather puts him in his place again. This guy just KO'd paquiao and if he beats Bradley there is no other fight for him but mayweather then win or lose he can retire.
Theres no point in the mayweather fight. Hes better of retiring on a win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abelardus
I say Marquez stops Bradley... somewhere after the 6th Round, you are going to have major testing done on Bradley. Pac-man sorta let him off of the hook and Pac SHOULD have brutalized him more than he did, and Provodnik didn't have the finish...
Marquez will test him to the limits... Marquez will have no pity. Marquez will pour it on... Bradley is NO Mayweather.
I like that too. Hate the bullshit fighters say which they clearly know isn't going to happen. Marquez knows there ain't nothing he could do differently to beat floydQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
I agree with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by impTheres no point in the mayweather fight. Hes better of retiring on a win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abelardus
Marquez would earn millions though , and another loss to floyd won't damage his legacy too much.Quote:
Originally Posted by AbelardusI agree with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by impTheres no point in the mayweather fight. Hes better of retiring on a win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abelardus
http://www.boxingscene.com/bradley-marquez-if-no-vada-usada-ill-walk-away--67984
Fight won't happen unless Marquez agrees to specific drug testing.
Bradley acting like a little bitch. Bob Arum (his promoter) already said he would personally pay for Nevada to do stricter testing. Giving him what he asked for. What more does he fucking want? Does he really think Arum and the state of Nevada are gonna conspire against him? He can't be that stupid. Not only that but Arum mentioned this over a month ago. Why didn't he bitch and complain than? He knew about it. Why wait as the fight gets closer to all of a sudden pretend he has a problem with it? He just wants out. It's pretty obvious he's realized this is a fight he's not gonna win
“The idea . . . we talked to the Nevada commission and they are going to do it as vigorously as VADA and USADA do it, maybe more so,” said Arum. “This is not something for a promoter. This is something for the regulatory commission. And as long as [testing] is totally vigorous, these fighters don’t understand. There’s no VADA. No USADA. As long as the testing is the same as [those agencies] are doing, as long as the tests are administered by the commission, that’s as good as you’re going to get.”
That’s not necessarily true. In a logical and perfect world, the state commissions charged with overseeing boxing would follow WADA Code and have anti-doping testing that is both year round and state-of-the-art. But this is boxing which is very far from logic or perfection. Each state has different rules about everything. Some states don’t test at all. And when they do, it’s not a lock they’ll test for PEDs. Some only test for recreational drugs.
The truth is that whenever USADA or VADA have been conducting tests for fights in Nevada or elsewhere, both agencies conducted more stringent and state-of-the-art testing than any state commission. That’s because each group uses World Anti-Doping Agency-accredited sample collectors and labs. Nevada uses Quest Diagnostics, which uses neither WADA-trained and accredited sample collectors or labs. The labs USADA and VADA use, either the UCLA Olympic Testing Lab or the Sports Medicine Research and Testing Laboratory (SMRTL) in Salt Lake City, Utah, can conduct tests for drugs of choice like the endurance building blood doping agent EPO, or Human Growth Hormone (HGH) and synthetic testosterone. Quest Diagnostics does not have that capability.
“So maybe they’ll use another lab for this,” said Arum when I explained this to him.
That Arum did not know this rudimentary detail raises yet another important question: who is designing this protocol that will, according to Arum, be based on VADA and USADA’s? Who is the “PED expert” in charge of detailing what drugs need to be tested for and how often? It took VADA roughly a year to put together its protocols with people such as WADA co-founder Richard Pound, former Tower of Power bass player, BALCO founder and anti-doping activist Victor Conte as well as co-creators of CIR Dr. Rodrigo Aguilera and Dr. Don Catlin weighing in at various stages along the way. In the recent Lucian Bute-Jean Pascal promotion, testing was also an issue. Unable to come to an agreement over VADA versus USADA, both promotional companies lost valuable testing time as they tried to come to an agreement, find a lab and put together a protocol agreed upon by all parties.
The point is that it’s not as easy as paying someone to “do it like VADA or USADA.”
Another question is whether or not this promotion’s testing protocol will follow WADA Code or Nevada’s. For example, WADA allows for a 4:1 T/E ratio which is in essence, an allowance of four times the amount of testosterone that your body produces, at any given time in or out of competition. Nevada has a 6:1 T/E ratio for reasons still unclear.
Max Boxing - News - New York, Nevada, and the 6:1 T/E Ratio problem in Boxing
Nevada also has a controversial recent history of allowing therapeutic use exemptions (TUE) for synthetic testosterone for MMA fighters. In several cases, the TUE was not revealed until after the bout. Could that happen here?
Arum said he had spoken to both Nevada chairman Bill Brady and Executive Director Keith Kizer about the plan, which apparently began forming last week.
“They said to me that as long as I pay for it, they will do testing as extensive, if not more so, as those organizations do,” stated Arum. “If that means, using another lab, they have no contract with the labs they are using.”
The validity of the latter statement remains to be seen.
Max Boxing - News - Will Arum's proposed Nevada testing endanger Marquez vs. Bradley?
Bradley wont loose to marquez.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
He doesnt know how too.
Bradley has the heart of a lion and wont fight the wrong fight this time.
LolQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Pacman let him off the hook?!
Bradley was injured and pacman could only fight a minute of the round due to timothys movement.
Lets just remember that bradley injured his ankle in the 2nd round (i think) and still won the fight..whether empty win or not.
He deserves some credit.
Doesn't matter what fight Bradley fights. Marquez will adapt to it. Bradley doesn't bring anything to the table that Marquez hasn't seen and beaten beforeQuote:
Originally Posted by impBradley wont loose to marquez.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
He doesnt know how too.
Bradley has the heart of a lion and wont fight the wrong fight this time.
who exactly has marquez beaten that makes u think he has bradley all figured outQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseDoesn't matter what fight Bradley fights. Marquez will adapt to it. Bradley doesn't bring anything to the table that Marquez hasn't seen and beaten beforeQuote:
Originally Posted by impBradley wont loose to marquez.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
He doesnt know how too.
Bradley has the heart of a lion and wont fight the wrong fight this time.
I don't see much difference in Bradley and Juan Diaz style. Both throw a lot of punches that carry little power. And both are open to counters all day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxer4lifewho exactly has marquez beaten that makes u think he has bradley all figured outQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseDoesn't matter what fight Bradley fights. Marquez will adapt to it. Bradley doesn't bring anything to the table that Marquez hasn't seen and beaten beforeQuote:
Originally Posted by impBradley wont loose to marquez.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
He doesnt know how too.
Bradley has the heart of a lion and wont fight the wrong fight this time.
Now who has Bradley beaten to make people think he has a chance against Marquez?
Come on man.
Marquez is 40 years old and this is bradleys time.
This will be great fight that both fighters have to win.
Cant wait.
THis fight is going to be a chessmatch. If Bradley fights smart and keep it on the outside, Marquez is going to have a tough time.
MArquez is not effective when he's the aggressor. He's at his best when opponents come to him and Bradley is wise enough to know that.
I just hope Marquez refuses the tests so this fight can get scratched.
He damn near got stopped in his last fight by a crude, C level fighter who doesn't come close to possessing the offensive arsenal that Marquez does. And now he''s suppose to have a chance against Marquez? It's pretty clear you're new to the sport of boxingQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
It's Bradley's time alright. Time for his ass to get knocked the fuck out.
Does anyone know what British channel this fight will be on?
Its pretty clear your never open to anyones opinion but your own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseHe damn near got stopped in his last fight by a crude, C level fighter who doesn't come close to possessing the offensive arsenal that Marquez does. And now he''s suppose to have a chance against Marquez? It's pretty clear you're new to the sport of boxingQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
It's Bradley's time alright. Time for his ass to get knocked the fuck out.
Grow up.
Bradley will have all the tools to adapt to this situation.
He doesnt hit as hard and probably isnt smarter but he will get the job done.
Only when they make sense I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by impIts pretty clear your never open to anyones opinion but your own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseHe damn near got stopped in his last fight by a crude, C level fighter who doesn't come close to possessing the offensive arsenal that Marquez does. And now he''s suppose to have a chance against Marquez? It's pretty clear you're new to the sport of boxingQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
It's Bradley's time alright. Time for his ass to get knocked the fuck out.
Grow up.
Bradley will have all the tools to adapt to this situation.
He doesnt hit as hard and probably isnt smarter but he will get the job done.
I see you couldn't provide an answer on who Bradley has beaten before to make one think he can beat Marquez.
Styles make fights?Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseOnly when they make sense I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by impIts pretty clear your never open to anyones opinion but your own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseHe damn near got stopped in his last fight by a crude, C level fighter who doesn't come close to possessing the offensive arsenal that Marquez does. And now he''s suppose to have a chance against Marquez? It's pretty clear you're new to the sport of boxingQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
It's Bradley's time alright. Time for his ass to get knocked the fuck out.
Grow up.
Bradley will have all the tools to adapt to this situation.
He doesnt hit as hard and probably isnt smarter but he will get the job done.
I see you couldn't provide an answer on who Bradley has beaten before to make one think he can beat Marquez.
Im love marquez just as much as bradley but father time is on bradleys side and bradley will find a way.
He always does.
Bradley has been welter a lot longer than marquez has and we will all be surprised at this bradley performance.
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Originally Posted by impStyles make fights?Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseOnly when they make sense I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by impIts pretty clear your never open to anyones opinion but your own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseHe damn near got stopped in his last fight by a crude, C level fighter who doesn't come close to possessing the offensive arsenal that Marquez does. And now he''s suppose to have a chance against Marquez? It's pretty clear you're new to the sport of boxingQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
It's Bradley's time alright. Time for his ass to get knocked the fuck out.
Grow up.
Bradley will have all the tools to adapt to this situation.
He doesnt hit as hard and probably isnt smarter but he will get the job done.
I see you couldn't provide an answer on who Bradley has beaten before to make one think he can beat Marquez.
Im love marquez just as much as bradley but father time is on bradleys side and bradley will find a way.
He always does.
Bradley has been welter a lot longer than marquez has and we will all be surprised at this bradley performance.
Did you really think that Bradley beat Pac.
The judges thought bradley beat pac.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceQuote:
Originally Posted by impStyles make fights?Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseOnly when they make sense I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by impIts pretty clear your never open to anyones opinion but your own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseHe damn near got stopped in his last fight by a crude, C level fighter who doesn't come close to possessing the offensive arsenal that Marquez does. And now he''s suppose to have a chance against Marquez? It's pretty clear you're new to the sport of boxingQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
It's Bradley's time alright. Time for his ass to get knocked the fuck out.
Grow up.
Bradley will have all the tools to adapt to this situation.
He doesnt hit as hard and probably isnt smarter but he will get the job done.
I see you couldn't provide an answer on who Bradley has beaten before to make one think he can beat Marquez.
Im love marquez just as much as bradley but father time is on bradleys side and bradley will find a way.
He always does.
Bradley has been welter a lot longer than marquez has and we will all be surprised at this bradley performance.
Did you really think that Bradley beat Pac.
The judges thought pac beat marquez in the decisons.
Bottom line, dont leave it with the judges..marquez didnt on the 4th fight.
An injured bradley beat pac.
I thought pac beat bradley.
I also thought marquez beat pac in one out of the trilogy.
Do you still think it was a miracle punch that marquez threw?
Ive been seeing alot of bullshit lately about how Marquez landed a " lucky punch " on pacquiao lmfao fuckin seriously? Only a complete novice or somebody who has never boxed before would come to such conclusion because clearly, somebody who boxes would have realized that Marquez was looking for that punch all night long. IT was a setup punch.. Even prior to that knockout, he was landing the same punch alot and at the final moment, everything from his footwork to his timing indicated that it he practiced that same shot over and over in the gym...
Pacquiao is Marquez' bitch, period..
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Originally Posted by impThe judges thought bradley beat pac.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceQuote:
Originally Posted by impStyles make fights?Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseOnly when they make sense I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by impIts pretty clear your never open to anyones opinion but your own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseHe damn near got stopped in his last fight by a crude, C level fighter who doesn't come close to possessing the offensive arsenal that Marquez does. And now he''s suppose to have a chance against Marquez? It's pretty clear you're new to the sport of boxingQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
It's Bradley's time alright. Time for his ass to get knocked the fuck out.
Grow up.
Bradley will have all the tools to adapt to this situation.
He doesnt hit as hard and probably isnt smarter but he will get the job done.
I see you couldn't provide an answer on who Bradley has beaten before to make one think he can beat Marquez.
Im love marquez just as much as bradley but father time is on bradleys side and bradley will find a way.
He always does.
Bradley has been welter a lot longer than marquez has and we will all be surprised at this bradley performance.
Did you really think that Bradley beat Pac.
The judges thought pac beat marquez in the decisons.
Bottom line, dont leave it with the judges..marquez didnt on the 4th fight.
An injured bradley beat pac.
I thought pac beat bradley.
I also thought marquez beat pac in one out of the trilogy.
Do you still think it was a miracle punch that marquez threw?
I don't know why you guy's get so pissed about this, I can see if we were watching a technical chess match between two fighters and Marquez caught him coming in I would say that was skill, but when you take a fighter who
1. Had been rocked numerous times and looked like he was close to being KO'd
2. Never been known as a knockout artist or even a hard puncher
And he takes boxings premier fighter and knocks him out cold is the exception not the rule.
Jerry,
Surely you know what a counter puncher does?!
No offense fella, but its pretty obvious that marquez timed this punch to perfection.
When martinez ko paul williams that was a wild punch of flurries they were both throwing but they both MEANT to throw these punches and someone got caught.
Lucky miracle punches only apply to audley harrison.
We all dont like seeing our best fighters getting beat/ko.
My heart was broken when i saw roy jones getting knocked out but i dont dislike or discredit tarver over it.
It was tarvers hand.
Tarvers brain made that hand moved where he wanted it to move at the right time.
Give the winners credit..jeez
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Originally Posted by imp
Give it a rest imp, I am not even a Pac fan.
Dont make silly miracle/punch comments then my little flower.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
Give it a rest imp, I am not even a Pac fan.
There's no such thing as a lucky punch in boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceQuote:
Originally Posted by impThe judges thought bradley beat pac.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceQuote:
Originally Posted by impStyles make fights?Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseOnly when they make sense I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by impIts pretty clear your never open to anyones opinion but your own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseHe damn near got stopped in his last fight by a crude, C level fighter who doesn't come close to possessing the offensive arsenal that Marquez does. And now he''s suppose to have a chance against Marquez? It's pretty clear you're new to the sport of boxingQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
It's Bradley's time alright. Time for his ass to get knocked the fuck out.
Grow up.
Bradley will have all the tools to adapt to this situation.
He doesnt hit as hard and probably isnt smarter but he will get the job done.
I see you couldn't provide an answer on who Bradley has beaten before to make one think he can beat Marquez.
Im love marquez just as much as bradley but father time is on bradleys side and bradley will find a way.
He always does.
Bradley has been welter a lot longer than marquez has and we will all be surprised at this bradley performance.
Did you really think that Bradley beat Pac.
The judges thought pac beat marquez in the decisons.
Bottom line, dont leave it with the judges..marquez didnt on the 4th fight.
An injured bradley beat pac.
I thought pac beat bradley.
I also thought marquez beat pac in one out of the trilogy.
Do you still think it was a miracle punch that marquez threw?
I don't know why you guy's get so pissed about this, I can see if we were watching a technical chess match between two fighters and Marquez caught him coming in I would say that was skill, but when you take a fighter who
1. Had been rocked numerous times and looked like he was close to being KO'd
2. Never been known as a knockout artist or even a hard puncher
And he takes boxings premier fighter and knocks him out cold is the exception not the rule.
Tell that to Ricky Hatton ;D
1. Both Pac and Marquez were rocked numerous times in all 4 of their fights. Marquez had already dropped Pacquiao with a huge punch similar to the one which knocked him out, just a couple rounds before. Did you happen to see it?:rolleyes:.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceQuote:
Originally Posted by impThe judges thought bradley beat pac.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry RiceQuote:
Originally Posted by impStyles make fights?Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseOnly when they make sense I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by impIts pretty clear your never open to anyones opinion but your own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseHe damn near got stopped in his last fight by a crude, C level fighter who doesn't come close to possessing the offensive arsenal that Marquez does. And now he''s suppose to have a chance against Marquez? It's pretty clear you're new to the sport of boxingQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
It's Bradley's time alright. Time for his ass to get knocked the fuck out.
Grow up.
Bradley will have all the tools to adapt to this situation.
He doesnt hit as hard and probably isnt smarter but he will get the job done.
I see you couldn't provide an answer on who Bradley has beaten before to make one think he can beat Marquez.
Im love marquez just as much as bradley but father time is on bradleys side and bradley will find a way.
He always does.
Bradley has been welter a lot longer than marquez has and we will all be surprised at this bradley performance.
Did you really think that Bradley beat Pac.
The judges thought pac beat marquez in the decisons.
Bottom line, dont leave it with the judges..marquez didnt on the 4th fight.
An injured bradley beat pac.
I thought pac beat bradley.
I also thought marquez beat pac in one out of the trilogy.
Do you still think it was a miracle punch that marquez threw?
I don't know why you guy's get so pissed about this, I can see if we were watching a technical chess match between two fighters and Marquez caught him coming in I would say that was skill, but when you take a fighter who
1. Had been rocked numerous times and looked like he was close to being KO'd
2. Never been known as a knockout artist or even a hard puncher
And he takes boxings premier fighter and knocks him out cold is the exception not the rule.
2. That's funny.
Marquez had already fought boxings premier fighter btw, and he only landed a couple of miracle punches in the whole fight. You should watch it to.