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Roy tested positive for a fat loss pill.
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Roy tested positive for a fat loss pill.
Lets stick to pre tarver 2 roy.
The thing is floyds style will always last longer.
Roy never had defense. His speed and confidence was his defense which made an invisible chin.
After the muscle loss and tarver loss, the confidence went and so did roys physical ability and defense.
Floyd on the other hand, might loose a few rounds in a fight might take a massive shot but he will always have his defense to fall back on as its part of him overall.
Floyd has a reserve.
Thats what makes longevity..
Thats what makes floyd BETTER
But does it make him more dominant?
It must do.
For me it is Lil Floyd.
Jones was of 'my era'. When he turned pro it was seriously thought we might have someone who was going to rival Robinson as the finest ever. But he started slowly...
Things started to pick up when he beat a fellow prospect Hopkins. At the time, considered a solid win, but some thought Jones should of looked more impressive. Then he disappeared again, and despite flattening his mandatory Thomas Tate impressively (which at the time got more kudos than decisioning Hopkins), it was not until the Toney fight that Jones finally started living up to the hype, in a truly awesome performance.
But then he stalled again, beating an ancient Pazienza and McCallum were hardly setting the world alight, and it was not as if there was no one for Jones to fight with, that could've got him serious money. But for whatever reason Benn, Eubank and later Collins fights were not to be.
The first Griffin fight seemed to spur him on again, but after Hill he sleepwalked through fights, avoiding the one person we wanted him to fight. And I do not know why, Germany or not, Roy would have humiliated Michalczewski IMO.
The Ruiz fight was the final glimpse of what could've been, but by then people realized a very special fighter had, had a very solid career, that touched greatness, but he never grabbed that greatness and yanked himself up to Robinson's et al table...
I despise Lil Floyd vile act; probably because I am getting old and cranky. But it cannot be denied within a couple of years of turning pro he had reached true world class, and although ridiculously controlling and at times arrogant, he has fought virtually all that matters in his era, with one obvious exception. And through often brilliance and sometimes a bit of luck, he has always got the job done.
In due course I think most will put Mayweather Jr ahead Jones Jr in Boxing's Valhalla.
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Roy tested positive for a fat loss pill.
No, supposedly he took ripped fuel, a fat cutting supplement.
Strictly sticking to question, on pure literal dominance be it explosive or at times satisfied with total control its gotta be Jones. Not competition, titles etc...but highlighting all of his advantages. Both were too content in spots and went through the motions though. Personally for me, Jones can't touch Mayweather in boxing 101 and did not have that refined technique or superior foundation. He got away with some bad habits with phenominal reflex and speed. I can't stand Mayweather but he strikes me more professional and the more complete fighter.