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Manny has ALWAYS been the same with marquez.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
All fighters get worse (not inc hopkins)
I agree that roach is desperate but he always has been.
Hopefully, pac can avenge his defeat to bradley and his devastating ko to 40yr old marquez and then in 2015 there could be a chance..if bob arum allows it.
People want to see there favorite fighters through rose tinted glasses. Pac has been on the slide now for sometime. The fight against Rios did nothing for me to dispel that fact. Pac looks slower...PERIOD. Is he still a warrior that can put up a good fight...sure...against CERTAIN style matchups. But at this point...the fight with Floyd will simply be a money making event. In the ring...it's a mismatch. If some people want to fool themselves that the Rios fight is an indicator that Pac has what it takes to beat Floyd...get ready for a rude awakening.
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IT DOESN'T MATTER IF PAC IS "ON THE SLIDE"
Pacquiao is still the only other "Brand Name" in the weight class for Floyd to fight.
I don't give 2 shits if Pac gets KO'd during the fucking ring walk MAKE THE GOD DAMNED FIGHT! The fans deserve it. And need I remind you that there are very rabid Pac fans and very rabid Mayweather haters who see this as the last chance to see Floyd lose (I mean I don't think so but whatever).
Who will bring Floyd the most money? His nickname is still "Money" right? I mean that's what he cares about? If that's the case then Pac is 10 times the draw anyone else on the short list is and if he's lost a step or two then all the better for Floyd. The main point is we've got the top 2 fighters of this era and they COULD fight but people are all of a sudden worried about if Pac is in his prime? HORSE POOP! Was Tyson in his prime vs Holyfield much less Lewis?
Its a big interesting fight it needs to be made. Any other fight bar maybe Floyd vs Martinez is too fucking simple for Floyd, yeah that's me saying Floyd is THAT great right now.
I don't disagree with what you are saying. Obviously it will generate tremendous amounts of money. I was simply trying to say that this fight is no longer of interest to me as a competitive match up. This is now a spectacle fight. I was more addressing the hype that somehow Pac is ready to face Floyd because of his Rios performance. But biased Pac fans also have the excuse ready if Pac loses: "he was no longer at his prime and Floyd ducked him a few years back"...the Floyd ducking him part clearly bs. But whatever...hope it happens so we can finally put it to rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Many MANY boxing fights are like that. Hagler-Leonard was like that, RJJ-Hopkins II, Calzaghe-Hopkins, Calzaghe-RJJ, Lewis-Tyson, Tyson-Holyfield wasn't as much, but it had it's own issues surrounding it.Quote:
Originally Posted by zhubin
It's still a good fight, it's still a big fight, and it's something the fans still want and that's why the win vs Rios was big enough to warrant the fight. Had Pac lost, fine maybe then it's a pointless fight, but he can still throw his hands and do damage that's all we need to know.
Such a shame it will never happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Bob arum can make this happen. Theres so much behind the scenes we dont know about and a billionaire like bob who is the most experienced promotor on earth who has been fined for bribing and numerous other underhand deals.
If only pac was a free agent but hes not..if devon puts on a show in his fight he is up next.
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Originally Posted by El Kabong
Ok.... now THAT was funny. ;D
Only possibility for that is if Canelo is stupid enough to fight at a catch weight and did not learn from that mistake vs Money. 2nd of all this fight would garner all the benefits for Pac and nothing for Canelo. This fight would end Canelo's marketing appeal. JMM already filled the Mexican fight fans thirst.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Manny clearly deserves the fight.
Manny doesnt deserve anything. Just like floyd doesnt deserve it. Both legacies are set in stone already, THey could both retire now and still be considered all time greats.
The only people that deserve to see a manny vs floyd fight is the fans. Manny doesnt need floyd, nor does floyd need manny.
All this talk of manny earning a fight with mayweather is total bullshit. What did floyds last 5 fighters do that warranted a fight.
People act like floyd is king and manny is a fucking underling.
He did. He walked on the moon. Well at least he said he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
And you call yourself a knowledgeable boxer. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfnHe did. He walked on the moon. Well at least he said he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
I see what your saying chris, but turn the situation around for sec.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878
If manny was undefeated and dominating everyone in the sport of boxing and making the most money and you have floyd who had back to back losses against smart boxers and the last loss was a devasting ko.
Even though floyd had those losses against bradley and marquez he is still a great fighter BUT you would think that bradley or marquez would get a shot against pac first (even though the only fight marquez and pac had marquez was dominated in every round that he openly admitted what is the point in doing a rematch!)
And i didnt even mention garcia..
But ignoring all the above, pac and floyd makes the most money and manny "money" pac would want that fight but unfortunately him and bob arum cant do business.
But one retires financially set. While the other one retires financially ruined.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878
I completely agree with you here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseBut one retires financially set. While the other one retires financially ruined.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878
While Floyd is housing hoes and getting rob point blank left and right. Pac is going to be President of his country possibly as soon as 2016. The current liberal party is already making moves to destroy pacs by claiming he is not being a good citizen by not paying taxes, just like what Floyd has done. President Aquino knows they handled the typoon situation terribly and had to find a way to distract their fuck up by turning the attention to the Countries Icon and future president. Plus the fact that Pac is giving more of his own money than the whole government to the typoon victim.
VD you are right on with this one. Good job!
Of course Pac deserves a shot at Floyd.. I can't believe anybody would have voted no!
We will only know if Pac's chin has improved when he takes a hard shot flush on the chin and shakes it off...
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Pac deserves to see an accountant. Hope he has saved the receipts to Jinkee's face work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Power
That's like being Valedictorian of a class full of downs syndrome kids. Who the fuck cares? What's that gonna pay him? McDonald money? Philippine Peso ain't worth a muthafukkin thingQuote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainI completely agree with you here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseBut one retires financially set. While the other one retires financially ruined.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878
While Floyd is housing hoes and getting rob point blank left and right. Pac is going to be President of his country possibly as soon as 2016. The current liberal party is already making moves to destroy pacs by claiming he is not being a good citizen by not paying taxes, just like what Floyd has done. President Aquino knows they handled the typoon situation terribly and had to find a way to distract their fuck up by turning the attention to the Countries Icon and future president. Plus the fact that Pac is giving more of his own money than the whole government to the typoon victim.
VD you are right on with this one. Good job!
There's 92 million people in Pacquiao's country there, $#!t-brains...