Pazienza would have beaten Gerald McClellan, Joe Calzahge and Ezzard Charles on the same night! Ya'll musta forgot.
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Pazienza would have beaten Gerald McClellan, Joe Calzahge and Ezzard Charles on the same night! Ya'll musta forgot.
Jones was a phenomenal, freakish fighter. I think we all agree that he would give anyone problems.
His reflexes were uncanny, and that's what won him his fights. His chin was only average and he had glaring faults in his technique ..... but he got away with it because of his athleticism and reflexes. Once they started to go, he became very mortal.
People do think that the history of boxing begins and ends with the period they watched when they were young.
There have been some truly great light heavies, many of whom would probably start as a favourite against Roy. When you are talking about elite fighters, it often becomes a matter of stylistic match ups ..... ie who had the style to trouble Jones the most?
For my money, Matthew Saad Muhammad had the wrong style for Roy. He would have refused to be discouraged, he would walk through walls and he had superb stamina and heart.
Ezzard Charles was supremely accomplished, tough and adaptive. He could fight and he could box, and he cold do both at once.
Bob Foster was a other freak of nature, with numbing power. That great equaliser would make him competitive and dangerous to any light heavy who ever lived.
A young Archie Moore knew more about fighting than Roy would ever do. A consummate pro and technician, intelligent enough to vary his gameplan during a round.
I know this will cause waves/drama, but I honestly feel like the Hop of 2001-2004 had a great shot of beating Roy. Not saying it was guaranteed mind you, just saying Hop was at his best during this period, and had morphed his style to deal specifically with Roy's advantages in athleticism and size. Since Roy was so fast and powerful, a Hop win would've required an unaesthetic style/quality, and not played well with the fans, however (much like the rematch when both were well past their primes).
He was great great boxer but his chin did not match his other qualities. He relied on freakish speed and reflexes but as he moved up and down in weight and got older the speed lessened and he had to rely on a chin that he did not have.Quote:
Originally Posted by VG_Addict
So I think had he had fought a Gerald McClellan a Nigel Benn or a Julian Jackson they may well have knocked him out cold
As much as I like Nigel Benn, and Benn certainly used to apply ridiculous amounts of pressure, at that time, I would see RJJ being way too elusive and skilful and giving a bit of a masterclass frustrating Benn .Quote:
Originally Posted by denilson200He was great great boxer but his chin did not match his other qualities. He relied on freakish speed and reflexes but as he moved up and down in weight and got older the speed lessened and he had to rely on a chin that he did not have.Quote:
Originally Posted by VG_Addict
So I think had he had fought a Gerald McClellan a Nigel Benn or a Julian Jackson they may well have knocked him out cold
Like has been said before, there are a few that could beat RJJ, but whether they would is another story.
Maybe at LHW, but Roy was a MW & SMW in his prime imo.
Well lhw like said before i have Spinks beating him most of the time do to skill size and the reach not to mention the power he had at the weight. Foster and Charles would be nightmares to because of there size they were big lhw and were skilled with a shit ton of power. At the lower weights i kinda agree with Master with Calzaghe but he no way be favored at all but his style was a good mess. Like was pointed out his chin was far from concrete but he was so fast and hard to hit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraAs much as I like Nigel Benn, and Benn certainly used to apply ridiculous amounts of pressure, at that time, I would see RJJ being way too elusive and skilful and giving a bit of a masterclass frustrating Benn .Quote:
Originally Posted by denilson200He was great great boxer but his chin did not match his other qualities. He relied on freakish speed and reflexes but as he moved up and down in weight and got older the speed lessened and he had to rely on a chin that he did not have.Quote:
Originally Posted by VG_Addict
So I think had he had fought a Gerald McClellan a Nigel Benn or a Julian Jackson they may well have knocked him out cold
Like has been said before, there are a few that could beat RJJ, but whether they would is another story.
Maybe at LHW, but Roy was a MW & SMW in his prime imo.