Greatest British HW of all time? Vote NOW!

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Did Gatti return to Italy and fight for the Italian Belt ? Do you really think you can get to 12 years old in the East End without having a fight? What do you think returning to England to become a pro actually signified then? Fighting in York Hall on Bethnal Green, The Royal Albert Hall,Crystal Palace,Hull,Gateshead,Sheffield,Cardiff and Wembley is what makes Lewis a product of Britain. He was taught as an amateur in Canada by a Romanian
before the American John Davenport trained him for 19 fights. Then later his British Promoter Maloney brought Steward in to train his British based British Boxer. To claim that Lennox the boxer is not a product of England is like claiming that Amir Khan is not British because his parents are Pakistani and he trained with Freddy Roach in America.

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Now now Greenz you're being a silly goose and you're grasping at straws.

You can't compare having a few fights on the cobbles as a young bloke to actually learning the sweet science. You don't learn anything about boxing that way.

The Amir Khan comparison is rubbish too, because Khan grew up and learned to box in England. If Lennox Lewis grew up and learned to box in England and then moved to Canada and refined his skill, I wouldn't be arguing the point with you. But he never laced up a boxing glove until he came to Canada, so at best he's 1/4 British as a fighter.

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Originally Posted by erics44

thing is most of the HWs from ever country in the world are mediocre/plop, that doesnt set britain appart

what does set britain appart from every other country is that theres only one bruno, and hes English

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Yeah that's true but England has been hurting for great fighters for a long time.

I do love Frank Bruno though.

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Originally Posted by erics44

thing is most of the HWs from ever country in the world are mediocre/plop, that doesnt set britain appart

what does set britain appart from every other country is that theres only one bruno, and hes English

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Yeah that's true but England has been hurting for great fighters for a long time.

I do love Frank Bruno though.

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ive got absolutely no idea what youre on about

its good to hear you agree that bruno is the best lb4lb fighter of all time tho, you obviously know your shit

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Did Gatti return to Italy and fight for the Italian Belt ? Do you really think you can get to 12 years old in the East End without having a fight? What do you think returning to England to become a pro actually signified then? Fighting in York Hall on Bethnal Green, The Royal Albert Hall,Crystal Palace,Hull,Gateshead,Sheffield,Cardiff and Wembley is what makes Lewis a product of Britain. He was taught as an amateur in Canada by a Romanian
before the American John Davenport trained him for 19 fights. Then later his British Promoter Maloney brought Steward in to train his British based British Boxer. To claim that Lennox the boxer is not a product of England is like claiming that Amir Khan is not British because his parents are Pakistani and he trained with Freddy Roach in America.

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Now now Greenz you're being a silly goose and you're grasping at straws.

You can't compare having a few fights on the cobbles as a young bloke to actually learning the sweet science. You don't learn anything about boxing that way.

The Amir Khan comparison is rubbish too, because Khan grew up and learned to box in England. If Lennox Lewis grew up and learned to box in England and then moved to Canada and refined his skill, I wouldn't be arguing the point with you. But he never laced up a boxing glove until he came to Canada, so at best he's 1/4 British as a fighter.

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did you read fensters post above? Lewis said that all canadians are gay, think about that?

Lewis picked the British side for financial reasons, I covered this quite extensively in Appendix C of the "Lewis the Wannabe Limey" report.

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Lewis picked the British side for financial reasons, I covered this quite extensively in Appendix C of the "Lewis the Wannabe Limey" report.

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We shall take you word on that then and ignore everything Lennox has said to the contrary. After all why would he want to be associated with his place of birth or the place that codified and popularised boxing and 80% of all other sports enjoyed around the world ? Why would he want to fight for the glorious and esteemed, beautiful prize that is the Lonsdale belt ? Why would he want to be mentioned alongside Jem Mace, Freddie Welsh, Jim Driscoll, Jimmy Wilde, Randolph Turpin, Bob Fitzsimmons, Ken Buchanan, Jackie Berg,Benny Lynch, Joe Calzaghe, Nigel Benn, Ricky Hatton, etc after all like you said "England has been hurting for great fighters for a long time".

England is not Britain, The gene for hugeness is not exclusively carried by Jamaicans,Amateur boxingeven at Olympic level is not the same as the pros, that is were you really start to learn, All Canadians except Gatti who was Italian, Stiverne who is Haitian, Stevenson who is Haitian, Pascal who is Haitian,Bute who is Romanian and a bit rubbish, Chuvalo and Tommy Burns (respect) Yvon Durelle who despite having a girls name gets a pass for being a fishermen (double hard bastards round my parts), Ruddock who is Jamican, Dixon for being a trail blazer, Berbick who is Jamaican,Jimmy Mclarnin and IamInuit who is not, are gay and couldn't fight there way out of a soggy mayonnaise covered bag of chips.


What we have learned is that most Canadian boxers are Jamaican or Haitian.

So shut your fucking face Uncle Fucker

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suck my balls :-X

Whatever, piggy back on Canada's boxing achievements if you must! I just think it's lame, is all.

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Whatever, piggy back on Canada's boxing achievements if you must! I just think it's lame, is all.

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Whatever reason Lewis picked Britain , mainly because he was born there , he chose it because he preferred it to Canada , cant you read between the lines ? He chose it, not the British public , but Lewis himself.

It's Lennox Lewis.

Hey, if you're looking at genetics to make someone British, then you'd have to omit every non-Anglo-Saxon on your list, but being a citizen of a particular Nation is a political construct not based on race; it's birthright citizenship if you're born there, and Lennox Lewis was. That's the white man's laws.

Maybe you're right though, therefore white people and black people in Canada and the USA aren't really true citizens of North America at all but merely offspring of illegal alien European immigrants as you certainly are not First Nations people indigenous to this continent (indigenous, American "Indians".)

That makes Lennox not Canadian, not British, and not Jamaican either, but African.


Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong...

i can't believe nobody has mentioned the greatest British heavyweight of all time, without a debate or a shadow of a doubt, no question about it at all ...... The mighty Funso Banjo!

Clearly you must all be having memory problems. Our most successful heavyweight was obviously Joe Bugner!!!!!

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It's Lennox Lewis.

Hey, if you're looking at genetics to make someone British, then you'd have to omit every non-Anglo-Saxon on your list, but being a citizen of a particular Nation is a political construct not based on race; it's birthright citizenship if you're born there, and Lennox Lewis was. That's the white man's laws.

Maybe you're right though, therefore white people and black people in Canada and the USA aren't really true citizens of North America at all but merely offspring of illegal alien European immigrants as you certainly are not First Nations people indigenous to this continent (indigenous, American "Indians".)

That makes Lennox not Canadian, not British, and not Jamaican either, but African.


Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong...

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nope its bruno

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Lewis picked the British side for financial reasons, I covered this quite extensively in Appendix C of the "Lewis the Wannabe Limey" report.

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thats not true, he clearly feels that all canadians are soft

mind you if he really wanted to show his hardness he would have been born in the north of england

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Do you really think you can get to 12 years old in the East End without having a fight?

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Not a fucking chance :o

Well you could say that Lewis did become a champ when he was in England and was born there so i don't think it that big of a deal to call him a British champ. If not i guess it would have to be Bruno who was good but just could not hold to save his life when he got hurt or take a fucking knee.

I did not vote because the answer in Lennox Lewis.

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Lennox was born in England. England is part of Great Britain. Lennox left Great Britain at 12 by which time he was irrevocably British. He then himself returned to Britain as an Adult and fought as a Brit from Britain. He has repeatedly claimed to be proud of his Great British heritage and England the place where he was born. He is British.

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canada is still a british colony too isnt it........

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Originally Posted by bradlee180

It's Lennox Lewis.

Hey, if you're looking at genetics to make someone British, then you'd have to omit every non-Anglo-Saxon on your list, but being a citizen of a particular Nation is a political construct not based on race; it's birthright citizenship if you're born there, and Lennox Lewis was. That's the white man's laws.

Maybe you're right though, therefore white people and black people in Canada and the USA aren't really true citizens of North America at all but merely offspring of illegal alien European immigrants as you certainly are not First Nations people indigenous to this continent (indigenous, American "Indians".)

That makes Lennox not Canadian, not British, and not Jamaican either, but African.


Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong...

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To me it's 70% where you are produced as a boxer, 25% genetics and 5% where you were born (usually that's a part of where you are produced as a boxer but in Lennox "The Wannabe Limey" Lewis' case they must be separated.) That means he's 5% a British boxer.

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Lennox was born in England. England is part of Great Britain. Lennox left Great Britain at 12 by which time he was irrevocably British. He then himself returned to Britain as an Adult and fought as a Brit from Britain. He has repeatedly claimed to be proud of his Great British heritage and England the place where he was born. He is British.

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canada is still a british colony too isnt it........

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Damn right it is!

Canadians don't even realize this, they think Canada's a real Country; bull$#!t, it remains a colonial power...

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Lennox was born in England. England is part of Great Britain. Lennox left Great Britain at 12 by which time he was irrevocably British. He then himself returned to Britain as an Adult and fought as a Brit from Britain. He has repeatedly claimed to be proud of his Great British heritage and England the place where he was born. He is British.

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canada is still a british colony too isnt it........

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Damn right it is!

Canadians don't even realize this, they think Canada's a real Country; bull$#!t, it remains a colonial power...

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you got that right, the queen is on the money here and she is even head of state ! Get lennox reinstated in this poll born in blighty and was kind enough to represent the colonies in the olympics, Lennox is as british as al murray !

Yeah thats one thing I will agree on, unfortunately we still pledge allegiance to the queen (fucking cunt she is) and her shitty, UGLY family.

At this point in time, we've lived through Bruno and the ups and downs of Lewis but as an American if you don't mind my saying this, I picked Mr. Henry Cooper because of his temperament and the fact that he could have been greater, probably today a better cruiser weight. Mr. Cooper always gave me the impression years later as I became an adult that he was capable of kicking your ass and kicking down the suds hours after the bout. I have no doubt that with modern training and nutrition that he would have got by many of those punches that cut him. I am an Ali fan but nothing gave me more pleasure than to see Henry put him on his ass with that swift left hook of his.

Lennox Lewis is as British as Greg Rudeski. ;D

What about Lenny "Mean Machine" McLean? I think he could have knocked out a couple of those fuckers listed.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_sI0Ik36ap8...h/LENNNYYY.jpg

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Originally Posted by Master

Lennox Lewis is as British as Greg Rudeski. ;D

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Lennox Lewis is as British as Greg Rudeski. ;D

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Remember we adopted Greg Rudeski who was Canadian as British because we wanted a Wimbledon winner and knew that Tim would never do it?

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Lennox Lewis is as British as Greg Rudeski. ;D

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Remember we adopted Greg Rudeski who was Canadian as British because we wanted a Wimbledon winner and knew that Tim would never do it?

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Greg was born in Canada. Lennox was born in England.
Also, Tim made 4 Wimbledon Semi finals, Greg made 0.

Yeah, and last month at the Boston Marathon, the Yank commentators and Yank media kept harping on about the 1st American to win at Boston in over 30 years, Meb Keflezighi !

Dude's from eastern Africa, the country of Eritrea right beside Ethiopia, and his family emigrated to the USA when Meb was 12 years old.
If Meb f*<ks up somehow, I guarantee the same media will ostracize him, no longer proclaim he's American, and label him an immigrant from Eritria.

The colony known as Canada pulled that same bull$#!t on Ben Johnson in 1988. He won Olympic Gold, so Canadian media were all about the "World's Fastest Man is Canadian Ben Johnson", "Canada wins Olympic Gold." When the scandal broke the next day, suddenly headlines across Canada were "Jamaican Immigrant Ben Johnson tests positive for steroids", "Jamaican stripped of Gold Medal".

Typical...

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Originally Posted by Master

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Lennox Lewis is as British as Greg Rudeski. ;D

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Remember we adopted Greg Rudeski who was Canadian as British because we wanted a Wimbledon winner and knew that Tim would never do it?

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Greg was born in Canada. Lennox was born in England.
Also, Tim made 4 Wimbledon Semi finals, Greg made 0.

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Yes that is why he stayed Canadian because he was a loser unlike Lennox.

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Originally Posted by bradlee180

The colony known as Canada pulled that same bull$#!t on Ben Johnson in 1988. He won Olympic Gold, so Canadian media were all about the "World's Fastest Man is Canadian Ben Johnson", "Canada wins Olympic Gold." When the scandal broke the next day, suddenly headlines across Canada were "Jamaican Immigrant Ben Johnson tests positive for steroids", "Jamaican stripped of Gold Medal".

Typical...

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You gotta know who you want on your team.

Michael Jackson was a white guy when he was touching little kids, but black people took him back when he died and everyone forgave him.

Open thread see first option, obvious troll thread

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Originally Posted by Master

Lennox Lewis is as British as Greg Rudeski. ;D

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Explain ?

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Remember we adopted Greg Rudeski who was Canadian as British because we wanted a Wimbledon winner and knew that Tim would never do it?

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Greg was born in Canada. Lennox was born in England.
Also, Tim made 4 Wimbledon Semi finals, Greg made 0.

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good tennis knowledge

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Originally Posted by Master

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Lennox Lewis is as British as Greg Rudeski. ;D

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Explain ?

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Remember we adopted Greg Rudeski who was Canadian as British because we wanted a Wimbledon winner and knew that Tim would never do it?

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Greg was born in Canada. Lennox was born in England.
Also, Tim made 4 Wimbledon Semi finals, Greg made 0.

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good tennis knowledge

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Mate, I'm Rainman when it comes to sports stats. Except Boxing. ;)

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Originally Posted by Master

Lennox Lewis is as British as Greg Rudeski. ;D

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Explain ?

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Remember we adopted Greg Rudeski who was Canadian as British because we wanted a Wimbledon winner and knew that Tim would never do it?

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Greg was born in Canada. Lennox was born in England.
Also, Tim made 4 Wimbledon Semi finals, Greg made 0.

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good tennis knowledge

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Mate, I'm Rainman when it comes to sports stats. Except Boxing. ;)

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im not into tennis, not really a spectators sport if you ask me

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Lennox Lewis is as British as Greg Rudeski. ;D

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Explain ?

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Remember we adopted Greg Rudeski who was Canadian as British because we wanted a Wimbledon winner and knew that Tim would never do it?

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Greg was born in Canada. Lennox was born in England.
Also, Tim made 4 Wimbledon Semi finals, Greg made 0.

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good tennis knowledge

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Mate, I'm Rainman when it comes to sports stats. Except Boxing. ;)

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Or football now after I beat and humiliated you.

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Lennox Lewis is as British as Greg Rudeski. ;D

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Explain ?

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Remember we adopted Greg Rudeski who was Canadian as British because we wanted a Wimbledon winner and knew that Tim would never do it?

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Greg was born in Canada. Lennox was born in England.
Also, Tim made 4 Wimbledon Semi finals, Greg made 0.

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good tennis knowledge

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Mate, I'm Rainman when it comes to sports stats. Except Boxing. ;)

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im not into tennis, not really a spectators sport if you ask me

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Worryingly enough, I could draw quite a few parallels between boxing and tennis.:-\

Although, having said that, they are the sane parallels that help me appreciate tennis :rolleyes: