Well even if they did it wouldn't matter because everyone sucks now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Especially when they do not fight the best fighters in their division.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
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Well even if they did it wouldn't matter because everyone sucks now.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterEspecially when they do not fight the best fighters in their division.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
But it would help a little. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerWell even if they did it wouldn't matter because everyone sucks now.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterEspecially when they do not fight the best fighters in their division.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
I would say the division right now is pretty weak compared to the 80's and the 90's don't you think. If the comp was still at that level i don't think pac even goes to welter and Mawyeather loses his 0. This division not shit but it sure is not stacked like it used to be it seems but oh well.
80s and 90s, even Floyd wouldn't go to welter. Hearns Duran Leonard Pryor benitez. Floyd would get KTFO with their power.
Master and Abelardus
Sergio would be the one stuttering if they asked that old fag about fighting Ward.
You see how fast GG's ugly ass nutted up.;D
Strange how Mayweather is the only guy you haters want to see constantly move up.
Wrong again were asking Floyd to fight GGG or Sergio at 154. Weights he fights at alreadyQuote:
Originally Posted by cyclone
When did I say I want mayweather to move up?Quote:
Originally Posted by cyclone
Who do you want to see Floyd fight? Devon, Thurman and Porter?Quote:
Originally Posted by cyclone
I honesty don't think he needs to prove anymore then he already has... The man is a legend!
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Act1107
Thurman, Pac Man, Segio/GGG would enhance it for sure.
@Master.. Yeah we'll anyone he beats now will only be an enhancement in his career, especially if fights and beats an upcoming star like Thurman, but does he need these guys to solidify his career?? I would also like to add, GGG has an impressive looking record,,. But has he really fought any big opponent? I like Thurman's resume better!
I think Floyd should challenge and beat Anthony Pettis and Jose Aldo in the UFC, that would prove he is the ultimate champion of champions.
A win over Danny Garcia would look good, if he does well at WW.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterReally?Quote:
Originally Posted by Act1107
Thurman, Pac Man, Segio/GGG would enhance it for sure.
If Floyd beats Garcia, that will be TWO young guns who could do great things after losing to him. Hell, Garcia's already pretty accomplished. He's almost cleaned out 140.
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Originally Posted by ykdadamajaFloyd's legacy is sealed- even if he doesn't fight Pac. But, not fighting Pac put him out of the top 5 best EVER in the world conversation. He is in the top 20 best ever discussion, for sure. Which is nothing to snicker about.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
I rate SRL, Chavez Jr., Ali, Roy Jones and Ray Robinson ahead of him on any day....
An argument can be made for Hopkins, Tyson, Lennox, Louis, Hagler, Hearns being ahead of him too.
I am sure you meant Chavez Sr as opposed to Jr. Sorry for being a smart ass. Just had to comment as I was very confused for a moment.;D
Gimme a freaking break, you'll be saying Mayweather should be fighting Klitschko nextQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Floyd started at Super feather but you think should fighter against a natural born super middleweight.
Golovkin has not done nothing to deserve shot at Mayweather. He has not proved he's the best in his division, and you think that's make him a legit contender for one the best fighters ever ?
Golovkin fight Canelo, Martnez, Chavez Jnr, or fight the winner of Froch - Groves, see how he get's on
All the fighters you chose all got beat in there primeQuote:
Originally Posted by frasdI am sure you meant Chavez Sr as opposed to Jr. Sorry for being a smart ass. Just had to comment as I was very confused for a moment.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaFloyd's legacy is sealed- even if he doesn't fight Pac. But, not fighting Pac put him out of the top 5 best EVER in the world conversation. He is in the top 20 best ever discussion, for sure. Which is nothing to snicker about.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
I rate SRL, Chavez Jr., Ali, Roy Jones and Ray Robinson ahead of him on any day....
An argument can be made for Hopkins, Tyson, Lennox, Louis, Hagler, Hearns being ahead of him too.
SRL was beaten by Duran, Hearns should have beaten SRL in their first match and he was unlucky to a get draw in their second match. To be honest I think SRL dines out to much on his victory against Hagler. I don't think you can ignore his embarssing defeats to Terry Norris and Camachoo either
Chavez, mayweather beats him all day, Flat footed, come straight forward Mexican ? 120-108 Mayweather
Tyson, again beaten in his prime and like RJJ ended his career with embarssing loses. Lennox Lewis, like Tyson destroyed in his prime by average fighters.
As for others I agree. Hagler, was a great fighter. Same with Louis.
Ray Robinson looks amazing on the videos on youtube, but like Louis before my time
I think Hearns would give FM the most problems
But I think FM beats pretty much everyone on your list, bar Robinson and Hearns
Beanflicker was joking.Quote:
Originally Posted by denilson200Gimme a freaking break, you'll be saying Mayweather should be fighting Klitschko nextQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Floyd started at Super feather but you think should fighter against a natural born super middleweight.
Golovkin has not done nothing to deserve shot at Mayweather. He has not proved he's the best in his division, and you think that's make him a legit contender for one the best fighters ever ?
Golovkin fight Canelo, Martnez, Chavez Jnr, or fight the winner of Froch - Groves, see how he get's on
No he hasnt. He is not a cash cow like Mayweather. Everyone wants to fight Floyd. Noone wants GGGQuote:
Originally Posted by Act1107
Unfortunatlely Foyd has never got in with the calibre of Hagler, Hearns or Duran so we really dont know how he would fair against them,Quote:
Originally Posted by denilson200All the fighters you chose all got beat in there primeQuote:
Originally Posted by frasdI am sure you meant Chavez Sr as opposed to Jr. Sorry for being a smart ass. Just had to comment as I was very confused for a moment.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaFloyd's legacy is sealed- even if he doesn't fight Pac. But, not fighting Pac put him out of the top 5 best EVER in the world conversation. He is in the top 20 best ever discussion, for sure. Which is nothing to snicker about.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
I rate SRL, Chavez Jr., Ali, Roy Jones and Ray Robinson ahead of him on any day....
An argument can be made for Hopkins, Tyson, Lennox, Louis, Hagler, Hearns being ahead of him too.
SRL was beaten by Duran, Hearns should have beaten SRL in their first match and he was unlucky to a get draw in their second match. To be honest I think SRL dines out to much on his victory against Hagler. I don't think you can ignore his embarssing defeats to Terry Norris and Camachoo either
Chavez, mayweather beats him all day, Flat footed, come straight forward Mexican ? 120-108 Mayweather
Tyson, again beaten in his prime and like RJJ ended his career with embarssing loses. Lennox Lewis, like Tyson destroyed in his prime by average fighters.
As for others I agree. Hagler, was a great fighter. Same with Louis.
Ray Robinson looks amazing on the videos on youtube, but like Louis before my time
I think Hearns would give FM the most problems
But I think FM beats pretty much everyone on your list, bar Robinson and Hearns
Why don't UFC guys ever fight in Boxing ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Why is always Boxers who have to come over to UFC ?
Boxer are better than UFC fighters
Why ?
It's possible for a Top Boxer to beat a Top UFC fighter in a cage but it is impossible for a Top UFC fighter to beat a Top Boxer in a ring.
It seems like people are just putting up chalenges that FM has no chance of winning. People will be saying Floyd should a Grizzly Bear next
Floyd beats the beat the bear "Ok...Ok...OK...let's see if you can fight three Lions with your hands tied behind back"
"Ha.Ha....look you ain't shit, you think your so bad but you won't take on that challenge"
Fact is bar Sugar Ray Robinson, Floyd beats them all. Ray Leonard, Hagler, Ali, Thomas Hearns, Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Larry Holmes, Joe Louis, Henry Armstrong, Roberto Duran, Tyson, Sandy Sadler, Will Pep, Gene Tunney, Ezzard Charles, Liston, Floyd Patterson, Jack Dempsey, Jack Johnson, Salvador Sanchez, Carlos Monzon, Roy Jones, Bernard Hopkins, James Toney, Joe Calzaghe, Pernell Whittaker, Julio Ceaser Chavez, Aaron Prioyr, Rocky Marciano, Eubank, Benn, Azumah Nelson, Jake Le Motta
FLOYD BEATS THEM ALL
And beats them with no controversy too
Look at all the great fighters and most got beat in their prime. FM has not been close to get beaten
NO
Maidana or Castillo were not close to beating him
Floyd is second only to Ray Robinson
People have to stop being silly and putting up silly challenges
He already went up in weight and gave a masterclass to someone bigger, younger and stronger (Canelo) and yet people want Floyd to go to middle weight to fight GG (A guy who has not done enough to earn the rep he has) or even further up and fight Ward
Should Floyd just concede every advantage and they concede none ?
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Originally Posted by AbelardusThis would probably be the only fight in cottos career that he's taken advantage of something like that. But he 5'6 going to 160/159 he's small for 154 he's a dwarf at 160. So in reality it's also Martinez taking advantage of cottos courage wouldn't you say? He's picking on the little guy. So I don't see how cotto is taking advantage of him. Mayweather could fight Martinez or JCC could rematch him or GGG or canelo could but no one else is taking the risk cotto is taking. How is cotto a bitch? I hope cotto sparks Martinez and lands a mayweather rematch. That would be wonderful.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterLet's not get over dramatic. Cotto is fighting at middleweight, against the champion and is the under dog going into the fight. Respect. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerBullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterRespect Cotto for taking the dangerous fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
He's fighting a 39 year old champ who, while once an amazing talent, has been plagued with knee injuries over the last few years, hasn't fought in over a year and looked like he had declined considerably in his last outing.
Cotto is trying to take advantage of a once great champ who (seemingly) is ripe for the picking. And what's more, he wouldn't even fight him at his weight class.
I hope he gets sparked.
Good post and I agree. But why let facts get in the way of hate?
For the record, I'm also a big Martinez fan and have the utmost respect. But people have a way of conveniently skewing the facts and ignoring everything else. Cotto was small for 154. He's now challenging a totally recuperated Martinez at 160 (fuck the 1-lb catchweight non-issue... it's not like every fighter and their brother don't play around with weights). It's an uphill battle all the way. But somehow Cotto is taking advantage of Martinez??
If Floyd fought the winner of Martinez-Cotto and won, where would you rank him all time?
I think Floyd would be favored over everyone from 130 to 154.
He is. Hes head and shoulders ahead of them. If Lara schools Alvarez, do you think Floyd would foght Lara? Given Lara is quite low profile and his style would prob make for a dull fight, even for a Mayweather fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by VG_Addict