I will be totally honest , I don't like Fury at all , however for a late replacement this is a live opponent , so good for him taking this fight.
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I will be totally honest , I don't like Fury at all , however for a late replacement this is a live opponent , so good for him taking this fight.
Hes a very dangerous opponent. About 6" taller than Chisora.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Was watching clips of him and he has quite fast hands and likes a scrap. Hes also fairly tough. This is a harder fight for Tyson than Chisora but hes a man and a fighter and doesnt run from a fight like Haye and Chisora, this is why I do not understand the comstant criticism of him.
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Originally Posted by rossHes a very dangerous opponent. About 6" taller than Chisora.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Was watching clips of him and he has quite fast hands and likes a scrap. Hes also fairly tough. This is a harder fight for Tyson than Chisora but hes a man and a fighter and doesnt run from a fight like Haye and Chisora, this is why I do not understand the comstant criticism of him.
fury gets criticised because hes a bit of a nob
I reiterate tho that I like what he is trying to do in general even if he is a bit nobbish about it
theres a very good case for saying Ustinov has a better record than fury does, and has beaten a better quality of fighter
this is definitely a tough fight and, depending on the shape Ustinov is in, its a massive risk
did you know there is a race horse called Ustinov's Fury?
Decent last minute replacement but Ustinov is the ultimate plodder. Good matchup for Fury.
if this fight happens, whether we like it or not , we have to give credit to not only Fury, but also Frank Warren for finding a live, and in my view dangerous opponent at such late notice. See what happens Saturday now.
There are quite a few common opponents between Pulev and Fury now.
Being one of the sparring partners for Chisora's build up for Fury it makes sense as he has been training with Derek. This should have fireworks for the distance it will last. I fancy Fury to stop him though around the 7/8th
One of the things I like about Fury, he wants to fight, likes to fight, and has confidence to spare.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossHes a very dangerous opponent. About 6" taller than Chisora.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Was watching clips of him and he has quite fast hands and likes a scrap. Hes also fairly tough. This is a harder fight for Tyson than Chisora but hes a man and a fighter and doesnt run from a fight like Haye and Chisora, this is why I do not understand the comstant criticism of him.
Good luck to Fury for taking another opponent and good luck to Ustinov for fighting on short notice.
IF THE FIGHT HAPPENS!
Edit : Didn't read the posts above, here I was announcing the death of the pope.
Good replacement.
Ustinov is 4-1 to win? what a bet that is
I don't really rate fury that highly, hes a decent fighter but I don't think hes that good
if he wins good on Saturday then it may well change my mind
How good or dangerous do you think Ustinov is?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
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Originally Posted by rossHow good or dangerous do you think Ustinov is?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
granted, ive only seen him in action a hand full of times, people are calling him a plodder, I think hes a step up from that, but I could be wrong
but I definitely think he is better than anything fury has fought before by a long way, and he has a good record, significantly better than furys
4-1 is big on a 2 horse race this close
Pulev jabbed his head off, it was a very good performance from him, id like to see fury using the jab
I dont think he is significantly better but I dont think hes a plodder.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by rossHow good or dangerous do you think Ustinov is?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
granted, ive only seen him in action a hand full of times, people are calling him a plodder, I think hes a step up from that, but I could be wrong
but I definitely think he is better than anything fury has fought before by a long way, and he has a good record, significantly better than furys
4-1 is big on a 2 horse race this close
Pulev jabbed his head off, it was a very good performance from him, id like to see fury using the jab
Hes 24lb lighter now than when he fought Pulev and has just spent a few weeks in camp sparring Chisora so will be fit, maybe fitter than when he faced Pulev. I thought he looked very co ordinated for a huge man and quick. Not sure how big a puncher he is but hes going to hurt regardless when he lands. Also, if Tua can still punch then he takes a good shot too.
The fact he did take shots from Tua though whos only 5,9" and shot doesnt bode well for his defence or skills and Tyson may well just have a show case performance with a tailor made opponent.
Its still a massive risk and one that Tyson should be applauded for taking. Its not a Martin Rogan level opponent, its a genuine risk and tougher fight than the original.
Ustinov is all about the 1-2.
If he throws a 1, he's gonna follow up with a 2.
If he misses the 2, he'll look for another 1 - It's a clumsy 1-2 but the 2 seems fairly heavy... Certainly heavy enough to put a dent in Fury, who will either need good head movement or fast feet to keep fresh.
I'm actually a little worried for Fury, as Ustinov also has a very good chin. He'll be in for the long haul.
Obviously Fury is more of a versatile puncher and a more adaptable fighter than Ustinov but the lingering threat of a very heavy right hand (given Fury's likelyhood of not maintaining ring generalship) will be a constant, plus Ustinov does his own fair share of holding so Fury is not gonna have this fight his own way.
Don't get me wrong, Ustinov's slowish hands and tendency to telegraph the right-hand means he could get jabbed/ hooked to death but still, I might have to look at the odds on this one :cool:
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Originally Posted by rossI dont think he is significantly better but I dont think hes a plodder.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by rossHow good or dangerous do you think Ustinov is?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
granted, ive only seen him in action a hand full of times, people are calling him a plodder, I think hes a step up from that, but I could be wrong
but I definitely think he is better than anything fury has fought before by a long way, and he has a good record, significantly better than furys
4-1 is big on a 2 horse race this close
Pulev jabbed his head off, it was a very good performance from him, id like to see fury using the jab
Hes 24lb lighter now than when he fought Pulev and has just spent a few weeks in camp sparring Chisora so will be fit, maybe fitter than when he faced Pulev. I thought he looked very co ordinated for a huge man and quick. Not sure how big a puncher he is but hes going to hurt regardless when he lands. Also, if Tua can still punch then he takes a good shot too.
The fact he did take shots from Tua though whos only 5,9" and shot doesnt bode well for his defence or skills and Tyson may well just have a show case performance with a tailor made opponent.
Its still a massive risk and one that Tyson should be applauded for taking. Its not a Martin Rogan level opponent, its a genuine risk and tougher fight than the original.
I agree, well done fury, he obviously has balls and ambition
I saw martin rogan in Manchester about a month ago btw :) hes a big chap
Ustinov has a good chin, he quit against Pulev, respect to Fury for taking a tough last minute guy, but he will look good in this because he's so much quicker/mobile. Be interesting until the halfway stage.
Fury on points at 3/1 looks a great bet to me. Change to 10 rounds now.
Frank Warren is still a cunt.
I do not see this going to the score cards.
Fury TKO, disappointed that the fight is not happening against Chisora, but that is life.
fury will knock this big stiff idiot out!!!!!!;D
I hate fighting :confused:
So Fury has pulled out.
By his standards we should accuse him of faking his Uncle's illness.
Absolutely. Fake or not there's nothing wrong with Tyson. He should fight. Maybe Ustinov takes to twitter to call him all the cunts under the sun.
He wont, because it's out of order and Ustinov's probably not a dick head.
He's scared to fight somebody that he doesn't hold a considerable height and weight advantage over.
Most of what he's done in boxing has been helped by him being an oversized lummox, nothing to do with athleticism or skill...
Yes by fury's own rules , his uncle is faking it going to hospital.
Didn't Buster Douglas fight Tyson after losing his dad ? and of course used that to drive him to victory.
I have said it before and will say it again , lets talk fury when he actually does something in the ring.
We can always settle on this wobbly slow short bus jumping over much smaller cars. One in the same eh
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xeJQF4-jYcY