...and of course, there is no such thing as god of wrath. Wrath, hatred is human emotion, a bestial one at that. How can God act like a beast...Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre
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...and of course, there is no such thing as god of wrath. Wrath, hatred is human emotion, a bestial one at that. How can God act like a beast...Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre
What are you talking about, pacman Is God!..Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTraeI didn't get a chance to reply to your home territory- the land of Pac- for the record. I admit frustration on Pac's part that he is with Arum. Man Pac is the shiznick! I feel that he brings his A game to the table-But Arum IMO has stood in the way .Quote:
Originally Posted by pacfanI know because I've debated with many of them even here in the Philippines.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTrae
.;D:)
But a man who understand's there is a God usually presents some form of humility-to which Pac exhibits.
I know when he does get inducted to the HOF, I will be there.
He had the power as a skinny runt, so that will always be a no-brainer to me. His power is natural.
Or...a gift from....:rolleyes:
Yeah its great ;D.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTraeI wouldn't doubt it one bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre
But ya' had to have had a good laugh on the youtube clip!
I recon the trouble occurred when the alchemists,the astronomers and high priest in the ancient worlds all realized that everything is connected by an un seen energy that literally moves through everything a vibration ~ sound etc manifesting material out of love and light energies.
They had to put it in human terms to educate the dumb humans in terms they may understand at the time. Like father,mother,son etc.Its was the only way,you could not talk sacred geometry to them.
I think you will find the real ancients knew more than the latter period rulers were ever letting on, when mankind had a dumbing down of the masses by the later rulers everything went excuse the term (to the devil).
The burning of the Library of Alexandria was a massive turning point there. Rome also liked to destroy all prior knowledge before it and latter even took over a loving forgiving religion and started persecuting those within it; then made all their own rules up after taking it over by force. Then through fear and judgment went about destroying the unconditional forgiveness and love message that was meant to be passed through to all mankind.
They Rome ,removed all Christian scripture that states reincarnation. They want you to think you have only one shot at this (so they have control over their masses and cash and lands on your departure) but what they tell you, is not true.
I was not making a tit for tat statement or trying to say everyone does it, simply replying to the thread in my own way. I can only really speak on Catholicism, I have read much on other religions but I don't consider myself knowledgeable enough to point out much of their historical wrongs. I am not blind to the fact that faith I practice had lost its way at points throughout history however, that seems to be what people who are not Catholic focus on. The Catholic Church is the largest provider of humanitarian services in the world. It has brought us many great people, St. Augustin of Hippo, Theresa of Calcutta and many others who sacrificed their lives to try to improve things as best they could. Over its 2000 year history I believe the Church has brought us more beauty than fault. Those who committed crimes were not practicing the faith and had strayed from its teachings. I was just saying many people think religion has been the greatest force of harm in history, I don't believe that to be true.
Being the official Saddo Spiritual leader I have great respect for all religions and don't look at any of them as bad, even Bahai, I also maintain respect for the atheists as they themselves have their own religion. Religion, simply put, is any system of belief. Thank you, peace and all good things.
Yep every Church and mosque etc are exactly the same as the rest of the world, good and evil people exist within them. The governments and the hierarchy of religions have alot more in common with each other than us peasants though. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
Agreed. Most people in religions are usually beautiful individuals seeking guidance, etc. (you know my position on most leaders) And You also provided the other side to the equation. I was just all too happy to go on a tirade about the negative side. You & Pacfan balanced it.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
I find it absolutely astonishing how the Egyptians, Celts, Mayans and many other early cultures developed such accurate astronomy. The Mayans could Calender astronomical events that came about once every twenty thousand years. Stonehenge and the pyramids are such accurate calendars it leaves me in awe. I can't even figure out which way is north if I'm walking around.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreYeah its great ;D.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTraeI wouldn't doubt it one bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre
But ya' had to have had a good laugh on the youtube clip!
I recon the trouble occurred when the alchemists,the astronomers and high priest in the ancient worlds all realized that everything is connected by an un seen energy that literally moves through everything a vibration ~ sound etc manifesting material out of love and light energies.
They had to put it in human terms to educate the dumb humans in terms they may understand at the time. Like father,mother,son etc.Its was the only way,you could not talk sacred geometry to them.
I think you will find the real ancients knew more than the latter period rulers were ever letting on, when mankind had a dumbing down of the masses by the later rulers everything went excuse the term (to the devil).
The burning of the Library of Alexandria was a massive turning point there. Rome also liked to destroy all prior knowledge before it and latter even took over a loving forgiving religion and started persecuting those within it; then made all their own rules up after taking it over by force. Then through fear and judgment went about destroying the unconditional forgiveness and love message that was meant to be passed through to all mankind.
They Rome ,removed all Christian scripture that states reincarnation. They want you to think you have only one shot at this (so they have control over their masses and cash and lands on your departure) but what they tell you, is not true.
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Originally Posted by walrusI find it absolutely astonishing how the Egyptians, Celts, Mayans and many other early cultures developed such accurate astronomy. The Mayans could Calender astronomical events that came about once every twenty thousand years. Stonehenge and the pyramids are such accurate calendars it leaves me in awe. I can't even figure out which way is north if I'm walking around.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreYeah its great ;D.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTraeI wouldn't doubt it one bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre
But ya' had to have had a good laugh on the youtube clip!
I recon the trouble occurred when the alchemists,the astronomers and high priest in the ancient worlds all realized that everything is connected by an un seen energy that literally moves through everything a vibration ~ sound etc manifesting material out of love and light energies.
They had to put it in human terms to educate the dumb humans in terms they may understand at the time. Like father,mother,son etc.Its was the only way,you could not talk sacred geometry to them.
I think you will find the real ancients knew more than the latter period rulers were ever letting on, when mankind had a dumbing down of the masses by the later rulers everything went excuse the term (to the devil).
The burning of the Library of Alexandria was a massive turning point there. Rome also liked to destroy all prior knowledge before it and latter even took over a loving forgiving religion and started persecuting those within it; then made all their own rules up after taking it over by force. Then through fear and judgment went about destroying the unconditional forgiveness and love message that was meant to be passed through to all mankind.
They Rome ,removed all Christian scripture that states reincarnation. They want you to think you have only one shot at this (so they have control over their masses and cash and lands on your departure) but what they tell you, is not true.
Yeah the pyramids line up with the heavens as do other sacred buildings in comparison like Chartres and Rosslyn. Other sites in some countries are natural. Massive rock like here or the most sacred of all mountains like Tibet all serve the same purpose.
Amazing to think the great pyramids once had a covering of white render with their top caps in pure gold because it is the best conductor and transmitter of frequency.
Eternal Mind sent Electric Thoughts to selfless seers. We have lost the messages. There will be a price to pay. And I ain't talking bout organized opium for the people. I'm talking pure electric thoughts sent by Eternal Mind.
Gone are the days of those who taught in the Temple of Luxor, Temple of Karnak, Temple of Hatchepsut.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Teaching body, mind, soul, academia and cosmos.
Now that divine wisdom is taught in universities and colleges..for a nominal fee; if you're accepted, then it's a damn community college for the masses.
Thus IMO replacing the Temples with a small brick house called the church consisting of a collection plate, choir and a tamborine.
Then wonder why we leave church still hungry for mental and spiritual nourishment.
I thought you were stating a Hendrix lyric for a minute and goggled the first line.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Led me here, interesting too:
Unit 5. The Power of Life
Agreed. In Eshnoona (Sumer) there were schools that explored mental energies on copper wires, and some scientists in Lagash (Ur) were able to construct low-voltage batteries. (the rest is from Wikipedia haha ) The Sumerians are perhaps remembered most for their many inventions. Many authorities credit them with the invention of the wheel and the potter's wheel. Their cuneiform writing system was the first we have evidence of (with the possible exception of the highly controversial Old European Script), pre-dating Egyptian hieroglyphics by at least seventy five years.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTraeGone are the days of those who taught in the Temple of Luxor, Temple of Karnak, Temple of Hatchepsut.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Teaching body, mind, soul, academia and cosmos.
Now that divine wisdom is taught in universities and colleges..for a nominal fee; if you're accepted, then it's a damn community college for the masses.
Thus IMO replacing the Temples with a small brick house called the church consisting of a collection plate, choir and a tamborine.
Then wonder why we leave church still hungry for mental and spiritual nourishment.
They were among the first formal astronomers.
They came up with the concept of dividing the hour into 60 minutes and the minute into 60 seconds.
They may have invented military formations.
The Sumerians ushered in the age of intensive agriculturalism in Ancient Mesopotamia. Einkorn and Emmer wheat, barley, sheep (starting as mouflon) and cattle (starting as aurochs) were foremost among the species cultivated and raised for the first time on a grand scale. These inventions and innovations easily place the Sumerians among the most creative cultures in human pre-history and history. Sumerian scientific achievements were important to the modern world.
You know those massive rocks that the ancient Peruvians built their temples from. The Sun temple I think it is has copper tie rods from one rock to the other so the whole place is linked energetically. They originally thought it was to bond the rocks together like we do in stonemasonry with drill holes traces and cramps, but then figured the rocks were such a weight that if movement did occur the copper could not hold them any way so its thought they grounded their buildings.It appears they could use electro magnetic energies from themselves to turn some of the rock composition into helium softening the rock and making it lighter for a short while.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustAgreed. In Eshnoona (Sumer) there were schools that explored mental energies on copper wires, and some scientists in Lagash (Ur) were able to construct low-voltage batteries. (the rest is from Wikipedia haha ) The Sumerians are perhaps remembered most for their many inventions. Many authorities credit them with the invention of the wheel and the potter's wheel. Their cuneiform writing system was the first we have evidence of (with the possible exception of the highly controversial Old European Script), pre-dating Egyptian hieroglyphics by at least seventy five years.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTraeGone are the days of those who taught in the Temple of Luxor, Temple of Karnak, Temple of Hatchepsut.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Teaching body, mind, soul, academia and cosmos.
Now that divine wisdom is taught in universities and colleges..for a nominal fee; if you're accepted, then it's a damn community college for the masses.
Thus IMO replacing the Temples with a small brick house called the church consisting of a collection plate, choir and a tamborine.
Then wonder why we leave church still hungry for mental and spiritual nourishment.
They were among the first formal astronomers.
They came up with the concept of dividing the hour into 60 minutes and the minute into 60 seconds.
They may have invented military formations.
The Sumerians ushered in the age of intensive agriculturalism in Ancient Mesopotamia. Einkorn and Emmer wheat, barley, sheep (starting as mouflon) and cattle (starting as aurochs) were foremost among the species cultivated and raised for the first time on a grand scale. These inventions and innovations easily place the Sumerians among the most creative cultures in human pre-history and history. Sumerian scientific achievements were important to the modern world.
The man who built this for instance: Sound, vibration, electromagnetic, energies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o15_DQUm94s
We interrupt this program with a short humorous break.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5KDTw_OQ1Y#t=55
That is fascinating and makes sense. The metals in our body like copper and gold must be conductors at the synaptic level in our brains. We could receive signals. I think the materials on earth and therefore within us are sufficient for us to find s way to immortality. Earth is a self*contained system and we have what we need here. To find every answer. Within and not without. @Andre what do you think?Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreYou know those massive rocks that the ancient Peruvians built their temples from. The Sun temple I think it is has copper tie rods from one rock to the other so the whole place is linked energetically. They originally thought it was to bond the rocks together like we do in stonemasonry with drill holes traces and cramps, but then figured the rocks were such a weight that if movement did occur the copper could not hold them any way so its thought they grounded their buildings.It appears they could use electro magnetic energies from themselves to turn some of the rock composition into helium softening the rock and making it lighter for a short while.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustAgreed. In Eshnoona (Sumer) there were schools that explored mental energies on copper wires, and some scientists in Lagash (Ur) were able to construct low-voltage batteries. (the rest is from Wikipedia haha ) The Sumerians are perhaps remembered most for their many inventions. Many authorities credit them with the invention of the wheel and the potter's wheel. Their cuneiform writing system was the first we have evidence of (with the possible exception of the highly controversial Old European Script), pre-dating Egyptian hieroglyphics by at least seventy five years.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTraeGone are the days of those who taught in the Temple of Luxor, Temple of Karnak, Temple of Hatchepsut.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Teaching body, mind, soul, academia and cosmos.
Now that divine wisdom is taught in universities and colleges..for a nominal fee; if you're accepted, then it's a damn community college for the masses.
Thus IMO replacing the Temples with a small brick house called the church consisting of a collection plate, choir and a tamborine.
Then wonder why we leave church still hungry for mental and spiritual nourishment.
They were among the first formal astronomers.
They came up with the concept of dividing the hour into 60 minutes and the minute into 60 seconds.
They may have invented military formations.
The Sumerians ushered in the age of intensive agriculturalism in Ancient Mesopotamia. Einkorn and Emmer wheat, barley, sheep (starting as mouflon) and cattle (starting as aurochs) were foremost among the species cultivated and raised for the first time on a grand scale. These inventions and innovations easily place the Sumerians among the most creative cultures in human pre-history and history. Sumerian scientific achievements were important to the modern world.
The man who built this for instance: Sound, vibration, electromagnetic, energies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o15_DQUm94s
Look up white gold (the powder). It forms a couple of ways.One through alchemy, one through a natural process.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustThat is fascinating and makes sense. The metals in our body like copper and gold must be conductors at the synaptic level in our brains. We could receive signals. I think the materials on earth and therefore within us are sufficient for us to find s way to immortality. Earth is a self*contained system and we have what we need here. To find every answer. Within and not without. @Andre what do you think?Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreYou know those massive rocks that the ancient Peruvians built their temples from. The Sun temple I think it is has copper tie rods from one rock to the other so the whole place is linked energetically. They originally thought it was to bond the rocks together like we do in stonemasonry with drill holes traces and cramps, but then figured the rocks were such a weight that if movement did occur the copper could not hold them any way so its thought they grounded their buildings.It appears they could use electro magnetic energies from themselves to turn some of the rock composition into helium softening the rock and making it lighter for a short while.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustAgreed. In Eshnoona (Sumer) there were schools that explored mental energies on copper wires, and some scientists in Lagash (Ur) were able to construct low-voltage batteries. (the rest is from Wikipedia haha ) The Sumerians are perhaps remembered most for their many inventions. Many authorities credit them with the invention of the wheel and the potter's wheel. Their cuneiform writing system was the first we have evidence of (with the possible exception of the highly controversial Old European Script), pre-dating Egyptian hieroglyphics by at least seventy five years.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTraeGone are the days of those who taught in the Temple of Luxor, Temple of Karnak, Temple of Hatchepsut.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Teaching body, mind, soul, academia and cosmos.
Now that divine wisdom is taught in universities and colleges..for a nominal fee; if you're accepted, then it's a damn community college for the masses.
Thus IMO replacing the Temples with a small brick house called the church consisting of a collection plate, choir and a tamborine.
Then wonder why we leave church still hungry for mental and spiritual nourishment.
They were among the first formal astronomers.
They came up with the concept of dividing the hour into 60 minutes and the minute into 60 seconds.
They may have invented military formations.
The Sumerians ushered in the age of intensive agriculturalism in Ancient Mesopotamia. Einkorn and Emmer wheat, barley, sheep (starting as mouflon) and cattle (starting as aurochs) were foremost among the species cultivated and raised for the first time on a grand scale. These inventions and innovations easily place the Sumerians among the most creative cultures in human pre-history and history. Sumerian scientific achievements were important to the modern world.
The man who built this for instance: Sound, vibration, electromagnetic, energies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o15_DQUm94s
By the second sentence I was thinking; Eshnoona? When If/when I go some rounds with this Brock cat, I got to be on it...then the wikipedia line..priceless! But Andre googling, some Jimi? snap!Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
My synopsis on religion had two sessions running Google & Bing!
Heavy stuff gents.
Talking about heavy stuff ;D
A modern Band speaking to the young and free of the human way forwards through awakening through the psychology of the shadow principle and through muscle memory meditations of the heart out into a supra consciousness state, then physically to dna growth and eventual pairs of 46 & 2. To truly awaken from the single self dream :).
As Bob M said: One Love.:cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tja6_h4lT6A&list=LLExSNo62ud8B3l3JonhTHgQ
Even scientifically it is accepted that energy goes on and can indeed transfer and transmute, but immortality, in the sense that most people think about it, is not possible. The ego, that which we call us, our personality is not real. It is merely a collection of experiences that inform our bodies and constructs the illusion that we are greater than we are. People want it all, they seek to imbue the energy within us a distinct character and want to believe in a human like soul with the characteristics that make us distinct individuals in life. It is as Buddha realised the cause of much pain, suffering and anguish. True nirvana is found at points by us all, even those who dismiss spirituality at points where we lose "ourselves". Whether that is at points where we lose ourselves in doing something really well that we love (art,music,sport) or in the ecstasy of life, devotion and love, it is freeing ourselves from physical bonds that reminds us of how bodies define and limit us.
Out of body experience is similar to here in the body though, simply without it and no barriers to distance either. I used to do it alot when young and got seen once by the person I intentionally visited.
Scared him a bit, he thought I was the spirit of a monk come to get him.
That was interesting reading these posts, I did not know you lot could be so intelligent and deep. I am impressed. :)
I am a bit more practical and do not believe in the mumbo jumbo about eternal life. I do think that maybe they did use electricity in the way you suggested to move and shape huge objects. They may even had TV and mobile phones.
Yeah, this could be called the "deep waters" thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Damn, you went poltergeist on us...;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Andre
If the universe is infinite, then anything you conceive of must exist eventually, since it is endless. If it is endless then you will eventually come across all things an infinite number of times. There will be an infinte number of Greenbeanz and an infinte number of Andre and an infinte number of Fenster. Then there will also be an infinte number of those people, for example, who live the exact same lives as they do, but with only one small variation in the sequence, for example on January 28, 2009, Andre had an omelette at 7:28 a.m., but in a parallel existence Andre had that very same omelette at 7:31 a.m. etc
I think theres twelve dimensions and a bit of contact between the ones each side with crossing over effects too,the last being only the creative force in its natural untouched state prior to it splitting then expanding into other dimensions. I think its up to you which way you head in your own spiritual evolution but I dont think you can jump from 1 to 4 or 3 to 5 the luggage you hold onto from this one stops you and protects the next one thats one removed from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
If the universe is infinite, then anything you conceive of must exist eventually, since it is endless. If it is endless then you will eventually come across all things an infinite number of times.
(things) would/could be based on our comprehension of what a/that thing is.
Agree or disagree?
In our state of being: the thought process perceives things by definiton as a noun-person, place or... thing.
So our limited senses in our world couldn't determine every thing- in terms of how they exist. IMO.
There will be an infinte number of Greenbeanz and an infinte number of Andre and an infinte number of Fenster.
Would Fenster or Andre exist with the same dimensions? Hearing, seeing, touching, feeling are senses. How energy transmits and infiltrates matter seems infinite--in the scheme of determining that which is infinite.
So if Andre had an omelette at 7:28 a.m., but in a parallel existence (another) Andre had that very same omelette at 7:31 --we'd (also) have to reflect on what time is...would we not?
Time for me is the acknowlegement of concisousness on a moving celestial body. When that body (planet) moves toward a ball of gas (star/sun) we acknowldege it as light calling it day. When it moves away, we call it darkness (night).
My point is, the size of that moving celestial body(planet) and the magnetism and gravity from that particular ball of fire-would then determine how fast/slow of the movement. So it would seem an infinite number of possibilites of determining the (time) that would occur, let alone if the dimensions would exist that allows two Andre's to be able to eat, taste, touch, or feel. Those are senses within our dimensions. What may take what we call 5 minutes to eat on our moving celestial body(earth) may take 222years on another moving celestial body.
So could there technically ever be two Andres or Greenbeans with the same senses?
Sinse the universe is so infinite- the chances of finding An Andre or Greenbeen could exist, but with the same dimensions would seem minute. Moving at the same rate, and having the same perception, also seems minute...like a snowflake. If no two are exactly alike on this tiny ass pebble of a planet, then what are the chances of an exact CARBON copy of you or me? Not saying I know, but swimming into deep waters with you bro..:cool:
You have made so many stimulating points that I cannot decide which one to respond to. To me (I will only address your last point here) infinity trumps all things since by definition it is endless. It never stops. And IMO as minutely probable as it would be (as you rightly indicated) to be able to come across a 99.99999765% exact replica of Hitler (only differing, say, in how many times Hitler blinked on April 29, 1945) I feel that since the universe (and there's ANOTHER issue---are there multiple universes?) Goes on forever (that is ALSO questionablquestionable) then if so, we would simply have to be ( thru the probability of an infinitely occurring sequence) replicated or resurrected (without getting religious here) over and over again, in varying degrees of exactitude: @Andre. On one May 23rd, 1913 in Oslo, Andre says "how perfumey are the blossoms", while on another IDENTICAL MAY 23, 1913 Andre says "how perfume-like are the blossoms", etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTraeQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
If the universe is infinite, then anything you conceive of must exist eventually, since it is endless. If it is endless then you will eventually come across all things an infinite number of times.
(things) would/could be based on our comprehension of what a/that thing is.
Agree or disagree?
In our state of being: the thought process perceives things by definiton as a noun-person, place or... thing.
So our limited senses in our world couldn't determine every thing- in terms of how they exist. IMO.
There will be an infinte number of Greenbeanz and an infinte number of Andre and an infinte number of Fenster.
Would Fenster or Andre exist with the same dimensions? Hearing, seeing, touching, feeling are senses. How energy transmits and infiltrates matter seems infinite--in the scheme of determining that which is infinite.
So if Andre had an omelette at 7:28 a.m., but in a parallel existence (another) Andre had that very same omelette at 7:31 --we'd (also) have to reflect on what time is...would we not?
Time for me is the acknowlegement of concisousness on a moving celestial body. When that body (planet) moves toward a ball of gas (star/sun) we acknowldege it as light calling it day. When it moves away, we call it darkness (night).
My point is, the size of that moving celestial body(planet) and the magnetism and gravity from that particular ball of fire-would then determine how fast/slow of the movement. So it would seem an infinite number of possibilites of determining the (time) that would occur, let alone if the dimensions would exist that allows two Andre's to be able to eat, taste, touch, or feel. Those are senses within our dimensions. What may take what we call 5 minutes to eat on our moving celestial body(earth) may take 222years on another moving celestial body.
So could there technically ever be two Andres or Greenbeans with the same senses?
Sinse the universe is so infinite- the chances of finding An Andre or Greenbeen could exist, but with the same dimensions would seem minute. Moving at the same rate, and having the same perception, also seems minute...like a snowflake. If no two are exactly alike on this tiny ass pebble of a planet, then what are the chances of an exact CARBON copy of you or me? Not saying I know, but swimming into deep waters with you bro..:cool:
Infinite is only the stupidity of pegans, at the end of the world,Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustYou have made so many stimulating points that I cannot decide which one to respond to. To me (I will only address your last point here) infinity trumps all things since by definition it is endless. It never stops. And IMO as minutely probable as it would be (as you rightly indicated) to be able to come across a 99.99999765% exact replica of Hitler (only differing, say, in how many times Hitler blinked on April 29, 1945) I feel that since the universe (and there's ANOTHER issue---are there multiple universes?) Goes on forever (that is ALSO questionablquestionable) then if so, we would simply have to be ( thru the probability of an infinitely occurring sequence) replicated or resurrected (without getting religious here) over and over again, in varying degrees of exactitude: @Andre. On one May 23rd, 1913 in Oslo, Andre says "how perfumey are the blossoms", while on another IDENTICAL MAY 23, 1913 Andre says "how perfume-like are the blossoms", etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTraeQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
If the universe is infinite, then anything you conceive of must exist eventually, since it is endless. If it is endless then you will eventually come across all things an infinite number of times.
(things) would/could be based on our comprehension of what a/that thing is.
Agree or disagree?
In our state of being: the thought process perceives things by definiton as a noun-person, place or... thing.
So our limited senses in our world couldn't determine every thing- in terms of how they exist. IMO.
There will be an infinte number of Greenbeanz and an infinte number of Andre and an infinte number of Fenster.
Would Fenster or Andre exist with the same dimensions? Hearing, seeing, touching, feeling are senses. How energy transmits and infiltrates matter seems infinite--in the scheme of determining that which is infinite.
So if Andre had an omelette at 7:28 a.m., but in a parallel existence (another) Andre had that very same omelette at 7:31 --we'd (also) have to reflect on what time is...would we not?
Time for me is the acknowlegement of concisousness on a moving celestial body. When that body (planet) moves toward a ball of gas (star/sun) we acknowldege it as light calling it day. When it moves away, we call it darkness (night).
My point is, the size of that moving celestial body(planet) and the magnetism and gravity from that particular ball of fire-would then determine how fast/slow of the movement. So it would seem an infinite number of possibilites of determining the (time) that would occur, let alone if the dimensions would exist that allows two Andre's to be able to eat, taste, touch, or feel. Those are senses within our dimensions. What may take what we call 5 minutes to eat on our moving celestial body(earth) may take 222years on another moving celestial body.
So could there technically ever be two Andres or Greenbeans with the same senses?
Sinse the universe is so infinite- the chances of finding An Andre or Greenbeen could exist, but with the same dimensions would seem minute. Moving at the same rate, and having the same perception, also seems minute...like a snowflake. If no two are exactly alike on this tiny ass pebble of a planet, then what are the chances of an exact CARBON copy of you or me? Not saying I know, but swimming into deep waters with you bro..:cool:
you are going right into the wide krishna's asshole
So you see Jesus' asshole as LESS wide?
All matters is the size of his heart.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
So you're saying Krishna's heart didn't matter?Quote:
Originally Posted by NVSeminAll matters is the size of his heart.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
I used to think the same thing when practicing transcendental meditation as a teenager and I believe that you believe such a thing to be true, as obviously your friend did too. That is not the same as reality though. The persistent soul is a peculiarly western and Christian concept that has it's origins in Roman and Greek Gods. Immortality as a distinct soul only diminishes the experience of life now on this planet as a human. It would be ungrateful and childish of me as a child of the Grand Master to deny this and like NVSemin look for a reward outside of this amazing existence in which both Heaven and Hell are omnipresent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre
Curiously Hell is not mentioned in the Bible at all. It is a mistranslation of a Hebrew word for Grave,substituted by ignorant men who have relied on fear to control people.
Even if the world ends we can still live in space which is what Rosetta is a robotic space probe built and launched by the European Space Agency to perform a detailed study of comet. Rosetta was launched on 2 March 2004 on an Ariane 5 rocket and reached the comet on 6 August 2014,becoming the first spacecraft to orbit a comet. It may have started life on earth.
BBC News - Rosetta: concerns for comet lander after uneven landing
Yes I agree totally on that. This has nothing to do with soul or heaven and hell or its mislaid concept of dimensional entrapment through material lust or total unconditional love and freedom without those things.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzI used to think the same thing when practicing transcendental meditation as a teenager and I believe that you believe such a thing to be true, as obviously your friend did too. That is not the same as reality though. The persistent soul is a peculiarly western and Christian concept that has it's origins in Roman and Greek Gods. Immortality as a distinct soul only diminishes the experience of life now on this planet as a human. It would be ungrateful and childish of me as a child of the Grand Master to deny this and like NVSemin look for a reward outside of this amazing existence in which both Heaven and Hell are omnipresent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre
Curiously Hell is not mentioned in the Bible at all. It is a mistranslation of a Hebrew word for Grave,substituted by ignorant men who have relied on fear to control people.
My soul did not undertake the journey as such,religion through people still only think in pairs,physical-soul. hevean -hell night ,day,black-white ,good -evil. There is no allowance for the next dimension which has none of this rubbish and wont have our baggage from here. Since that time of doing it natural as a kid, I realize its a light body not my soul and you can consciously activate it then use it like a craft to move.There are many layers to this one universe and many layers too us also. Cant think in terms of physical universe or physical body or mental experience as the same but is similar if you want that point of view to relate to.Back then my uncle never knew I was coming to see him he was working in his shed and looked up from working on a lathe and saw a monk in his back yard looking at him,it wasnt a monk Id donned new hooded jacket I just got and went I remember doing so.Heres the thing I went early hours in the morning I doubt he was working out there at that time on a noisy lathe I think he saw me later on in the day,I cant remember doing it at 2pm in the day but I was watching him working earlier from outside his shed. One could argue its a dream remembered. Theres more.
ALL DAY LONG! multi-verse. Could it be that when /if a supreme being gets to the edge of this universe..is there magnetistm that would reject our properties?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustinfinity trumps all things since by definition it is endless.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTrae
There is a great documentary called Journey to the edge of the Universe-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVIigCMhCZc
It kinda shocked me to hear them say- The Hubble made it to the edge--where stars cease to exist.- space? or dark matter & dark energy?
Yet they acknowldge that the Hubble couldn't possibly go through the many billions of galaxies-just past them-
The narrator asks; which direction do we go? There are seemingly (infinite possibilites!) 25 trillion miles from earth would take us 150 thousand years in a space shuttle-to get to the (NEXT) solar sytsem beside our own!
past the milky way- 6 billion year journey to the next one {160 thousand light years from the milky way)
supernovas-hyper novas- black holes-
MY POINT:Can conciousness exist? Spirit? Does matter have the same properties? Does a supreme being create these? Can a supreme being (withstand that which we can't get to yet---black holes sucking up even light-
For LIGHT to us is energy- a living man can shock another one- but if one is in the casket-dead, then when that soul leaves, so, too does their energy.
That which we on earth call (the sustainer) the Greeks call it Theos and we English speakers render it as (GOD):
At this point into travelling via Hubble: we have found no life- does that mean it doesnt exist except us? or existance that goes beyond the physical- matter encasing energy (spirit) released from matter, free from form- as we know it. Dark Matter, Dark energy. does a God create it- or is God the result of IT?
And if so, why would a Supreme God send one son to one (planet)earth to take an ass whooping for the (sins) of those beings, & call it end times. when the hebrew word for sin- are many- the most often used actually means (to miss the mark). Seemingly nothing to do with the Greeks rendition of Sin; that act of doing evil.
Surely this bares witness to the point of the Hebrew rendering the afterlife as (Sheol) a grave- for the physical.
Not until the Greeks(1,000bc) do we get Hades (a hell for the doomed) Other times it is called Hinnom or gehenna -places on earth. And at another point Hades is the trajectory of the sun-
Ignorant Greeks thinking the earth was the center of the universe (with their GOD BIble) because their eyes watched the sun rise in the east and set in the west...so how does the sun get to the east? By travelling under the world...underworld and thus begins the story of the underworld. (Hades) then at another point Hades becomes a dude. then he is the dude who oversee the underworld (that which the sun travels to get to the other side.) Not until they went to school in Egypt did they learn the sun was the center--wow jehovah or Yahweh didn't know that?
What GOD makes up a book like this? So flawed in science. And only mentioned sun, moon and Stars and nothing about planets.
I feel that since the universe (and there's ANOTHER issue---are there multiple universes?) Goes on forever (that is ALSO questionablquestionable)
Kinda like when you have to magnets and one side attracts the other, but if you flip them around- then the two repel each other.
That was one way how I was taught of the possibilities of another universe. If we were to get to the edge of our own, our properties might repel, thus preventing us from getting there...in the form of not matter, but ENERGY.
Would that mean there is another GOd who rules in that universe?
Surely this isn't the meaning of the Bible's heavan for the Hebrews have no word to describe it, and the dude they rejected (Jesus aka Isa) said one thing about it his whole life; THE KINGDOM OF HEAVAN IS WITHIN..
FREE YOUR MIND...AND YOUR ASS WILL FOLLOW -THE KINGDOM OF HEAVAN IS WITHIN.
"George Clinton" Make my funk the P-funk I wants to get funked Up.:cool:
numbers are subjective. What is five-ness? What is one-ness? Maybe there are no quantities. MaYBE there are no numbers. Maybe there is one god or maybe there are multiple gods of no numbers. So we couldnt then say there is only one god or there are many gods---it would be beyond one and many, as they are the only two possibilities. Almost like oppposites, one and many. Singular or plural. But what if there is more than just singular and plural?
How true is that! the kingdom is within. Same as the other ancient term; ' as above so below'. Turns out everything is circular and spherical moving in cycles both within the micro and out in the macro (from our little material perspective anyway). Still we act from this little perspective like its all lineal and so fear an end,fear change and hold fast to that which cannot be grasped, which steals your moment of being in the now totally away from you.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTraeALL DAY LONG! multi-verse. Could it be that when /if a supreme being gets to the edge of this universe..is there magnetistm that would reject our properties?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustinfinity trumps all things since by definition it is endless.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTrae
There is a great documentary called Journey to the edge of the Universe-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVIigCMhCZc
It kinda shocked me to hear them say- The Hubble made it to the edge--where stars cease to exist.- space? or dark matter & dark energy?
Yet they acknowldge that the Hubble couldn't possibly go through the many billions of galaxies-just past them-
The narrator asks; which direction do we go? There are seemingly (infinite possibilites!) 25 trillion miles from earth would take us 150 thousand years in a space shuttle-to get to the (NEXT) solar sytsem beside our own!
past the milky way- 6 billion year journey to the next one {160 thousand light years from the milky way)
supernovas-hyper novas- black holes-
MY POINT:Can conciousness exist? Spirit? Does matter have the same properties? Does a supreme being create these? Can a supreme being (withstand that which we can't get to yet---black holes sucking up even light-
For LIGHT to us is energy- a living man can shock another one- but if one is in the casket-dead, then when that soul leaves, so, too does their energy.
That which we on earth call (the sustainer) the Greeks call it Theos and we English speakers render it as (GOD):
At this point into travelling via Hubble: we have found no life- does that mean it doesnt exist except us? or existance that goes beyond the physical- matter encasing energy (spirit) released from matter, free from form- as we know it. Dark Matter, Dark energy. does a God create it- or is God the result of IT?
And if so, why would a Supreme God send one son to one (planet)earth to take an ass whooping for the (sins) of those beings, & call it end times. when the hebrew word for sin- are many- the most often used actually means (to miss the mark). Seemingly nothing to do with the Greeks rendition of Sin; that act of doing evil.
Surely this bares witness to the point of the Hebrew rendering the afterlife as (Sheol) a grave- for the physical.
Not until the Greeks(1,000bc) do we get Hades (a hell for the doomed) Other times it is called Hinnom or gehenna -places on earth. And at another point Hades is the trajectory of the sun-
Ignorant Greeks thinking the earth was the center of the universe (with their GOD BIble) because their eyes watched the sun rise in the east and set in the west...so how does the sun get to the east? By travelling under the world...underworld and thus begins the story of the underworld. (Hades) then at another point Hades becomes a dude. then he is the dude who oversee the underworld (that which the sun travels to get to the other side.) Not until they went to school in Egypt did they learn the sun was the center--wow jehovah or Yahweh didn't know that?
What GOD makes up a book like this? So flawed in science. And only mentioned sun, moon and Stars and nothing about planets.
I feel that since the universe (and there's ANOTHER issue---are there multiple universes?) Goes on forever (that is ALSO questionablquestionable)
Kinda like when you have to magnets and one side attracts the other, but if you flip them around- then the two repel each other.
That was one way how I was taught of the possibilities of another universe. If we were to get to the edge of our own, our properties might repel, thus preventing us from getting there...in the form of not matter, but ENERGY.
Would that mean there is another GOd who rules in that universe?
Surely this isn't the meaning of the Bible's heavan for the Hebrews have no word to describe it, and the dude they rejected (Jesus aka Isa) said one thing about it his whole life; THE KINGDOM OF HEAVAN IS WITHIN..
FREE YOUR MIND...AND YOUR ASS WILL FOLLOW -THE KINGDOM OF HEAVAN IS WITHIN.
"George Clinton" Make my funk the P-funk I wants to get funked Up.:cool:
I think if the source of all things was called to task even from within to allow every possibility to occur and to evolve,good and evil for instance; it would do it away from its own core and in a dimension or within dimensions that were locked down maybe by their own gravity (thats much deeper than the first glimpse). If it is the case it would create a facsimile self or parts thereof so if it went wrong it would have zero effect on the source or reality in its purest form. It may then have compassion for the fools that went down into compressed matter to experience such horrors and such joys and send others with less gravity to show a way out.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
That is way beyond singular and plurals; Material life followes the Golden mean or for human mathematical purposes the fibbriconni sequence right down to your dna.
Great stuff Brock, Dre!Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
For those who can't swim in the deep waters, go back to the kiddy pool!
The beauty of numbers
1 x 8 + 1 = 9
12 x 8 + 2 = 98
123 x 8 + 3 = 987
1234 x 8 + 4 = 9876
12345 x 8 + 5 = 987 65
123456 x 8 + 6 = 987654
1234567 x 8 + 7 = 9876543
12345678 x 8 + 8 = 98765432
123456789 x 8 + 9 = 987654321
1 x 9 + 2 = 11
12 x 9 + 3 = 111
123 x 9 + 4 = 1111
1234 x 9 + 5 = 11111
12345 x 9 + 6 = 111111
123456 x 9 + 7 = 1111111
1234567 x 9 + 8 = 11111111
12345678 x 9 + 9 = 111111111
123456789 x 9 +10= 1111111111
9 x 9 + 7 = 88
98 x 9 + 6 = 888
987 x 9 + 5 = 8888
9876 x 9 + 4 = 88888
98765 x 9 + 3 = 888888
987654 x 9 + 2 = 8888888
9876543 x 9 + 1 = 88888888
98765432 x 9 + 0 = 888888888
Brilliant, isn’t it?
And look at this symmetry:
1 x 1 = 1
11 x 11 = 121
111 x 111 = 12321
1111 x 1111 = 1234321
11111 x 11111 = 123454321
111111 x 111111 = 12345654321
1111111 x 1111111 = 1234567654321
11111111 x 11111111 = 123456787654321
111111111 x 111111111 = 12345678987654321
Now, take a look at this…
101%
From a strictly mathematical viewpoint:
What Equals 100%?
What does it mean to give MORE than 100%?
Ever wonder about those people who say they are giving more than 100%?
We have all been in situations where someone wants you to
GIVE OVER 100%.
How about ACHIEVING 101%?
What equals 100% in life?
Here’s a little mathematical formula that might help
Answer these questions:
If:
A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
Is represented as:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26.
If:
H-A-R-D-W-O-R- K
8+1+18+4+23+15+18+11 = 98%
And:
K-N-O-W-L-E-D-G-E
11+14+15+23+12+5+4+7+5 = 96%
But:
A-T-T-I-T-U-D-E
1+20+20+9+20+21+4+5 = 100%
THEN, look how far the love of God will take you:
L-O-V-E-O-F-G-O-D
12+15+22+5+15+6+7+15+4 = 101%
Therefore, one can conclude with mathematical certainty that:
While Hard Work and Knowledge will get you close, and Attitude will
Get you there, It’s the Love of God that will put you over the top!