Manny v Floyd is "Bullshit" and not gonna happen says Ariza (Video)

The point I'm making was made by Ariza too. And Espinoza says the same in the link I will provide. If negotiations are happening you can't sign a contract. And you can't sign a contract "in principle" as Koncz claims. Mannys own manager says Bob is in the way. Bob claims HBO and Showtime have agreed which is essential and HBO and Showtime say they haven't! Who is the known liar?

http://fighthype.com/news/article19141.html

Espinoza, like me says "what contract" nothing is drawn up because it's preposterous. You can't sign a contract and continue negotiations. It's the same tired rouse. And what if the deadline comes before HBO and Showtime agree? Floyd must agree to the fight before the fight is even possible? If you flipped this scenario people would be shouting from the rooftops how obvious it is Floyd was ducking. Understand this, everyone but the known liars agree that there is no contract! But yet they've signed, and they're negotiating haha. It's so f'n stupid that I don't believe one person no matter how much they hate Floyd is naive enough to believe it. It's impossible

It sounds to me that Manny has just made Floyd a formal offer and is waiting for it to be accepted. It is not a contract yet because it has obviously not yet been accepted. The negotiations are ongoing until an offer is accepted and a contract signed and made legally binding.

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Originally Posted by jahmez

It sounds to me that Manny has just made Floyd a formal offer and is waiting for it to be accepted. It is not a contract yet because it has obviously not yet been accepted. The negotiations are ongoing until an offer is accepted and a contract signed and made legally binding.

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So it even sounds to you like they are lying. So they will lie about this and lie about that but overall you think they are telling the truth? Do you hear that and how preposterous it sounds?

Arum says they are done and the contract is signed. Every other person involved except Manny and Koncz says they are negotiating. Who's lying. Everyone else or Bob "I was lying to you yesterday but telling the truth today Arum?

Bob says HBO and Showtime have agreed. HBO and Showtime say they are negotiating. Who's lying, Bob, or HBO and Showtime? Keep in mind they aren't just saying it to keep the peace. Kirkland and Canelo have reached an agreement but they are waiting to finalize the date "because of ongoing negotiations between HBO and Showtime to make Mayweather/Pacquiao". I think you know on this Bob is lying. If he's lying about some things why should we believe him about others? Especially when everyone else involved says they are lying.

I hope you are right, I hope Manny has signed the contract everyone else agrees doesn't exist. Then at least we will have some resolution to this calamity one way or another. But to know Bob is lying about some things doesn't give me hope that he is telling the truth about the sum.

I don't know why people get so hot under the collar about this anymore. If it happens cool, if it doesn't cool too. There are a lot of fighters out there and Manny and Floyd do not make the sport. Floyd in particular can just piss off for all I care. He is a cherry picker and tedious to watch anyway. Let him fight scraps like Mundine for safe money. It's only the loss of anyone who pays to see it.

Shock and awe Ron, a lawyer turned boxing promoter is not telling the truth!?
You're obviously a pretty sharp bloke Ronnie boy but sometimes you focus so much on the apparent font that you miss the plot entirely. Do you honestly think Manny is going to release a statement lecturing the public on the concepts of offer & acceptance, consideration blah blah blah or just keep things nice and digestible by saying "I have signed my part of the contract, now it's up to Floyd". Remember the idea of a contract existing before an offer has even been accepted may sound ludicrous to yourself but the majority of the public are completly ignorant on the subject so of course Manny (or the omnipresent lonesome Bob i.e. the shooter on the grassy knole, the suicidal pilot on Malaysian Airlilnes flight MH370 and, most infamously, the man solely responsible for myself running out of toilet paper the other day at work!) or whoever else from the ever powerful yet eternally elusive Illuminati will cater to that.


You've been a very good boy young Master Swanson and done your homework but until you get your eager little hands on actual source documents everything you or any other of us lowly fans present is mere hearsay. In a situation like this perhaps it is best to take a dispassionate and objective step back and form an opinion on who you think benefits the most from the present circumstances. When I do that I just can't see Bob winning here old sport. If he supposedly steers Manny away from Floyd then how many other fights does the Pacman really have left? Two or three at the most?


What bottom line do you think is more attractive to Bob?:


1) Fight Floyd and, win or lose, hit the biggest jackpot of his career notwithstanding any possible rematch clauses. Again, win or lose and still reap the rewards of the next two or three possible different matchups in Macau, Abu Dhabi and/or Wembley (in no particular order) or,


2) Not fight Floyd and take the two or three more said fights in which will most probably still only generate a fraction of what could be produced from the fight of the century (assuming that Manny doesn't get hit with the same right hand bombs that Marquez and even Bradley conjured up and return to Napville (god forbid in the first fight scheduled after ducking Floyd))


You don't have to work out the present value of future cash flows to make a guess about what Mr Arum is thinking, you just need to not lose sight of the big picture.

This dick head can have a week off to go look up where the word cooning stems from and what other derogatory words its listed along side it.

Whats he think we are stupid?

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Originally Posted by jahmez

There is nothing racist about the word cooning - go look it up. It's exactly what Floyd does - he's a pathetic cartoon character version of all the great past American fighters who plays on modern day stereotypes to sell more tickets to his snooze fests.

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Only the urban touches on it, but its from the word Coon and thats offensive and if you think it isnt you are a dumb fuck=You are a dumb fuck. :)