I'm a pothead and I was booing him. Although to be fair I'm not classy either. :) That wasn't the fight I was expecting. That wasn't Vazquez-Marquez 3, it was V-M 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
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I'm a pothead and I was booing him. Although to be fair I'm not classy either. :) That wasn't the fight I was expecting. That wasn't Vazquez-Marquez 3, it was V-M 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
One of the biggest non-performances I can remember in the last few years from a supposed elite fighter. Had absolutely no idea what to do in there, stood there like a punching bag until the ringside doctor took pity on him. Alvarez is a boxing tragedy waiting to happen, he's so god damn robotic in there and takes so much punishment every fight.
Thank god they stopped it, that could have easily ended up being another Magomedov situation.
Talk about a paycheck fight! What a disgraceful performance by a fighter who admitted he wasn't "Fully Prepared" for the fight, give me a break! You tell from the first minute he didn't really want to fight, just was there to get a paycheck! Time to hang-em up.
All things considered, think he was as prepared as he was capable of. You could see it in lead up, on the edge almost...used up.Quote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaDude did rip them off :-X he said himself he wasn't as prepared as he should have been :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Yes, I admittedly picked Alvarado. In no way did I expect him to perform like that. Rios looked good, he wasn't flabby as he has been lately. He obviously trained and took it seriously. He also put together several coherent sentences without a swear every other word. I thought he was gone, sad to see Mike lose but glad to see Rios still has an intact brain. Maybe Floyd will pick Rios next, that would be an easy one for Floyd.
Agreed :-\ probably why the crowd was booing him :eek: they paid their good money to go see a fight and it was clear from round one he shouldn't have even been in the ring :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliAll things considered, think he was as prepared as he was capable of. You could see it in lead up, on the edge almost...used up.Quote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaDude did rip them off :-X he said himself he wasn't as prepared as he should have been :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
They had every right to boo, he cheated everyone.
No more than some network diva carries a guy or timing out rounds in a howcase. Ya don't dog a guy when you SEE he is shot to bits and has nothing, Jeezus fookin A man. Warriors..the lot of us eh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Well that was a dud.
Alvarado is a bad ass, but also a con man and criminal.
He conned HBO and fans tonight. He saw 4 fingers alright...
That was a really shocking performance. I knew there were rumours about Alvarado being on meth and of course he has been in tough fights, but that was a sick performance. He had no footwork, no output, a practically useless defense. Rios seemed to know from the off that his opponent was a shell and whence had no restraint. Fair play to Rios, but Alvarado made him look better than he was. Alvarado should probably not be licensed to fight again. If that continued he was liable to get seriously hurt. I don't think he is very well.
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Originally Posted by Gandalf
Meth sprang to my mind as well when seeing him give the pre fight interview with Lampley. I've seen enough COPS episodes to know that ya don't go for a car ride at 4 AM because you are "thirsty".
Alvarado has just taken too much of a beating his last couple of fights. It takes a lot out of you. He was never a great fighter but I don't think he has anything left. He may fight again but will never beat anybody of worth.
Yes, his voice also seems really strange and also that shadow boxing he did pre-fight was very off too. It was almost like he was paying homage to Charlie Zelenoff. After the fight he didn't seem well either, but I guess he had just received a thrashing. That can't be doing his confidence the world of good either. Hopefully he was paid well, takes a proper rest, and has a good think about the future.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Gandalf
Meth sprang to my mind as well when seeing him give the pre fight interview with Lampley. I've seen enough COPS episodes to know that ya don't go for a car ride at 4 AM because you are "thirsty".
Alvarado got smashed up in the first round, Rios could not miss him with the upper cut, pretty
much after the 1st round, he had lost his legs were gone he looked shot.
Very disappointing decider to the trilogy. Mike probably shouldn't have been in there. He was far worse than he was when he lost to Marquez and perhaps the outside distractions were the cause if that
Mike didn't look as though he'd trained. After 1 minute it looked like he'd already been through a 12 round war. Legs had no strength and tactics non existent. Bam bam was relentless and looked powerful at 147. He can still be in good fights. The reason I picked rios is because he fights how he likes fighting but mike looked like a guy trying to box as he'd been told but even when he was trading out of desperation he still didn't let go with commitment, he was half holding back.
Mikes done but rios has shown he is an exciting fighter with a great chin. Congrats Rios!
At the end Alvarado clearly wants to quit. His trainer isn't letting him out either, but they don't want to quit in his hometown with a big HBO camera stuck in their face relaying the corner.
Trainer tells the doc Alvarado can't see. Alvarado tells the doc he can't see. Doc gets Nady. Nady booms out "YOU WANNA QUIT?" --- Doc then starts doing the finger test.
"No, no we don't wanna quit but he can't see, He. Can. Not. See. we do not want to quit, see nothing nada, we are not quitting, he's blind. Will you pair of cunts just call the fucking fight off."*
*That is a fabricated quote. Just in case like
Alvarado says he will fight on, why was his performance shocking? He really doesn't see, to have his head in the game anymore.
After the Prod fight Alvarado was all choked up to the point of crying. After this fight it was like he didn't give a crap. Very disappointing as he has been one of my favorites, right after Tam.
“Easy and brutal TKO win for Rios. Alvarado’s team is in disarray. He has legal issues. He may be shot. And he has looked terrible in training.”
My prediction. Finally broke my string of bad ones.
Sorry to hear Alavarado didn't show. Thanks for the blow-by-blow commentary. Seems a concensus: Alvarado is done.
Rios beat a shell of Alvarado. Can't see much satisfaction in that.
Too bad Alvarado didn't come better prepared. He should seriously consider hanging them up.
It's one thing to lose, it's another to come unprepared and not put in a genuine effort to win. If a guy comes in shape and wants to win, and gets caught and KO'd in the first round, shit happens. But for a guy to come unprepared and put in a non-performance like that in front of a home-town crowd is just disgraceful. It should be a career ender.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliNo more than some network diva carries a guy or timing out rounds in a howcase. Ya don't dog a guy when you SEE he is shot to bits and has nothing, Jeezus fookin A man. Warriors..the lot of us eh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
I'm with you and I hope its the end. He was looking and sounding strung out prior to the bell and has a lot of damage on top. Bigger 'fights' he needs to win now. He is one step away from taking bath tub videos and breaking down ala Jermain Taylor.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerIt's one thing to lose, it's another to come unprepared and not put in a genuine effort to win. If a guy comes in shape and wants to win, and gets caught and KO'd in the first round, shit happens. But for a guy to come unprepared and put in a non-performance like that in front of a home-town crowd is just disgraceful. It should be a career ender.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliNo more than some network diva carries a guy or timing out rounds in a howcase. Ya don't dog a guy when you SEE he is shot to bits and has nothing, Jeezus fookin A man. Warriors..the lot of us eh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Boxing should have been the last thing on his mind.
Alvarado looks to be done, I going to leave him alone until he starts talking about fighting again.
I wonder how stringent the post-fight drug testing is in Denver. How long does meth remain detectable?
I was wondering that myself. Meth can keep you up for days and in the withdrawal part all you can do is sleep and eat. I ran into a couple people when I was in the Midwest who were trying to beat the beast and they said it was he'll. The first I heard of the allegations is when miles mentioned he read it. I have no idea, meth usually ravages the body and Mike didn't look physically bad but you never know. How long it stays in the system would depend on a lot of factors, amount used, how long you've been using but mainly your bodies metabolism. I imagine it has a short half life being a quick acting drug. But I know little about the metabolites of meth, I do know it's one of the hardest addictions to conquer. The fact someone who has so much to lose is driving around with a gun while already a felon shows you something is going on to aide in bad decision making. Well, I'm still a fan of the guy and wish him the best, I'll be very surprised to see if he gets no prison time for the weapons charge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing