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Hey, puddin' pop.....whenever you choose to answer my question I'll be....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_E2EHVxNAE
:fyou:
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Kirkland Laing
So we can agree that it was only the black people who were enslaved who counted as 3/5ths of a person as far as the US constitution was concerned. Excellent.
And yes, I'm going to continue laughing at you until you eventually go the full Al Gore. Then I'm going to laugh even more.
See Kirkland, words have meaning and when you say "all black people" that would mean ALL black people. Just to make certain you understand what "all" is.
All - used to refer to the whole quantity or extent of a particular group or thing
For example if there was 1 apple in a room and you ate that 1 apple in the room then you would have eaten ALL the apples in that room.
There were slaves oh yes no doubt...were ALL slaves black? No. Were all blacks slaves? No. So your statement is false.
Anna Murray wife of abolitionist Frederick Douglass was a FREE black person for example. James Forten a Philadelphia businessman black, FREE. Robert and Joseph Purvis also FREE blacks. Paul Cuffee FREE black.....and I can go on and on and on depending on how many times you would like for me to hammer home the 100% undeniable fact that you are wrong. Thank you for playing, good day
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El Kabong
Ahem....you said and I quote "Apart from black people who only count as 3/5ths of a white person according to the US constitution" ...... that was NOT the case and NEVER the case ergo you are wrong!
Meanwhile...in the realm of unanswered questions
Phyletic gradualism or Punctuated equilibrium....the world waits
Pathetic.
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Master
I love you, really good informative posts, it is like a tennis match.
A one-sided drubbing of a tennis match.
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SlimTrae
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Master
I love you, really good informative posts, it is like a tennis match.
A one-sided drubbing of a tennis match.
Which way? I see it back and forth. :)
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Master
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SlimTrae
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Originally Posted by
Master
I love you, really good informative posts, it is like a tennis match.
A one-sided drubbing of a tennis match.
Which way? I see it back and forth. :)
A modest Master?
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UK please listen up! How each UK Party will get your vote in May!
Hear now lads, if you're gonna get anybody's vote here is what each of the parties must do as I see it coming up for these elections:
Labour- PLEASE change your leader to someone vaguely credible. No incompetent liars.
Conservative- PLEASE conclusively prove that all the other parties were run by lizard creatures from another planet. Even then it would have to prove that lizard creatures were actually worse than Michael Gove. BWAHAHAHA Gove can suck donkey dick for all anyone cares at this point.
Lib Dems- I KNOW THIS WILL BE HARD BUT PLEASE grow some kind of spine you fucking bunch of pansies and actually hold true to a set of core values that they persuaded people they valued more than they valued power. What a fucking disgrace, bunch of candy-asses, Kum Ba Ya.
UKIP- MAYBE, ....MAYBE change your leader. Change their executive. Change every candidate!!!
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Seriously mate you are clueless. When you try and suck up to an obviously superior country than your own, It helps if you can speak the lingo, have a handle on the vernacular,and not have had an irony, subtlety and wit bypass. At the end of the day for all your Armenian coffee drinking, multi cultural PC globe trotting gibberish and faux sophistication you will never hide the fact that you are an uncouth and charmless Yank. Hope this helps.
UK Listen Up? ;D:vd:
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Greenbeanz
Seriously mate you are clueless. When you try and suck up to an obviously superior country than your own, It helps if you can speak the lingo, have a handle on the vernacular,and not have had an irony, subtlety and wit bypass. At the end of the day for all your Armenian coffee drinking, multi cultural PC globe trotting gibberish and faux sophistication you will never hide the fact that you are an uncouth and charmless Yank. Hope this helps.
UK Listen Up? ;D:vd:
you wouldnt pick up on a joke if it hit you in the face. You actually took that seriously? :o
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Greenbeanz
Seriously mate you are clueless. When you try and suck up to an obviously superior country than your own, It helps if you can speak the lingo, have a handle on the vernacular,and not have had an irony, subtlety and wit bypass. At the end of the day for all your Armenian coffee drinking, multi cultural PC globe trotting gibberish and faux sophistication you will never hide the fact that you are an uncouth and charmless Yank. Hope this helps.
UK Listen Up? ;D:vd:
Beanz, for the love of God could you just stop. These guys aren't even mentioning you but you keep goading them daily. It's too f ing much. And you accuse me and others of being a shit stirrer and your boy Ryan calls me and others who speak of you smug cunts. Enough is enough. I think Brock and Miles are trying to move on from it. Why don't you just let them voice there opinion and let it go. We know, Brock mentioned areas around you. I live in Beacon Falls Connecticut. You can say you are coming here to kick someone's ass everyday and I really don't give a shit as I know you won't. You are ruining the place, alright, that's going to far, you are not ruining it but you are stinking it up. I'll give you a dollar if you stop, send me your info, I'll send it on pay pal.
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Well said, Walrus. I think a lot of us have had it up to the teeth with his smarmy, rude, aggressive and expletive ridden running down of a selected group of posters. All it is now is trolling and he is looking to get a rise. Sometimes we respond and say things we shouldn't, but in the face of abandoning my family, being a traitor, a cunt, being assaulted by his wife who also doesn't exist (don't ask :rolleyes:), and all these other things, it is Brockton who is ruining the forum and getting threatened with a ban.
How many times have me and Brockton EVER shared an angry exchange in all of these years? The answer is zero. You treat someone with respect and they will do the same in return. Some people though just have no manners and the abused just wants to become the abuser and the proliferation of abuse gives them a subconscious kick. Some of us want less abuse, but the seriously abusive and psychotic only wants to keep it going on and on. It is your classic bully.
Beanz, started this latest round and Brockton is again threatened by Andre who refuses to see where it all kicks off each time. Nobody needs to be banned, but someone needs a serious change in attitude as he is alienating everybody the way he is going. Just stop the types of post seen straight off in this thread. Just horrible.
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Re: UK please listen up! How each UK Party will get your vote in May!
This new thread is the typical example of what I cannot stand, and what in my opinion, (dare I say "our" opinion?) is the problem. someone just jumped into this thread with smug insulting namecalling arrogance, and yet this is OK, this is fine. Of course there will be no warnings to him. As usual. And he will do this over and over until someone calls him out on it, and then THAT person will be warned. And there is NO double-standard.
This phenomenon is so glaringly obvious that you don't need a Masters in Literature or in the meaning of words or language to perceive it.
Now back to the OP, unless someone jumps back in with more nasty snideness.
listen up, UK!!! You need to see how youre gonna get votes in May to each of the 4 parties, lads. I truly belive the Lib Dems BLHs bwaha are in serious psychotic separation from reality. They will lose many seats, and its looking like UKIP, oddly, will gain ... but they MAY need a new leader, blokes. As for the Tories, ohhh NO, they are hopelessly hypocritical. How will you all vote in May?
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walrus
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Originally Posted by
Greenbeanz
Seriously mate you are clueless. When you try and suck up to an obviously superior country than your own, It helps if you can speak the lingo, have a handle on the vernacular,and not have had an irony, subtlety and wit bypass. At the end of the day for all your Armenian coffee drinking, multi cultural PC globe trotting gibberish and faux sophistication you will never hide the fact that you are an uncouth and charmless Yank. Hope this helps.
UK Listen Up? ;D:vd:
Beanz, for the love of God could you just stop. These guys aren't even mentioning you but you keep goading them daily. It's too f ing much. And you accuse me and others of being a shit stirrer and your boy Ryan calls me and others who speak of you smug cunts. Enough is enough. I think Brock and Miles are trying to move on from it. Why don't you just let them voice there opinion and let it go. We know, Brock mentioned areas around you. I live in Beacon Falls Connecticut. You can say you are coming here to kick someone's ass everyday and I really don't give a shit as I know you won't. You are ruining the place, alright, that's going to far, you are not ruining it but you are stinking it up. I'll give you a dollar if you stop, send me your info, I'll send it on pay pal.
Beacon Falls, Connecticut, really? I was born in Bridgeport, Connecticut. Hell yeah, bro, 2 Connceticut Yankees we are then! I'm coming over there for some nice food! I think you guys got a nice New Harvest organic restaurant or something nearby, right? let's go!!! I'm hungry! (as usual---I gotta lose 25 kilos)
p.s. I spit my water on that "pay pal" comment bwaaaAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAA
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Back on topic. Do people really still bother with voting? Why? When has that ever made the slightest bit of difference? It's good cop, bad cop. Still a tit in a costume. :cool:
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So Brockton posts something, Greenbeanz replies not agreeing with it, and you three jump on him because he won't stop? Why should he? Because he disagrees? He is allowed to reply to any topic posted on here and just because he doesn't agree with Brockton is no reason for him to need to 'stop'. The thing with forums is the comments in a thread are often a comment on the nature of the thread itself, rather than the content therein. That's normal.
The problem as I see it is that Brockton and Miles take someone disagreeing with them as an attack.
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Gandalf
Back on topic. Do people really still bother with voting? Why? When has that ever made the slightest bit of difference? It's good cop, bad cop. Still a tit in a costume. :cool:
excellent. There Miles old boy. It is definitely good cop bad cop. Elections are mostly manipulated in various clandestine manners the likes of which have never been seen until maybe the past 10 to 20 years. Do you remember the hanging chads? How that criminal George Bush got away with that bullshit in the state of Florida it was highway robbery after that alleged election many people lost faith in the electoral system.
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I still believe the Scottish referendum was a fraudulent one too. And even then with all the media against independence and votes for independence being ignored, the difference was tiny. This election will result in another coalition against the people regardless of who you vote for. Probably no real point in voting as all you are doing is saying you think the current system is valid. It isn't valid.
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I totally agree. choosing left or right or center is just playing the same old shell game. It is a shame for the people I mean the sheeple
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Voting for a political party is like believing in God. It's an act of faith. Unlike God you actually get to find out that your faith was completely misplaced and none of the things that were supposed to happen have happened.
Of the 20 years I've been eligible to vote this will be the first year that I actually have. I've always trotted out the 'what's the point, they're all pricks' line.
I don't know who I'll vote for and I'm under no illusions that a new 'Great Britain' will be born, but I should vote, therefor will.
What I want.
I want immigration drastically reduced, I want people coming to this country to either have a job to come to, or to be academically/technically well placed to find work and also to be financially able to support themselves and whoever they bring with them whilst they look for work. If their money runs out and they haven't found work, tough shit, back to where you came from and try again in 12 months time.
Anyone going the other way gives up all rights to British benefits of any kind.
I don't want any foreign aid handed out to anyone. Whilst we've got homelessness and hunger in our own country we shouldn't be giving out cash to anyone. We already as a nation give enough voluntarily without the need for part of our earnings being spent on it.
My lunch is over now, I'll possibly add more later.
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Originally Posted by
ryanman
So Brockton posts something, Greenbeanz replies not agreeing with it, and you three jump on him because he won't stop? Why should he? Because he disagrees? He is allowed to reply to any topic posted on here and just because he doesn't agree with Brockton is no reason for him to need to 'stop'. The thing with forums is the comments in a thread are often a comment on the nature of the thread itself, rather than the content therein. That's normal.
The problem as I see it is that Brockton and Miles take someone disagreeing with them as an attack.
Ryan, don't be clueless, that would be true if it weren't for all the bs that went down prior, you know what's going on.
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Originally Posted by
Memphis
Voting for a political party is like believing in God. It's an act of faith. Unlike God you actually get to find out that your faith was completely misplaced and none of the things that were supposed to happen have happened.
Of the 20 years I've been eligible to vote this will be the first year that I actually have. I've always trotted out the 'what's the point, they're all pricks' line.
I don't know who I'll vote for and I'm under no illusions that a new 'Great Britain' will be born, but I should vote, therefor will.
What I want.
I want immigration drastically reduced, I want people coming to this country to either have a job to come to, or to be academically/technically well placed to find work and also to be financially able to support themselves and whoever they bring with them whilst they look for work. If their money runs out and they haven't found work, tough shit, back to where you came from and try again in 12 months time.
Anyone going the other way gives up all rights to British benefits of any kind.
I don't want any foreign aid handed out to anyone. Whilst we've got homelessness and hunger in our own country we shouldn't be giving out cash to anyone. We already as a nation give enough voluntarily without the need for part of our earnings being spent on it.
My lunch is over now, I'll possibly add more later.
Memphis getting political! I enjoyed reading that and asides from the vote thing, I think you make some really excellent observations.
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Originally Posted by
walrus
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Originally Posted by
ryanman
So Brockton posts something, Greenbeanz replies not agreeing with it, and you three jump on him because he won't stop? Why should he? Because he disagrees? He is allowed to reply to any topic posted on here and just because he doesn't agree with Brockton is no reason for him to need to 'stop'. The thing with forums is the comments in a thread are often a comment on the nature of the thread itself, rather than the content therein. That's normal.
The problem as I see it is that Brockton and Miles take someone disagreeing with them as an attack.
Ryan, don't be clueless, that would be true if it weren't for all the bs that went down prior, you know what's going on.
HE REALLY does know, walrus, but remember he is an ACTOR.:cool:
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Can I stop this thread as it is getting in the way of the General Election thread I made earlier?
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Cameron denies 'running scared' of TV election debates but really he is. :)
David Cameron has denied claims he is scared of TV election debates, saying he wanted to "get on" with his proposal for a seven-way contest.
Ed Miliband has accused the PM of "cowering" from the public after he rejected proposals for a head-to-head debate with the Labour leader.
But the prime minister claimed the broadcasters were to blame.
BBC News - Cameron denies 'running scared' of TV election debates
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brocktonblockbust
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walrus
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ryanman
So Brockton posts something, Greenbeanz replies not agreeing with it, and you three jump on him because he won't stop? Why should he? Because he disagrees? He is allowed to reply to any topic posted on here and just because he doesn't agree with Brockton is no reason for him to need to 'stop'. The thing with forums is the comments in a thread are often a comment on the nature of the thread itself, rather than the content therein. That's normal.
The problem as I see it is that Brockton and Miles take someone disagreeing with them as an attack.
Ryan, don't be clueless, that would be true if it weren't for all the bs that went down prior, you know what's going on.
HE REALLY does know, walrus, but remember he is an ACTOR.:cool:
I am not an actor. I just always thought if I was ever unemployed I would just tell people I am an out of work actor. Or artist. Or writer.
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Master
Can I stop this thread as it is getting in the way of the General Election thread I made earlier?
Yes, you noticed. Just delete it. Miles and Brock will be delighted ;D
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@Master go ahead we had several nixed already
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NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGEL! NIIIIIIIIIIGEL!!! "TELL ME, MR. BARROSO!!!" bwaaaahaha
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Originally Posted by
Master
Cameron denies 'running scared' of TV election debates but really he is. :)
David Cameron has denied claims he is scared of TV election debates, saying he wanted to "get on" with his proposal for a seven-way contest.
Ed Miliband has accused the PM of "cowering" from the public after he rejected proposals for a head-to-head debate with the Labour leader.
But the prime minister claimed the broadcasters were to blame.
BBC News - Cameron denies 'running scared' of TV election debates
It is a lame situation. Cameron knows he will be roasted and doesn't want to bother, but by the same token a TV debate where each politician will lie and lie again will really answer no questions. The UK is run by the EU, the election itself is little more than a pantomime. The UK is EU occupied and banker run. It's a case of 'We are a little bit less evil than the Tories, but we still worship the banks and want you beyond your means and in debt'.
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Green parties policy on the economy.
Britain is one of the wealthiest nations in the world but this wealth isn’t being shared fairly.
We currently have an economic system that that prioritises growth in company profits over the wellbeing of society. This has seen money concentrated in the hands of a wealthy few; leaving the rest of us to suffer at the hands of the Coalition’s austerity agenda.
We believe there is a positive alternative to this mix of one-sided growth and austerity: an economy that works for everyone.
We will:
End austerity and restore the public sector, creating over one million good jobs that pay at least a living wage.
Pay for this with a new wealth tax on the top 1%, a Robin Hood Tax on the banks and the closure of tax loopholes.
Increase the minimum wage to reach a living wage of £10 an hour by 2020.
- See more at: https://www.greenparty.org.uk/we-sta....9EX04qRq.dpuf
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Kirkland Laing
Still feeling confident about Hillary for President?
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El Kabong
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Kirkland Laing
Still feeling confident about Hillary for President?
Hillary is an absolutely shit candidate. Totally bought and paid for by banks and corporations, prone to verbal gaffes, completely out of touch with average Americans, unlikely to have any serious challengers in the primaries so won't get the opportunity to get sharpened up by debates and competition with anybody before she faces the election campaign. Endless negatives.
The only thing saving her is the fact that the GOP candidates all make her look good by comparison.
I'm guessing you're looking at this email thing and thinking ha!, here we go!. But every time you think that over the next few months what you need to think is, does anybody apart from people who hate her/weren't going to vote for her anyway really give a shit about this.
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Kirkland Laing
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Kirkland Laing
Still feeling confident about Hillary for President?
Hillary is an absolutely shit candidate. Totally bought and paid for by banks and corporations, prone to verbal gaffes, completely out of touch with average Americans, unlikely to have any serious challengers in the primaries so won't get the opportunity to get sharpened up by debates and competition with anybody before she faces the election campaign. Endless negatives.
The only thing saving her is the fact that the GOP candidates all make her look good by comparison.
I'm guessing you're looking at this email thing and thinking ha!, here we go!. But every time you think that over the next few months what you need to think is, does anybody apart from people who hate her/weren't going to vote for her anyway really give a shit about this.
The last part isn't the key, the political key is "would Obama be ok with sacrificing Hillary in order to save himself, OR does she have something she's holding over him which would be a reason the DOJ would NOT go after Hillary?"
President Obama already admitted to not knowing about her use of private email, but it has now surfaced that they did in fact exchange emails and so that is a fairly simple fumble of the ball right there on Obama's part....he'd better hope there's nothing in those emails.
Hillary is plagued by these kinds of issues day in and day out for over 20 years, Whitewater, Rose Law Firm, the various sexual indiscretions of her husband, filegate, her lying about dodging sniper fire.....I believe the American people will grow weary of her especially because she's damn near declared already and that'll leave her alone in the spotlight for a time.....not a wise political move for someone of her experience.
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
Still feeling confident about Hillary for President?
Hillary is an absolutely shit candidate. Totally bought and paid for by banks and corporations, prone to verbal gaffes, completely out of touch with average Americans, unlikely to have any serious challengers in the primaries so won't get the opportunity to get sharpened up by debates and competition with anybody before she faces the election campaign. Endless negatives.
The only thing saving her is the fact that the GOP candidates all make her look good by comparison.
I'm guessing you're looking at this email thing and thinking ha!, here we go!. But every time you think that over the next few months what you need to think is, does anybody apart from people who hate her/weren't going to vote for her anyway really give a shit about this.
The last part isn't the key, the political key is "would Obama be ok with sacrificing Hillary in order to save himself, OR does she have something she's holding over him which would be a reason the DOJ would NOT go after Hillary?"
President Obama already admitted to not knowing about her use of private email, but it has now surfaced that they did in fact exchange emails and so that is a fairly simple fumble of the ball right there on Obama's part....he'd better hope there's nothing in those emails.
Hillary is plagued by these kinds of issues day in and day out for over 20 years, Whitewater, Rose Law Firm, the various sexual indiscretions of her husband, filegate, her lying about dodging sniper fire.....I believe the American people will grow weary of her especially because she's damn near declared already and that'll leave her alone in the spotlight for a time.....not a wise political move for someone of her experience.
You must not remember all the members of the Bush administration running their own private email servers. Dick Cheney and his man size safes in his office and his own system off classified documents. The White House having a shredding lorry turen up and shred tons of documents every few months and a local firm wiping hard drives on a regular basis. It only upset a few Democrats. Nobody else gave a shit.
All these "scandals" are things that only exercise Republicans and people who hate her and aren't going to vote for her. The rest of the country hears them and rolls their eyes. If the GOP want to win an election in 2015 by digging up non-scandals from the 1990s all it will do is make people contemplate what a ridiculous bunch of shit they were fed back then -- House investigations into whether Hillary murdered people or whether the Clintons were running a drug ring etc.
It's difficult for you to understand because your little shelf doesn't have the capacity for critical thought when it comes to politics. All it can do is store roughly forty eight hours worth of Fox News propaganda. That puts you in the same boat as a large number of other American voters, a lot of whom also interact with the internet, but just because there are a lot of you doesn't mean that everybody thinks like you do. The vast majority of people are just rolling their eyes when something like this comes up.
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Kirkland Laing
You must not remember all the members of the Bush administration running their own private email servers. Dick Cheney and his man size safes in his office and his own system off classified documents. The White House having a shredding lorry turen up and shred tons of documents every few months and a local firm wiping hard drives on a regular basis. It only upset a few Democrats. Nobody else gave a shit.
All these "scandals" are things that only exercise Republicans and people who hate her and aren't going to vote for her. The rest of the country hears them and rolls their eyes. If the GOP want to win an election in 2015 by digging up non-scandals from the 1990s all it will do is make people contemplate what a ridiculous bunch of shit they were fed back then -- House investigations into whether Hillary murdered people or whether the Clintons were running a drug ring etc.
It's difficult for you to understand because your little shelf doesn't have the capacity for critical thought when it comes to politics. All it can do is store roughly forty eight hours worth of Fox News propaganda. That puts you in the same boat as a large number of other American voters, a lot of whom also interact with the internet, but just because there are a lot of you doesn't mean that everybody thinks like you do. The vast majority of people are just rolling their eyes when something like this comes up.
#1 Condi Rice said she never used a private email account so there's your trouble using that word again...."All" :rolleyes:
#2 New regulations were passed in 2009 which of course do not and did not effect the W administration, but DO effect the Obama Administration.
Also there's the pesky little issue about foreign money pouring into the Clinton Global Initiative and the legality of that.....but you were insulting me, I shouldn't have interrupted your posting of such important slanders pray continue
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....mmmmm that presser did NOT go well, and that was with some C stringer media talking heads there.
Tough day for "The Smartest Woman in the World"
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Originally Posted by
Memphis
Voting for a political party is like believing in God. It's an act of faith. Unlike God you actually get to find out that your faith was completely misplaced and none of the things that were supposed to happen have happened.
Of the 20 years I've been eligible to vote this will be the first year that I actually have. I've always trotted out the 'what's the point, they're all pricks' line.
I don't know who I'll vote for and I'm under no illusions that a new 'Great Britain' will be born, but I should vote, therefor will.
What I want.
I want immigration drastically reduced, I want people coming to this country to either have a job to come to, or to be academically/technically well placed to find work and also to be financially able to support themselves and whoever they bring with them whilst they look for work. If their money runs out and they haven't found work, tough shit, back to where you came from and try again in 12 months time.
Anyone going the other way gives up all rights to British benefits of any kind.
I don't want any foreign aid handed out to anyone. Whilst we've got homelessness and hunger in our own country we shouldn't be giving out cash to anyone. We already as a nation give enough voluntarily without the need for part of our earnings being spent on it.
My lunch is over now, I'll possibly add more later.
Politics and political parties are poisons that create thoughtless puppets out of its followers. It should be banned...:-X