Re: Rocky Marciano ~ 'A Fight Between Cassius Clay and Me Would Have Been Horrible'
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brocktonblockbust
yes but the thing about Marciano was he would use his size as an advantage. Charlie goldman told Rocky to make himself even smaller than he already was. This was his great advantage like a reverse psychology
I've always had problems using statistical arguments with regards to Marciano because his numbers are not representative.
He beat all of his opponents and stopped most of them. But this has to be tempered with the fact that he only ever even fought about 12 opponents which were over 200lbs and every single one of those were utter bums with no relevance.
None of this lends credit for or against his chances against Ali, so it really all comes down to opinion.
Rocky was a tough bastard but Clay fought superior competition as much as it pains me to say that. Rocky's style was that of a little plodder, he was NO Mike Tyson by any measure. Clay was really the first HW boxer to get up on his toes, get his work done and try to get out of there at the first sign of danger. He was still very scrappy but in one of those rare moments for his defence I feel he has to be considered as kind of like the prototype for what we see today, tall mobile fighters who try to keep their opponent at range.
I never seen anything that convincing in Rocky's performance which leads me to believe he has anything but the punchers chance which I already gave him credit for.
Henry might have wasted Clay, but Henry also got belted out the next round too. If Marciano was better than Cooper, he was not that much better.
Re: Rocky Marciano ~ 'A Fight Between Cassius Clay and Me Would Have Been Horrible'
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Rocky Marciano
There is no way that Cassius could hit me. He was too tall, and I was way down here.
He would only be able to peck out with light left-jabs, and his right-hand would have been
neutralized.
If he came in too close, I would be able to deliver my 'ball-smashers' just under his
belt-line.
Re: Rocky Marciano ~ 'A Fight Between Cassius Clay and Me Would Have Been Horrible'
Rocky would have slaughtered Henry Cooper.
Re: Rocky Marciano ~ 'A Fight Between Cassius Clay and Me Would Have Been Horrible'
Trivia
Why have we never seen Rocky Marciano and Lou Costello together...... ?
Could they be, the same person.
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Re: Rocky Marciano ~ 'A Fight Between Cassius Clay and Me Would Have Been Horrible'
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Master
Rocky would have slaughtered Henry Cooper.
And that's why it's plausible that Rocky might knock that little whippet out.
He got smashed by Doug Jones, another good LHW of the day also.
We should be able to concur with some certainty that the Ali who beat Foreman could have easily slaughtered MArciano.
Re: Rocky Marciano ~ 'A Fight Between Cassius Clay and Me Would Have Been Horrible'
Rocky Marciano
If Cassius went back to the Ropes, I would have had his 'liver' for dinner.
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Re: Rocky Marciano ~ 'A Fight Between Cassius Clay and Me Would Have Been Horrible'
Bill must have wet his trousers looking at that picture.
You do know they were acting?
Re: Rocky Marciano ~ 'A Fight Between Cassius Clay and Me Would Have Been Horrible'
Rocky Marciano
Cassius was very quick, but was not very smart. People always confuse quickness with
ring smarts.
He dropped his guard a lot, and was any easy target for the left-hook. Again don't
confuse quickness, with brains.
If you're a 'sucker' for a left-hook, with all that speed, quickness, reflexes and height,
how can you be smart.
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Re: Rocky Marciano ~ 'A Fight Between Cassius Clay and Me Would Have Been Horrible'
Ali had a lot of technical weaknesses but he was still hard to hit never mind beat. Rocky would have been cut to ribbons.
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Tight Defense...........Not
Rocky stayed too low for Cassius' punches to have an effective slashing effect.
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Re: Rocky Marciano ~ 'A Fight Between Cassius Clay and Me Would Have Been Horrible'
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Bill Paxtom
How low did Rocky go? No lower than Archie Moore and Floyd Patterson.
Re: Rocky Marciano ~ 'A Fight Between Cassius Clay and Me Would Have Been Horrible'
Why you. Come on Rocky. Get over here and let me hit you.
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