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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
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Khans a bigger name than brook and will obviously generate more money. Brook and Thurman very well might beat Khan but they have absolutely no chance or beating floyd. Out the 3 of them Khan is the only 1 who could beat floyd IMO and I hope floyd picks the easy fight with brook or Thurman.
Khan may be a bigger name, but is he a currant Champion NO, he had been KO twice his last
fight he hardly set the World alight did he.
Trouble with Khan is he is no welter weight, he will get sparked by the bigger punchers if he
faces Brook, Kell will get to him and KO Khan.;)
Kim Kardishan is a bigger name than Khan, will she get a shot? All Khan has got is a name paid for by American sponsors who want payback, when will this hype ever end and the yanks realise they have made a loss on their investment?
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
I don't think Brook or his people want a Mayweather fight.
Let's face it, he's just won a belt and with the handpicked opponents on home soil that he's likely to face, he'll probably keep that belt for a while and make a lot of money. He's just fought Frankie Gavin for fook sake. He isn't acting like a guy who is interested in cleaning up the division. He'll be protected and avoid credible opponents all the way.
Mayweather beats him if they fight, no question. There's nothing in it for Brook. The payday won't really be that big because it's not that big a fight and he suffers a loss just as the hype around him is building.
It's more likely that he'll be happy to see Floyd retire and will spend a few years fighting stiffs for easy money until a big payday comes his way. Ironically, the biggest fight of Brook's career will probably be against Khan.
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
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tysonesque
I don't think Brook or his people want a Mayweather fight.
Let's face it, he's just won a belt and with the handpicked opponents on home soil that he's likely to face, he'll probably keep that belt for a while and make a lot of money. He's just fought Frankie Gavin for fook sake. He isn't acting like a guy who is interested in cleaning up the division. He'll be protected and avoid credible opponents all the way.
Mayweather beats him if they fight, no question. There's nothing in it for Brook. The payday won't really be that big because it's not that big a fight and he suffers a loss just as the hype around him is building.
It's more likely that he'll be happy to see Floyd retire and will spend a few years fighting stiffs for easy money until a big payday comes his way. Ironically, the biggest fight of Brook's career will probably be against Khan.
a common misunderstanding by boxing fans is that world champions need to fight the best of the best every fight
brook had only fought a few weeks before he fought gavin against his mandatory
and gavin wasnt their first choice
who should brook fight and where should he fight them? i dont think the khan fight isnt happening because of brook
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
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tysonesque
I don't think Brook or his people want a Mayweather fight.
Let's face it, he's just won a belt and with the handpicked opponents on home soil that he's likely to face, he'll probably keep that belt for a while and make a lot of money. He's just fought Frankie Gavin for fook sake. He isn't acting like a guy who is interested in cleaning up the division. He'll be protected and avoid credible opponents all the way.
Mayweather beats him if they fight, no question. There's nothing in it for Brook. The payday won't really be that big because it's not that big a fight and he suffers a loss just as the hype around him is building.
It's more likely that he'll be happy to see Floyd retire and will spend a few years fighting stiffs for easy money until a big payday comes his way. Ironically, the biggest fight of Brook's career will probably be against Khan.
a common misunderstanding by boxing fans is that world champions need to fight the best of the best every fight
brook had only fought a few weeks before he fought gavin against his mandatory
and gavin wasnt their first choice
who should brook fight and where should he fight them? i dont think the khan fight isnt happening because of brook
It's not a common misunderstanding at all. It's just a reflection of the joke that is modern boxing.
Brook doesn't have to fight the best in his division because the best in his division have their own worthless "world title" belts that allow them to also fight nobodies for several years. Brook's mandatory was in no way, shape or form the best of the potential challengers in his weight division, so let's not pretend that was a meaningful fight.
He's going to spend the next couple of years fighting bums in his own backyard, hype the shit out of a fight with Khan and make himself a nice big wedge of cash while never really facing a serious challenge at all. I'm sure he would fight Khan tomorrow because he probably genuinely believes he can beat him, but Brook and Hearn don't want any part of someone like Mayweather. He's got far too much to lose.
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
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tysonesque
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erics44
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tysonesque
I don't think Brook or his people want a Mayweather fight.
Let's face it, he's just won a belt and with the handpicked opponents on home soil that he's likely to face, he'll probably keep that belt for a while and make a lot of money. He's just fought Frankie Gavin for fook sake. He isn't acting like a guy who is interested in cleaning up the division. He'll be protected and avoid credible opponents all the way.
Mayweather beats him if they fight, no question. There's nothing in it for Brook. The payday won't really be that big because it's not that big a fight and he suffers a loss just as the hype around him is building.
It's more likely that he'll be happy to see Floyd retire and will spend a few years fighting stiffs for easy money until a big payday comes his way. Ironically, the biggest fight of Brook's career will probably be against Khan.
a common misunderstanding by boxing fans is that world champions need to fight the best of the best every fight
brook had only fought a few weeks before he fought gavin against his mandatory
and gavin wasnt their first choice
who should brook fight and where should he fight them? i dont think the khan fight isnt happening because of brook
It's not a common misunderstanding at all. It's just a reflection of the joke that is modern boxing.
Brook doesn't have to fight the best in his division because the best in his division have their own worthless "world title" belts that allow them to also fight nobodies for several years. Brook's mandatory was in no way, shape or form the best of the potential challengers in his weight division, so let's not pretend that was a meaningful fight.
He's going to spend the next couple of years fighting bums in his own backyard, hype the shit out of a fight with Khan and make himself a nice big wedge of cash while never really facing a serious challenge at all. I'm sure he would fight Khan tomorrow because he probably genuinely believes he can beat him, but Brook and Hearn don't want any part of someone like Mayweather. He's got far too much to lose.
Just like anybody else, if Brook gets offered the Floyd fight, even in Vegas, He would take it in a heartbeat . The same reasoning applies to every fighter out there.
1. it pays way more than any other imaginable fight.
2. even if he loses , he does Zero damage to his career, his rating or his future earning potential. he probably wouldn't even lose his title if he lost!
it's a major win-win for every fighter out there, that's why they're all queuing up to state their case, and that is why Khan is way down the "deserving" list imo.
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
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tysonesque
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erics44
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tysonesque
I don't think Brook or his people want a Mayweather fight.
Let's face it, he's just won a belt and with the handpicked opponents on home soil that he's likely to face, he'll probably keep that belt for a while and make a lot of money. He's just fought Frankie Gavin for fook sake. He isn't acting like a guy who is interested in cleaning up the division. He'll be protected and avoid credible opponents all the way.
Mayweather beats him if they fight, no question. There's nothing in it for Brook. The payday won't really be that big because it's not that big a fight and he suffers a loss just as the hype around him is building.
It's more likely that he'll be happy to see Floyd retire and will spend a few years fighting stiffs for easy money until a big payday comes his way. Ironically, the biggest fight of Brook's career will probably be against Khan.
a common misunderstanding by boxing fans is that world champions need to fight the best of the best every fight
brook had only fought a few weeks before he fought gavin against his mandatory
and gavin wasnt their first choice
who should brook fight and where should he fight them? i dont think the khan fight isnt happening because of brook
It's not a common misunderstanding at all. It's just a reflection of the joke that is modern boxing.
Brook doesn't have to fight the best in his division because the best in his division have their own worthless "world title" belts that allow them to also fight nobodies for several years. Brook's mandatory was in no way, shape or form the best of the potential challengers in his weight division, so let's not pretend that was a meaningful fight.
He's going to spend the next couple of years fighting bums in his own backyard, hype the shit out of a fight with Khan and make himself a nice big wedge of cash while never really facing a serious challenge at all. I'm sure he would fight Khan tomorrow because he probably genuinely believes he can beat him, but Brook and Hearn don't want any part of someone like Mayweather. He's got far too much to lose.
looks like rios is next, rios isnt a bum
and if he didnt fight him at home where would he fight him? america? why is that so good?
are you saying brook is fighting bums because he wont fight mayweather?
have you got anything positive to say?
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
Brook/Hearn would turndown guaranteed millions to face Floyd in favour of earning low six-figure purses to protect his belt?
You need to rethink that one mate.
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
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Fenster
Brook/Hearn would turndown guaranteed millions to face Floyd in favour of earning low six-figure purses to protect his belt?
You need to rethink that one mate.
Also to get the fight before Khan would be priceless for him.
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
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erics44
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tysonesque
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erics44
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tysonesque
I don't think Brook or his people want a Mayweather fight.
Let's face it, he's just won a belt and with the handpicked opponents on home soil that he's likely to face, he'll probably keep that belt for a while and make a lot of money. He's just fought Frankie Gavin for fook sake. He isn't acting like a guy who is interested in cleaning up the division. He'll be protected and avoid credible opponents all the way.
Mayweather beats him if they fight, no question. There's nothing in it for Brook. The payday won't really be that big because it's not that big a fight and he suffers a loss just as the hype around him is building.
It's more likely that he'll be happy to see Floyd retire and will spend a few years fighting stiffs for easy money until a big payday comes his way. Ironically, the biggest fight of Brook's career will probably be against Khan.
a common misunderstanding by boxing fans is that world champions need to fight the best of the best every fight
brook had only fought a few weeks before he fought gavin against his mandatory
and gavin wasnt their first choice
who should brook fight and where should he fight them? i dont think the khan fight isnt happening because of brook
It's not a common misunderstanding at all. It's just a reflection of the joke that is modern boxing.
Brook doesn't have to fight the best in his division because the best in his division have their own worthless "world title" belts that allow them to also fight nobodies for several years. Brook's mandatory was in no way, shape or form the best of the potential challengers in his weight division, so let's not pretend that was a meaningful fight.
He's going to spend the next couple of years fighting bums in his own backyard, hype the shit out of a fight with Khan and make himself a nice big wedge of cash while never really facing a serious challenge at all. I'm sure he would fight Khan tomorrow because he probably genuinely believes he can beat him, but Brook and Hearn don't want any part of someone like Mayweather. He's got far too much to lose.
looks like rios is next, rios isnt a bum
and if he didnt fight him at home where would he fight him? america? why is that so good?
are you saying brook is fighting bums because he wont fight mayweather?
have you got anything positive to say?
Rios isn't a bum, but he's not going to beat Brook and Brook's team know it.
I'm saying that, just like most champions on the planet, Brook will make a number of easy money defences before he risks his unbeaten record and his belt for a big payday against someone who carries a real threat.
That's how boxing works. Make easy defences and keep the money rolling in while slowly building the hype and money-making potential for a fight with one of the division's other top fighters a couple of years down the line.
Have you not noticed this?
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
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Fenster
Brook/Hearn would turndown guaranteed millions to face Floyd in favour of earning low six-figure purses to protect his belt?
You need to rethink that one mate.
If Hearn makes a serious attempt to get Mayweather in the ring with Brook I will eat my hat!
Hearn isn't only interested in one big payday, he wants lots of them. If Brook fights Mayweather now he will lose and his future earning potential will take a hit.
They can make plenty of money for years to come without risking the belts. I imagine getting the Khan fight in the UK is their number one priority. It's a massive earner and a fight Brook can win.
Brook and Hearn won't go anywhere near Mayweather.
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
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tysonesque
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Fenster
Brook/Hearn would turndown guaranteed millions to face Floyd in favour of earning low six-figure purses to protect his belt?
You need to rethink that one mate.
If Hearn makes a serious attempt to get Mayweather in the ring with Brook I will eat my hat!
Hearn isn't only interested in one big payday, he wants lots of them. If Brook fights Mayweather now he will lose and his future earning potential will take a hit.
They can make plenty of money for years to come without risking the belts. I imagine getting the Khan fight in the UK is their number one priority. It's a massive earner and a fight Brook can win.
Brook and Hearn won't go anywhere near Mayweather.
It is exactly the opposite. He gets a career high purse, US tv exposure and can laugh at Khan. Even in defeat, he wins.
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
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Master
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tysonesque
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Fenster
Brook/Hearn would turndown guaranteed millions to face Floyd in favour of earning low six-figure purses to protect his belt?
You need to rethink that one mate.
If Hearn makes a serious attempt to get Mayweather in the ring with Brook I will eat my hat!
Hearn isn't only interested in one big payday, he wants lots of them. If Brook fights Mayweather now he will lose and his future earning potential will take a hit.
They can make plenty of money for years to come without risking the belts. I imagine getting the Khan fight in the UK is their number one priority. It's a massive earner and a fight Brook can win.
Brook and Hearn won't go anywhere near Mayweather.
It is exactly the opposite. He gets a career high purse, US tv exposure and can laugh at Khan. Even in defeat, he wins.
No, it's really not.
Hearn wants consistent easy money over a number of years and a world champion on the books. Sure he'd get a decent payday against Mayweather, but Brook would also lose the fight and his belt. That jeopardises the Khan fight, which is probably the biggest fight out there for Brook.
Brook is probably going to beat Rios and then fight a few stiffs for a year or two before a mega bucks show down with Khan in the UK.
There is absolutely no way he is fighting Mayweather.
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
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tysonesque
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erics44
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tysonesque
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erics44
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tysonesque
I don't think Brook or his people want a Mayweather fight.
Let's face it, he's just won a belt and with the handpicked opponents on home soil that he's likely to face, he'll probably keep that belt for a while and make a lot of money. He's just fought Frankie Gavin for fook sake. He isn't acting like a guy who is interested in cleaning up the division. He'll be protected and avoid credible opponents all the way.
Mayweather beats him if they fight, no question. There's nothing in it for Brook. The payday won't really be that big because it's not that big a fight and he suffers a loss just as the hype around him is building.
It's more likely that he'll be happy to see Floyd retire and will spend a few years fighting stiffs for easy money until a big payday comes his way. Ironically, the biggest fight of Brook's career will probably be against Khan.
a common misunderstanding by boxing fans is that world champions need to fight the best of the best every fight
brook had only fought a few weeks before he fought gavin against his mandatory
and gavin wasnt their first choice
who should brook fight and where should he fight them? i dont think the khan fight isnt happening because of brook
It's not a common misunderstanding at all. It's just a reflection of the joke that is modern boxing.
Brook doesn't have to fight the best in his division because the best in his division have their own worthless "world title" belts that allow them to also fight nobodies for several years. Brook's mandatory was in no way, shape or form the best of the potential challengers in his weight division, so let's not pretend that was a meaningful fight.
He's going to spend the next couple of years fighting bums in his own backyard, hype the shit out of a fight with Khan and make himself a nice big wedge of cash while never really facing a serious challenge at all. I'm sure he would fight Khan tomorrow because he probably genuinely believes he can beat him, but Brook and Hearn don't want any part of someone like Mayweather. He's got far too much to lose.
looks like rios is next, rios isnt a bum
and if he didnt fight him at home where would he fight him? america? why is that so good?
are you saying brook is fighting bums because he wont fight mayweather?
have you got anything positive to say?
Rios isn't a bum, but he's not going to beat Brook and Brook's team know it.
I'm saying that, just like most champions on the planet, Brook will make a number of easy money defences before he risks his unbeaten record and his belt for a big payday against someone who carries a real threat.
That's how boxing works. Make easy defences and keep the money rolling in while slowly building the hype and money-making potential for a fight with one of the division's other top fighters a couple of years down the line.
Have you not noticed this?
:) i would do exactly the same
brook is fighting rios next
who is a possibility that is more of a challenge that will bring him a deserved pay cheque?
khan doesnt want it, I highly doubt thurman could be made, people talking about spense (what ever he is called) who looks like a good fighter but no-ones heard of him, Pac? mayweather? i highly doubt bradley could be made
so you are saying he is only fighting certain level fighters to hang on to his belt yet realistically he is fighting the best challenge out there that is realistic for him to fight
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
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Master
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Brook/Hearn would turndown guaranteed millions to face Floyd in favour of earning low six-figure purses to protect his belt?
You need to rethink that one mate.
If Hearn makes a serious attempt to get Mayweather in the ring with Brook I will eat my hat!
Hearn isn't only interested in one big payday, he wants lots of them. If Brook fights Mayweather now he will lose and his future earning potential will take a hit.
They can make plenty of money for years to come without risking the belts. I imagine getting the Khan fight in the UK is their number one priority. It's a massive earner and a fight Brook can win.
Brook and Hearn won't go anywhere near Mayweather.
It is exactly the opposite. He gets a career high purse, US tv exposure and can laugh at Khan. Even in defeat, he wins.
No, it's really not.
Hearn wants consistent easy money over a number of years and a world champion on the books. Sure he'd get a decent payday against Mayweather, but Brook would also lose the fight and his belt. That jeopardises the Khan fight, which is probably the biggest fight out there for Brook.
Brook is probably going to beat Rios and then fight a few stiffs for a year or two before a mega bucks show down with Khan in the UK.
There is absolutely no way he is fighting Mayweather.
Brooks wanted Khan on the PPV date in his last fight, Khan refused, if Hearns wanted to just make money from Brooks he would not have offered him a risky fight.
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
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tysonesque
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Fenster
Brook/Hearn would turndown guaranteed millions to face Floyd in favour of earning low six-figure purses to protect his belt?
You need to rethink that one mate.
If Hearn makes a serious attempt to get Mayweather in the ring with Brook I will eat my hat!
Hearn isn't only interested in one big payday, he wants lots of them. If Brook fights Mayweather now he will lose and his future earning potential will take a hit.
They can make plenty of money for years to come without risking the belts. I imagine getting the Khan fight in the UK is their number one priority. It's a massive earner and a fight Brook can win.
Brook and Hearn won't go anywhere near Mayweather.
Do you actually realise how much dough Mayweather generates?
Brook would earn more in one fight against him than he will in his next half-a-dozen - and that's if he keeps winning and his popularity keeps rising. There's not a fighter on the planet that would turndown a fight with Floyd.
A loss to Floyd doesn't hurt anybody (well arguably Pac's legacy). All a loss does is increase a fighters profile/earnings.
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
Yup, a fight with Floyd is the holy grail of boxing right now. You'll earn exponentially more with him than you will with anyone else, and if you beat him you go down as the guy to finally put Mayweather on his ass.
Nobody is turning that down, it offers the highest reward in boxing.
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
Highest reward and lowest risk of getting hurt because Floyd does not punch hard enough to stop anyone.
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
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Master
Highest reward and lowest risk of getting hurt because Floyd does not punch hard enough to stop anyone.
Absolutely right, Brook has nothing to lose even if he gets beat. Khan is now just a hype job being (hopefully) guided by his US sponsors into a payback fight with Mayweather, which we all know he doesn't deserve on his record.
It all depends on who Floyd a) thinks he can get away with for a creditable swansong, or b) fights who presnts a greater threat but with more box office. I reckon if b is the case he may take Khan as the easier opponent, sad, cruel but true. Brook has more right to the shot, and in my opinion gives PBF a harder fight.
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
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tysonesque
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Master
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Brook/Hearn would turndown guaranteed millions to face Floyd in favour of earning low six-figure purses to protect his belt?
You need to rethink that one mate.
If Hearn makes a serious attempt to get Mayweather in the ring with Brook I will eat my hat!
Hearn isn't only interested in one big payday, he wants lots of them. If Brook fights Mayweather now he will lose and his future earning potential will take a hit.
They can make plenty of money for years to come without risking the belts. I imagine getting the Khan fight in the UK is their number one priority. It's a massive earner and a fight Brook can win.
Brook and Hearn won't go anywhere near Mayweather.
It is exactly the opposite. He gets a career high purse, US tv exposure and can laugh at Khan. Even in defeat, he wins.
No, it's really not.
Hearn wants consistent easy money over a number of years and a world champion on the books. Sure he'd get a decent payday against Mayweather, but Brook would also lose the fight and his belt. That jeopardises the Khan fight, which is probably the biggest fight out there for Brook.
Brook is probably going to beat Rios and then fight a few stiffs for a year or two before a mega bucks show down with Khan in the UK.
There is absolutely no way he is fighting Mayweather.
You have got to be in La La land, do you seriously think that any Hearn would avoid a Mayweather fight? You must be joking! Oh right, we'll not put our unbeaten boy out against the top unbeaten boy in the world for £100m, we'll hold him back for a contest in the UK against another brit whose been wacked 3 times for £1m? Get real.
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
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nuggetdotcom
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tysonesque
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Master
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tysonesque
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Fenster
Brook/Hearn would turndown guaranteed millions to face Floyd in favour of earning low six-figure purses to protect his belt?
You need to rethink that one mate.
If Hearn makes a serious attempt to get Mayweather in the ring with Brook I will eat my hat!
Hearn isn't only interested in one big payday, he wants lots of them. If Brook fights Mayweather now he will lose and his future earning potential will take a hit.
They can make plenty of money for years to come without risking the belts. I imagine getting the Khan fight in the UK is their number one priority. It's a massive earner and a fight Brook can win.
Brook and Hearn won't go anywhere near Mayweather.
It is exactly the opposite. He gets a career high purse, US tv exposure and can laugh at Khan. Even in defeat, he wins.
No, it's really not.
Hearn wants consistent easy money over a number of years and a world champion on the books. Sure he'd get a decent payday against Mayweather, but Brook would also lose the fight and his belt. That jeopardises the Khan fight, which is probably the biggest fight out there for Brook.
Brook is probably going to beat Rios and then fight a few stiffs for a year or two before a mega bucks show down with Khan in the UK.
There is absolutely no way he is fighting Mayweather.
You have got to be in La La land, do you seriously think that any Hearn would avoid a Mayweather fight? You must be joking! Oh right, we'll not put our unbeaten boy out against the top unbeaten boy in the world for £100m, we'll hold him back for a contest in the UK against another brit whose been wacked 3 times for £1m? Get real.
You think I live in La La Land? Where the hell do you get £100 million from?
Brook v Mayweather is not a huge fight at all. Brook has had his belt for 5 minutes and made his last defence against Frankie Gavin. He's not some all-conquering world beater that the US networks are clamouring to see in a ring with Floyd.
Shit, and people think Khan is a hype job. Brook is a decent fighter and might turn out to be a great one, but he's got one decent name on his record in the shape of Porter, who is not exactly some top p4p King.
I don't hear Hearn or Brook making any big noise about a fight with Mayweather. If they wanted the fight they'd be making every effort to get it and they're not. I suppose there is an outside chance that something could be quietly going on behind the scenes with nothing public being mentioned until after the Rios fight, but I doubt it.
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
Based on their best wins. Brook over Porter and Khans over Alexander you have to give Brook the edge in bringing more to the table in a fight with Floyd. A world title and unbeaten record and prime of his career. Khan doesn’t bring those things although it could be argued he is still at his peak, you could also argue that since the loss to Garcia he hasn’t risked it with a puncher and didn’t look good in his last fight
Stylewise Khan may represent more of a threat but again theres not much in it. Brook handles pressure fighters better than Amir but it’s not relevant when matched against Floyd. Amirs suspect chin would unlikely be a factor also considering that Floyd does not atop or attempt to stop his opponents. Id be more nervous training Amir and sending him out there to face Floyd than I would with Brook because the Sheffield champ is assured to be lasting the distance and its only how he handles the gulf in experience that’s the worry. With Khan we know he has lapses in concentration, loses sight of the gameplan and even if he is doing well it can all become unstuck at any time which is less likely to happen with Brook. Should Floyd got the shortlist down to just these two and had to pick the opponent based on who would bring in the crowd, make the money risk vs reward etc I think Brook would get the nod. I don’t think Floyd would contemplate losing to these guys but it would be more acceptable losing to Brook than Khan which may factor into his consideration. He may see Brook as being easier to time & catch.
Amir makes more mistake to capitalise on but has the kind of handspeed that Judah and Mosley caused him problems with so at his age he’d be looking for the slower of the two. He may aslo think that his rep could take a hit if he didn’t stop Khan whereas he wouldn’t be expected to to stop Brook so its the safer option. He can also look good vs Brook who cant match him for speed and may go the same way as Alvarez did but the rushes from Khan at times may give Floyd something to think about. These are the reasons I reckon hed pick Brook but its ashame we cant see him fight both.
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
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Based on their best wins. Brook over Porter and Khans over Alexander you have to give Brook the edge in bringing more to the table in a fight with Floyd. A world title and unbeaten record and prime of his career. Khan doesn’t bring those things although it could be argued he is still at his peak, you could also argue that since the loss to Garcia he hasn’t risked it with a puncher and didn’t look good in his last fight
Stylewise Khan may represent more of a threat but again theres not much in it. Brook handles pressure fighters better than Amir but it’s not relevant when matched against Floyd. Amirs suspect chin would unlikely be a factor also considering that Floyd does not atop or attempt to stop his opponents. Id be more nervous training Amir and sending him out there to face Floyd than I would with Brook because the Sheffield champ is assured to be lasting the distance and its only how he handles the gulf in experience that’s the worry. With Khan we know he has lapses in concentration, loses sight of the gameplan and even if he is doing well it can all become unstuck at any time which is less likely to happen with Brook. Should Floyd got the shortlist down to just these two and had to pick the opponent based on who would bring in the crowd, make the money risk vs reward etc I think Brook would get the nod. I don’t think Floyd would contemplate losing to these guys but it would be more acceptable losing to Brook than Khan which may factor into his consideration. He may see Brook as being easier to time & catch.
Amir makes more mistake to capitalise on but has the kind of handspeed that Judah and Mosley caused him problems with so at his age he’d be looking for the slower of the two. He may aslo think that his rep could take a hit if he didn’t stop Khan whereas he wouldn’t be expected to to stop Brook so its the safer option. He can also look good vs Brook who cant match him for speed and may go the same way as Alvarez did but the rushes from Khan at times may give Floyd something to think about. These are the reasons I reckon hed pick Brook but its ashame we cant see him fight both.
kotelnik, maidana, judah, mab, algiri, collazo
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
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Based on their best wins. Brook over Porter and Khans over Alexander you have to give Brook the edge in bringing more to the table in a fight with Floyd. A world title and unbeaten record and prime of his career. Khan doesn’t bring those things although it could be argued he is still at his peak, you could also argue that since the loss to Garcia he hasn’t risked it with a puncher and didn’t look good in his last fight
Stylewise Khan may represent more of a threat but again theres not much in it. Brook handles pressure fighters better than Amir but it’s not relevant when matched against Floyd. Amirs suspect chin would unlikely be a factor also considering that Floyd does not atop or attempt to stop his opponents. Id be more nervous training Amir and sending him out there to face Floyd than I would with Brook because the Sheffield champ is assured to be lasting the distance and its only how he handles the gulf in experience that’s the worry. With Khan we know he has lapses in concentration, loses sight of the gameplan and even if he is doing well it can all become unstuck at any time which is less likely to happen with Brook. Should Floyd got the shortlist down to just these two and had to pick the opponent based on who would bring in the crowd, make the money risk vs reward etc I think Brook would get the nod. I don’t think Floyd would contemplate losing to these guys but it would be more acceptable losing to Brook than Khan which may factor into his consideration. He may see Brook as being easier to time & catch.
Amir makes more mistake to capitalise on but has the kind of handspeed that Judah and Mosley caused him problems with so at his age he’d be looking for the slower of the two. He may aslo think that his rep could take a hit if he didn’t stop Khan whereas he wouldn’t be expected to to stop Brook so its the safer option. He can also look good vs Brook who cant match him for speed and may go the same way as Alvarez did but the rushes from Khan at times may give Floyd something to think about. These are the reasons I reckon hed pick Brook but its ashame we cant see him fight both.
kotelnik, maidana, judah, mab, algiri, collazo
Exactly. I still think Khan's performance against Alexander was greater than Brook's against Porter. Porter, on paper is a slightly stronger win given Porter beat Alexander (stylistically he is a nightmare for someone like Alexander), but Khan completely dominated Alexander. Brook vs Porter was really close.
Regardless of what you think about that, Khan's wins over Kotelnik, Diaz, Maidana, Judah, Paulie, Agieri and Collazo trump anything else Brook has done. Senchenko JoJo Dan and Carson Jones don't cut it. Neither will a win over Juan Diaz give he's really a lightweight and his best form was 5 or 6 years ago.
The only other thing going for Brook is the fact he is Champ. But since when did that mean anything.
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
Silly as it may seem, I'd give Khan more chance (slim one) of pulling off an upset against Floyd than beating Porter.
All the fighter's that give Khan trouble - ignoring the ones that have chinned him - have been able to walk him down and constantly pressure him - Peterson, Maidana, Diaz and Algieri.
Khan would never keep Porter off, get manhandled all round the ring then try and punch with him on the inside and get chinned.
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Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!
It's not about who has the best wins, though. It's about what fight makes more sense and means more to Mayweather's legacy.
Floyd beats Khan... so what? He's been beaten 3 times by guys not even close to being in Floyd's league. Even if Floyd knocked Khan out in 30 seconds, it'd be "so what, Khan has no chin".
Brook is a 10 year veteran with an undefeated record and a win over one of the best WW's and he's currently Ring magazine's #1 WW behind champ Mayweather.
