Dylan Roof no less a TERRORIST than Muslim jihadists

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We probably agree that it's a shame that inadequate twisted misfit loners can get hold of guns quite as easily as they do. That's the case in lots of countries, not just America.

I was quite humbled by how the victims families carried themselves, refusing to turn this into a wider racial argument and even forgiving their killers. Most Christians and Muslims should look at that as an example of spiritual purity.

Incidentally, I'm surprised at the angst about those two pond life women who took their nine kids to Syria ...... good riddance to the lot of them, think about the benefits we are saving now they've gone. With a bit of luck they will all be killed at something. Nice.:cool:

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Don't you know the husbands are now blaming the Police for radicalising them , you couldn't make this shit up. lol

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

It enrages me that journalists and politicians will bend over backwards to say "not all Muslims" after terrorist attacks but this sort of tragedy occurs and it's "ALL" gun owners, "ALL" white people, "ALL" Southerners....n

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Hmmmm that's a good point!

Blanket statements are bad... unless of course they're aimed at whitey. :rolleyes:

Listen world... it ain't whitey... it ain't whitey.

Fact is... 9 black people got shot by a white guy. It sucks, it's sad, it's a tragedy, and I think they should kill Dylann Roof because he's a piece of shit no good motherfucker.

But how many black people will get gunned down by other blacks this weekend? And next weekend? How about tomorrow?

It ain't whitey... nah, it ain't whitey...

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You 2 need counselling.

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They have a point , Islam is committing terrorism in a number of places in the name of religion.
I don't see many people condoning the shootings in the black church , howeVer we have people like chowdry on the streets of Britain preaching hate. I am sick and tired of Islam in the civilised world , if you done like the western world then fuck off to Saudi Arabia.

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And I am sure the Muslim world is sick of war in the name of British multinational resource extraction agencies. Why don't they fuck off back to the North Sea?

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How are things in Korea ? life all good there ?

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Originally Posted by X

We probably agree that it's a shame that inadequate twisted misfit loners can get hold of guns quite as easily as they do. That's the case in lots of countries, not just America.

I was quite humbled by how the victims families carried themselves, refusing to turn this into a wider racial argument and even forgiving their killers. Most Christians and Muslims should look at that as an example of spiritual purity.

Incidentally, I'm surprised at the angst about those two pond life women who took their nine kids to Syria ...... good riddance to the lot of them, think about the benefits we are saving now they've gone. With a bit of luck they will all be killed at something. Nice.:cool:

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I would agree with your post but what choice does a 3 year old have or any of the kids with a radicalised mum?

Master, the kids have no choice at all at that age. Of course I agree with you on that ..... but it's not the State's job to decide how people should bring up their kids either - the dad somehow blaming the police for radicalising the women is also laughable. Talk about a victim mentality!

Fuck the lot of them, i say.

It's easier for me to just spout that on the internet than to worry my pretty little head about complex social issues. ;D

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

It enrages me that journalists and politicians will bend over backwards to say "not all Muslims" after terrorist attacks but this sort of tragedy occurs and it's "ALL" gun owners, "ALL" white people, "ALL" Southerners....n

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Hmmmm that's a good point!

Blanket statements are bad... unless of course they're aimed at whitey. :rolleyes:

Listen world... it ain't whitey... it ain't whitey.

Fact is... 9 black people got shot by a white guy. It sucks, it's sad, it's a tragedy, and I think they should kill Dylann Roof because he's a piece of shit no good motherfucker.

But how many black people will get gunned down by other blacks this weekend? And next weekend? How about tomorrow?

It ain't whitey... nah, it ain't whitey...

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You 2 need counselling.

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They have a point , Islam is committing terrorism in a number of places in the name of religion.
I don't see many people condoning the shootings in the black church , howeVer we have people like chowdry on the streets of Britain preaching hate. I am sick and tired of Islam in the civilised world , if you done like the western world then fuck off to Saudi Arabia.

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And I am sure the Muslim world is sick of war in the name of British multinational resource extraction agencies. Why don't they fuck off back to the North Sea?

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How are things in Korea ? life all good there ?

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Just dandy, ta for asking.

In case you missed it, I was inverting what you said with something factual. You probably laughed into your tea. The anger and bitterness and hate was all your own. Bwahahaha!

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Master, the kids have no choice at all at that age. Of course I agree with you on that ..... but it's not the State's job to decide how people should bring up their kids either - the dad somehow blaming the police for radicalising the women is also laughable. Talk about a victim mentality!

Fuck the lot of them, i say.

It's easier for me to just spout that on the internet than to worry my pretty little head about complex social issues. ;D

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The reason the dad’s said that was because the police encouraged the sisters to stay in communication with their brother which resulted in them being radicalised and taking the kids. The state should protect children and vulnerable adults who can not help themselves.

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Originally Posted by Master

The state should protect children and vulnerable adults who can not help themselves.

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.....to me that seems rather dangerous....but that's just me

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Plenty of Muslims live peacefully and happily in the west.

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This is true, but they also have views and values that don't fit in with our society. It's not just about terrorism, it's also the oppressive, sexist, homophobic, ect views that are innate in Islam.

We've had issues here in Canada where a lot of them just can't function within our society. We've had issues with them demanding to wear niqab's on passports and government IDs, demanding that women be segregated from them in certain formal settings (university classes, ect), demanding dedicated prayer centres in schools, even though all religion has been taken out of public schools. This is a belief system that promotes apostasy as well as the execution of homosexuals. These ideas have no place in our Western world.

It's not strictly against Muslims: as an agnostic, I'm not for any religion getting special privileges and rules based on what imaginary man in the sky they choose to believe in. Freedom of religion and the promotion of multiculturalism shouldn't mean that a certain religion gets to call their own shots and disrespect the law and culture of the land. In these cases, I think it's best for both parties that they keep their asses over in the middle east.

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For sure I know it isn't just terrorism. I'm not blinkered about this. Far from it. I don't agree with forced wearing of the burka, I don't agree with forced marriage, I don't agree with....I could go on.

I also feel that if you choose to live in a country a balance has to be struck between allowing you freedom of religion etc and the laws and conventions of that country. And if your beliefs run counter to that countries laws or culture then you should not practice said beliefs. Couldn't agree more.

The only people I have an issue with are bigots that hate all Muslims because they are Muslims. Even if said Muslim does none of the things mentioned above. People that have expressed a desire to 'shoot Muslims' because ' I hate Muslims'.
They aren't coming from the same place of analysis as you.

I have a lot of respect for the Muslims dedication to prayer.