Okay bro so because Floyd wasn't blowing up to 140+ he wasn't a true FW either?
See sense bro. That's just Floyd. He can't make 144. He's a welterweight. Fact.
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Okay bro so because Floyd wasn't blowing up to 140+ he wasn't a true FW either?
See sense bro. That's just Floyd. He can't make 144. He's a welterweight. Fact.
Robinson would get exposed again as he has lost in the past.
We still dont know how to beat floyd.
Let me put it simply for you and anyone else who may be confused.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus
If we took every top 50 WW, took their "unofficial fight time" weight and averaged it off, we'd get a certain number. Obviously we'd have to actually do that to get a real accurate number, but judging by the unofficial weight data I've seen and what I know about cutting weight, I'd estimate it at around 10lbs over the "weigh in weight".
So the average WW weighs in at 147, rehydrates, and comes into the ring weighing around 157. Some guys come in more (Maidana came in at 165, Ortiz 162), some guys I'm sure come in less than that. But we're talking on average.
That unofficial weight is the TRUE size of the WW, because to make 147 they temporarily removed as much water from their bodies as possible. Keith Thurman is not a 147lb man, neither is Porter, Kel Brook, ect. I think we all understand that.
What I'm telling you is that Floyd's TRUE weight, the weight he comes into the ring as, is VERY far below the average WW unofficial weight. Floyd's true unofficial weight is at or below the average true weight of a Jr WW. I guarantee you there are LWs who come into the ring heavier than Floyd does fighting at WW.
So for that reason, I consider Floyd undersized at WW. Is he technically a WW, in that he can make the WW limit? Of course. But he is going to be giving up weight against virtually every opponent he faces.
Robinson could have retired with a 0 very easily if he had to.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
I don't understand what is so hard to understand that Robinson wasn't a welter like it is today. He didn't rehydrate to 160. The time he lost to LaMotta, he weighed 144 while LaMotta weighed 160. He weighed in the same day. Floyd now, probably walked around at the same weight as a prime Robinson.
I could be wrong but somebody prove that Robinson walked around at 160 or so in between fights. He even said that he could have made 135 which shows that he wasn't that big.
Beanflicker is Mayweather is lower then welterweight then why could he not cut down to 144 against jmm i think he is about 150 maybe a few more pounds at his walk around weight he not big ww. Mayweather you could say pretty much lost to Jlc alrthough won the rematch Robinson avenged his lose to a mw like billion times. I think that if Mayweather fought 170 fights a lose would come up like it did Robinson not sure he could even fight that much because of his hands. Robinson fought way past his duo date and fought alot its a wear and tear thing really which can cause fighters to go down when there body fails them. If Robinson fought 49 times with some breathing room between fights i am sure he could pull off not losing a fight its not that far off to think that he could do it.
Yeah I think Beanflicker is confusing the words BIG and TRUE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
Also. I've only just learned that SRR only weight in at 157 for the light heavyweight fight against Joey Maxim.
I don't go on Boxrec a great deal any more, as I used to spend far too long looking at names as a means to study careers!