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Just in time for Match of the day...
As someone that spent a week in hospital as a teenager with a busted back (sciatica), and spent a life suffering, I can confirm a sudden state of being paralysed happens.
I gave 4 winning bets in 3 fights. High five myself
I've got 4 out of 4 so far just need Groves and Mayweather to both win on points and I've won 59 quidQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Adonis is on spike TV now! Channel 160 sky.
AJ looked good I can't see Whyte lasting more 4 rounds when they meet.
Will be interesting because I think Whyte takes a good shot and id also bet he has better stamina.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
Joshuas put on 20lbs of muscle in under 2 years and is yet to even experience the 4th round. Those muscle fibres will be a massive drain on his energy in a fast paced fight. Look what Happened to Haye the forst time he faced a tough fighter in Thompson. He rapidly faded when he didnt fall over.
Cornish hadnt faced anyone nearly decent. He couldnt even stop big Larry!! If hed have continued pumping his jab out I think it would have got interesting but he tried trading. He didnt look as in shape as he normally does either.
Joshua is strong but he litterally no experience yet and Whyte is a far more dangerous and I think tougher fighter than hes ever faced and the jump in class could be too much.
I'd say Whyte would be another easy night for Joshua.
He seemed to lack some basic boxing skills in his fight with a former cruiserweight and just potshotted the opponent. It got the job done, but allowed himself to get hit too much.
Apart from a 1-2 combo, what has Whyte got that can trouble Joshua?
When they meet, I give it 2 rounds before Whyte tastes the canvas.
AJ must be giving his team a nightmare, he's still a baby in terms of experience and they are struggling to find anyone to test him.
He needs to go up against a genuine threat, his power should get him through it and hopefully he would have a tough fight and learn something from it, if he was to get beat then he could still come back from it, they are just scared a loss on his record would mean lower ticket sales, unfortunately with Sky at the helm that's the more important than his development
How can it be a "jump in class?" AJ has already fought plenty of fighters that have mixed in world class. Whyte hasn't fought anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Is Whyte the most dangerous opponent for AJ so far? Yes. He's young, unbeaten, fearless, has a serious dig, has shared a ring with Joshua before and I too think he looks like a genuine hard cunt that wont roll over when he gets smacked in the mouth.
I have to say I agree, Whyte won't roll over when he gets smacked in the mouth, I think he'll just lie flat on his back, I don't think he will give AJ any troubleQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterHow can it be a "jump in class?" AJ has already fought plenty of fighters that have mixed in world class. Whyte hasn't fought anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Is Whyte the most dangerous opponent for AJ so far? Yes. He's young, unbeaten, fearless, has a serious dig, has shared a ring with Joshua before and I too think he looks like a genuine hard cunt that wont roll over when he gets smacked in the mouth.
Joshua v whyte will be exciting as both are punchers , looking forward to it.
Do you guys think Joshua would be better joining Peter fury so he can put on 80lb of fat ?
Joshua has not done many rounds either so if they do not knock one another out early they will be huffing and puffing after 6 rounds.
Please do not make Joshua v Whyte a ppv fight.
Might get him a world title challenge as well;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Ross AJ will beat Whyte, remember watching him in Liverpool he was devastating mate, and
he is getting better with every outing.;)
Joshua defiantly needs 80lbs of fat , also instead of beating guys like Johnson in the second round he would be far better throwing arm punches from a southpaw stance and going the full distance. What's the point of knocking people out early when you can fiddle your way to a points win , and also do lots of holding and wrestling.
It is a double edge sword really because his ripped physical for reminds me very much of the ripped Steve Cunningham ,who as we all know is he of the finest HW's of the modern era.
What do you guys think ?
Who you talking about Al:rolleyes:, not our man from Manchester the tarmac King.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
I was just thinking out loud Richie .Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoWho you talking about Al:rolleyes:, not our man from Manchester the tarmac King.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Were you now,! no Christmas card off Ross now.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlI was just thinking out loud Richie .Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoWho you talking about Al:rolleyes:, not our man from Manchester the tarmac King.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Going the full distance makes sense, but risking being put to the canvas by a lucky punch from the opponent isnt.
Until someone can resist the initial Joshua onslaught, he should continue what he does.
Yes fighting guys who will allow you to jab and throw arm punches for 12 rounds is defiantly the way forward , also why does Joshua hit guys so hard ? If he went southpaw he could probably get more rounds in.Quote:
Originally Posted by sanatogen
Does he need to fight more CW's rather than unbeaten prospects?
Yes it makes sense to go the distance, but with who,? I would love to NO he hits them theyQuote:
Originally Posted by sanatogen
fall over simple, boxing is a funny game you can't win you ko your opponent, he was crap, you
go the distance, your not that good,!!!!:vd: boxing fans are a strange breed.;)
The thing is is that he is smack bang in the middle of two levels at the minute that's where the problem is, the bums are not giving him any experience at all and the elite may have too much for him at the moment.
I think AJ will duff him up too. But I get the impression Whyte is a man that needs to be knocked unconscious. He really is a proper bad man. I don't think he'll shit himself when AJ is blasting himQuote:
Originally Posted by BatmanI have to say I agree, Whyte won't roll over when he gets smacked in the mouth, I think he'll just lie flat on his back, I don't think he will give AJ any troubleQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterHow can it be a "jump in class?" AJ has already fought plenty of fighters that have mixed in world class. Whyte hasn't fought anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Is Whyte the most dangerous opponent for AJ so far? Yes. He's young, unbeaten, fearless, has a serious dig, has shared a ring with Joshua before and I too think he looks like a genuine hard cunt that wont roll over when he gets smacked in the mouth.
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Originally Posted by FensterI think AJ will duff him up too. But I get the impression Whyte is a man that needs to be knocked unconscious. He really is a proper bad man. I don't think he'll shit himself when AJ is blasting himQuote:
Originally Posted by BatmanI have to say I agree, Whyte won't roll over when he gets smacked in the mouth, I think he'll just lie flat on his back, I don't think he will give AJ any troubleQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterHow can it be a "jump in class?" AJ has already fought plenty of fighters that have mixed in world class. Whyte hasn't fought anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Is Whyte the most dangerous opponent for AJ so far? Yes. He's young, unbeaten, fearless, has a serious dig, has shared a ring with Joshua before and I too think he looks like a genuine hard cunt that wont roll over when he gets smacked in the mouth.
Fenster do you think AJ should be limited to how many power punches he can throw in a round , so he can go longer distances ? or perhaps pillows on his gloves ?
Maybe then a guy like Kingpin may have lasted the distance ?
What are your thoughts ?
Well I guess there are some fans that prefer to watch powderpuff punching heavyweights run around the ring for ten rounds than watch arguably the most exciting, explosive heavyweight since a prime Tyson.
If Joshua had less power and more flab he would be better .
Are you saying he needs to be more like the great white dope, Dark Lord al?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
;D
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Originally Posted by rossAre you saying he needs to be more like the great white dope, Dark Lord al?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
;D
Not really I just think its unfair that they allow Joshua to hit guys so hard and score knockouts , it needs evening up or it is just unfair on others.
Finally caught up with this weekend's action , which I had to record because I was working
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5CVsCnxyXg
There's no Doubt Whyte is gonna have a go, and when he gets tagged, he's not gonna roll over and take the dough. Nonetheless after watching both of them Saturday, I still reckon he'll go the same way as the rest of Joshua's opponents in the end.
Infact, it wouldn't surprise me if Hearn Arranges for Ian John Lewis to ref , and that way he can jump in way too early as per so that there's absolutely no chance of Whyte getting a haymaker in Whilst under pressure.
I hope Whyte wins just to see Hearns and the sky boxing gimp producers face.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Apples and Oranges though. Even if you discount both fights from Saturday, Joshua is tidier, more efficient and seems to have the solid fundamentals down pat, then on top of that he has big stopping power. Really never thought Whyte has displayed anything much but scrappy basics and a string of KO's.
He is sharp but is he tough? We wont find that out u til he faces someone like Whyte who will come with belief and a desire to hurt Joshua. I mean, how good is Cornish? Never faced anyone decent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
Boxing is where only the strongest survive. You can have a good jab, big power etc but you need to be able to take someone giving it out, fight back, have stamina over the distance etc. Look at Bruno, had everything, a nice ramrod jab but just faded because he cared too much what he looked like in the mirror. I still think Joshuas infatuation with bodybuilding is going to be a major downfall.
Even if he does make Whyte look like an amateur novice in the first few rounds what happens when Whyte hangs in there and just takes it and keeps punching back? Once it gets past 4 rounds and Joshua has shot his bolt trying to finish Whyte off that extra 20lb of muscle (I guarantee he will be heavier still for Whyte) is going to be a massive burden on his energy and he will become a sitting duck as the fight progresses.
I think Whyte is going to pick up where Chisora has left off. He'll give a few decent people a row but I don't see him making it to the top.
The build up should be decent. Whyte can barely control himself when Joshua is around. He's going to go full postal at some point.
This is the test we've been waiting for, Whyte is crude and limited skill wise but he's gonna have to be banged out for the count to be beaten.
I hope he flies at AJ and lands bombs on him before AJ can land his own.
At this stage of his career AJ needs to be smashed back hard by someone because Teper for the Euro belt can bang too and after that hes going for a belt holder and the deep end.
My gut feeling Is that Joshua could beat any Heavyweight in the division if he fought them tomorrow with his power alone.
I rate him that highly ;)
I don't and think Whyte will beat him.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
For anyone that thinks Whyte wins he's 10/1. Happy Christmas. (i'm tempted to have a couple of bob on that even though I think he'll get splattered)
So if I put £1 I win £10? I would be rich.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Yeah.. £10 will cover your christmas with something to spare. High five