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To spell out what you already know: It is ignorant when the 'intelligent' Conservatives along with the naive masses get hysterical over a ridiculous threat like ISISQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
So you don't have an answer in your big bag of 'Critical Theory'? Just run of the mill insults then?.....Uh, thanks, I guess :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by Britkid
Particularly when the Conservatives mentioned know ISIS's way of gaining notoriety.
Ok then so nothing still?Quote:
Originally Posted by BritkidTo spell out what you already know: It is ignorant when the 'intelligent' Conservatives along with the naive masses get hysterical over a ridiculous threat like ISISQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongSo you don't have an answer in your big bag of 'Critical Theory'? Just run of the mill insults then?.....Uh, thanks, I guess :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by Britkid
Particularly when the Conservatives mentioned know ISIS's way of gaining notoriety.
Isis has recently threatened the white house, Times square and the Pentagon. Strains have recently been caught in Costa Rico, at the Mexican border and other south American countries. There is a lot of activity.
I bet the 20 bombs the french dropped before and after the paris incident only killed isis fighters...no innocent people were killed..yea right.
All as bad as each other and no one knows the truth.
We need to start all over again on another planet and leave religion way behind.
If you ask Muslims ISIS is not Muslim they are "bandits" or Jewish /AmericanQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
true enough Lyle but I cant resist saying Bush was one of the idiots who thought handing out candy and flowers to Iraqis would win them over "hearts & minds", bwAAAHAHAHAQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Britkid
Well I've seen enough movies to know that if we LOVE our enemies and welcome them with open arms they'll have a crisis of conscious and end up befriending us.
Besides ISIS isn't even Muslim....it's Jewish or American....I mean see for yourself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWOF0_yARfw
Well that COULD have been the case, the issue with the War in Iraq was the small holding force Donald Rumsfeld chose and W backed him on. One could only think "What could have happened if a REAL occupying force been in place after Saddam fell?"Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
But hindsight is 20/20
You're talking about half a million troops then right ? because I think they had something like 200,000 in there at one pointQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongWell that COULD have been the case, the issue with the War in Iraq was the small holding force Donald Rumsfeld chose and W backed him on. One could only think "What could have happened if a REAL occupying force been in place after Saddam fell?"Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
But hindsight is 20/20
Not until AFTER the troop surge and in that case we had paid to keep some groups from fighting as well (how fucking dumb is that?). We needed an occupying force IMMEDIATELY after the fall of Baghdad and the capture of Saddam in order to keep sectarians from seeing the lack of a head of the nation as carte blanche to get retribution on their enemies from the Saddam regime.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustYou're talking about half a million troops then right ? because I think they had something like 200,000 in there at one pointQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongWell that COULD have been the case, the issue with the War in Iraq was the small holding force Donald Rumsfeld chose and W backed him on. One could only think "What could have happened if a REAL occupying force been in place after Saddam fell?"Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
But hindsight is 20/20
There needed to be a normalization, there needed to be concessions made by the majority in order to keep the minority pleased with being "Iraqi" which is still a foreign feeling to most of those folks. All groups needed to be represented in the rebuilding of that nation and the only way they'd cooperate is through a show of force so overwhelming they wouldn't dare fight back.....now seizing Iraq was a piece of cake, holding it and implementing a plan to keep peace was where the fuck up really started.
But that's MY view, I think VC would probably have a better understanding.