Why Wladimir Klitschko is a better heavyweight than Lennox Lewis

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Originally Posted by jamestoney

klitschko has never be knocked down never mind knocked out. he lost 2 fight but was winning on points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so never really lost.
Sharon briggs has knocked lewis down, hasim has knocked out lewis never mind knock down. yaaaaawwnn so has oliver mcall
my hand are tired now.

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Wladimir Klitschko hasn't proved nothin'.

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Originally Posted by drgoodlooking

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Originally Posted by jamestoney

klitschko has never be knocked down never mind knocked out. he lost 2 fight but was winning on points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so never really lost.
Sharon briggs has knocked lewis down, hasim has knocked out lewis never mind knock down. yaaaaawwnn so has oliver mcall
my hand are tired now.

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Wladimir Klitschko hasn't proved nothin'.

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That is a double negative.Negative + Negative = Positive.That means you think he has proven something. ;D

Quite possibly the most insane thread I have read.................ever.

I'm thinking the guy who started it is winding us up. There is no way Wlad can compare to Lennox on either acheivment or ability. Even if Wlad goes on to beat Byrd and Rahman, he doesn't come close, Lennox at his best would have literally wiped the floor with those two.

Only two losses in Lennox career, the first one due to inexperience (and not against Ross Purity either) and the second one due to severe lack of conditioning, plus he came back to avenge both emphatically.

I'll give the older Klit credit though, he was never in his profesional career behind on points and lost two very technical knockouts, however even he couldn't come close to beating a prime and in shape Lewis. Wlad however is an alphabet champion at best.

Lennox is the best heavyweight of this era period. No one can say wlad is better than lewis. Anyone who does, please get your head checked. Vitali had the potential to be the best of this era, but for one reason or another it never happened, which is exactly why wlad isn't gonna be the best of this era either.

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Originally Posted by p4pking

Everything you say here actually counters your Klitschko brothers my friend.. Because Kirk Johnson is a much much different fighter and so Lewis not only didn't prepare properly for Vitali but he bulked up and was prepared to go up against Kirk Johnson who is/was a much more physical fighter.. In spite of his being conditioned completely wrong against Vitali he still opened up one of the worst cuts I have ever seen, at least on TV.. Lewis was heaving badly early in the fight and he wasn't sharp with his jab or anything, he was prepared for a completely different fight, and thus he had to fight plodding forwards forcing the action, a way I had never seen him fight before, and he did still open a trech on the guy's face.. I have no doubt that he would have beat Vitali with relative ease at his best, and against Wlad it couldn't possibly be close imo.. Theres no way Wlad wouldn't eat one good right hand and well, he couldn't take it whatsoever.

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#1 Everyone bulks up for Vitali too
#2 Kirk is NOT a more physical fighter than Vitali
#3 Lewis was just plain old, not "out of shape" not "under trained", just old
#4 Vitali was planing to fight Leo Nolan or someone of that nature so he had a FAR greater step up in class than Lewis did, Johnson was at least top 20-30 whereas Nolan is a nobody
#5 Lennox has had a history of tough fights with taller fighters especially ones who can jab with him!
-Ray Mercer
-Shannon Briggs
-Evander Holyfield
-Zeljko Mavoric
-Oliver McCall
-Tony Tucker

I'm not saying at Lewis' peak he wouldn't have beaten Vitali but it would still have been a very difficult fight for him.

hang on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Everyone question will be answered
LEWIS PREPARED 12 WEEKS BEFORE THE FIGHT AND HE WAS VERY LUCKY TO HAVE WEIGHT VERY HEAVY BECAUSE THAT WHAT HELPED HIM TO GET THAT CUT. VITALI ONLY PERPARED 11 DAYS BEFORE THE FIGHT, BUT MADE LEWIS LOOK OUT OF SHAPE.
I KEPT TELLING PEOPLE THERE WILL BE NO REMATCH, BECAUSE LEWIS WAS SCARED TO GIVE KLITSCHKO A REMATCH, THINKING WHAT KLITSCHKO WOULD DO IS PREAPARED PROPERLY

THIS A FACT KLITSCHKO WOULD HAVE KNOCKED OUT LEWIS IN A REMATCH AS HE HAS WITH EVERY FIGHTER, BUT LEWIS KNOCK RATIO IS CRAAAAPPPP. hE COULD'T KNOCK RAY MERCER DOWN ,' SINCE YOUNGER BABY KLITSCHKO HAS IN HIS PAST.
DON'T FORGET LENNOX GAVE HIS BEST SHOT AT HEAVIEST WEIGHT AGAINST KLITSCHKO, UPERCUT HOOKS EVERYTHING. iF LEWIS COME IN AT A LIGHTER WAY, HE WOULD HAVE GOT KNOCKED OUT IN 2ND ROUND WHICH HE NEARLY DID.

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Originally Posted by jamestoney

hang on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Everyone question will be answered
LEWIS PREPARED 12 WEEKS BEFORE THE FIGHT AND HE WAS VERY LUCKY TO HAVE WEIGHT VERY HEAVY BECAUSE THAT WHAT HELPED HIM TO GET THAT CUT. VITALI ONLY PERPARED 11 DAYS BEFORE THE FIGHT, BUT MADE LEWIS LOOK OUT OF SHAPE.
I KEPT TELLING PEOPLE THERE WILL BE NO REMATCH, BECAUSE LEWIS WAS SCARED TO GIVE KLITSCHKO A REMATCH, THINKING WHAT KLITSCHKO WOULD DO IS PREAPARED PROPERLY

THIS A FACT KLITSCHKO WOULD HAVE KNOCKED OUT LEWIS IN A REMATCH AS HE HAS WITH EVERY FIGHTER, BUT LEWIS KNOCK RATIO IS CRAAAAPPPP. hE COULD'T KNOCK RAY MERCER DOWN ,' SINCE YOUNGER BABY KLITSCHKO HAS IN HIS PAST.
DON'T FORGET LENNOX GAVE HIS BEST SHOT AT HEAVIEST WEIGHT AGAINST KLITSCHKO, UPERCUT HOOKS EVERYTHING. iF LEWIS COME IN AT A LIGHTER WAY, HE WOULD HAVE GOT KNOCKED OUT IN 2ND ROUND WHICH HE NEARLY DID.

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Look mate this forum is known to be mainly of great posters who now alot about boxing, i think you would find you and your Russian mate or wherever your from would be more suited to this site www.eastsideboxing.com, where 90% of them no as much about boxing as you do.

I'll let you guess to what level of boxing knowledge i think you have. Check the site out you will find your answer there.

its a fact that klitschko would have knocked out lewis in a rematch my arse! lewis had trained yes, but for a total different fighter, and klitschko was the younger fighter who was as a profesional athlete in shape. i seem to remember lewis was ahead on the score cards at the time of the stoppage, and yes he was a bit plump. lewis was a brilliant boxer jamestoney and your not going to convince anyone any less when most boxing fans know that lewis had wins over peeps like bruno, morrison, tyson, tua, VITALI KLITSCHKO, holyfield, rahman to name but a few. they were the best around!

well vitali has blown all british fighters in 2 round
herbie hide
julius francis

I DON'T CARE HOW HEAVY OR LIGHT LENNOX COME IN AGAINST KLITSCHKO, VITALI WOULD BLOW HIM AWAY IN 2 ROUNDS, BUT ONLY IF LENNOX WAS FAIR AND LET KLITSCHKO TRAIN 12 WEEKS BEFORE THE FIGHT, NOT 11 DAYS.
i ACTUALLY BELIEVE LEWIS TRICK WAS TO CALL KLITSCHKO 11 DAYS BEFORE THE FIGHT AND BRIBE KIRK JOHNSON, BECAUSE LEWIS KNOW THERE OTHER CHANCE TO BEAT KLITSCHKO, AND STILL LENNOX NEVER BEAT HIM.

It seems ur brain is small like ur small country
this the proof for vital leading on the score cards
ask me anything am 100% right

http://boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=007033

well i think your dicks small jamestoney. dont bring my country into this, what has that got to do with anything? alright it was a close fight, but i remember it being close and i dont remember lewis ever realy looking in trouble (except for being knakared) or looking close to being knocked out.

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Originally Posted by bilal

well vitali has blown all british fighters in 2 round
herbie hide
julius francis

I DON'T CARE HOW HEAVY OR LIGHT LENNOX COME IN AGAINST KLITSCHKO, VITALI WOULD BLOW HIM AWAY IN 2 ROUNDS, BUT ONLY IF LENNOX WAS FAIR AND LET KLITSCHKO TRAIN 12 WEEKS BEFORE THE FIGHT, NOT 11 DAYS.
i ACTUALLY BELIEVE LEWIS TRICK WAS TO CALL KLITSCHKO 11 DAYS BEFORE THE FIGHT AND BRIBE KIRK JOHNSON, BECAUSE LEWIS KNOW THERE OTHER CHANCE TO BEAT KLITSCHKO, AND STILL LENNOX NEVER BEAT HIM.

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Julias Francis???? Is it actully legal to call him a boxer??? Have you seent his guys record?

Man you need to get a life if your comparing Lennox Lewis to Julius Francis and Herbie Hide.

Easy boys...let's not bring genitalia into this.

Let's all just calm down...no matter what country you hail from. ;D











































































**We all know that Lewis was the superior fighter...now let's move on. ;)

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Originally Posted by jamestoney

It seems ur brain is small like ur small country
this the proof for vital leading on the score cards
ask me anything am 100% right

http://boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=007033

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Ask you anything?

Do you have bigger tittys than James Toney??

I cannot believe people even compare vital to lewis.
vitali has been a world champion kick boxer
a world champion boxer
p.h.d in science
he was gona be a favourite to a mayor of kiev which is the capital of u.k
And if he lost that means he may make a come back to boxing, maybe not because lewis won't give him a rematch. lewis called himself a lion the only lion he seems to be is the one who is in the wizard of oz.
lewis go get a heart so u could have rematch with klitschko, this is true klitschko will come back if lewis will fight him again, well really if lewis want to get licked.
wladimir is the weaker, smaller baby brother of klitschko, and wladimir would destroy lewis because the toughtest fight lennox has been was against ray mercer, anyone fight to close to say who was the winner, and wladimir wiped him out.
The proof of this ic on
boxingrec.com

klitschko was gona be mayor of keive u.k= ukraine
sorry for that

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Originally Posted by bestboxingexpert

I cannot believe people even compare vital to lewis.
vitali has been a world champion kick boxer
a world champion boxer
p.h.d in science
he was gona be a favourite to a mayor of kiev which is the capital of u.k
And if he lost that means he may make a come back to boxing, maybe not because lewis won't give him a rematch. lewis called himself a lion the only lion he seems to be is the one who is in the wizard of oz.
lewis go get a heart so u could have rematch with klitschko, this is true klitschko will come back if lewis will fight him again, well really if lewis want to get licked.
wladimir is the weaker, smaller baby brother of klitschko, and wladimir would destroy lewis because the toughtest fight lennox has been was against ray mercer, anyone fight to close to say who was the winner, and wladimir wiped him out.
The proof of this ic on
boxingrec.com

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Wow has this guy got his whole family to join???

Vitali has a phd, he was a kick boxing champion??

WTF has that got to do with anything, we are talking about there boxing skills, are you and your little possy employed by someone to troll around chatting the biggest load of shit i have ever heard.

Have you and your crew ( or is it the same pathetic little guy) got nothing better to do than have your cock's stuck up the brothers arses.

Okay kids...that's it. Bye.

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Originally Posted by jbirdy

its a fact that klitschko would have knocked out lewis in a rematch my arse! lewis had trained yes, but for a total different fighter, and klitschko was the younger fighter who was as a profesional athlete in shape. i seem to remember lewis was ahead on the score cards at the time of the stoppage, and yes he was a bit plump. lewis was a brilliant boxer jamestoney and your not going to convince anyone any less when most boxing fans know that lewis had wins over peeps like bruno, morrison, tyson, tua, VITALI KLITSCHKO, holyfield, rahman to name but a few. they were the best around!

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Not to add fuel to the fire, of course but Lewis was BEHIND on ALL scorecards at the time of the stoppage

I am a Klitschko fan just like anyone else but jamestoney, boxingexpert, bilal, and all of the other relatively new posters haven't posted anything really worth responding to, so let's just lock the thread then huh....I mean we delete my threads all the time....can we just lock this one up or do I have to call someone a pakki?

THANK YOU....jesus that was irritating!

Can someone please get rid of those jackasses.....the last thing we need is more Jax's....I mean that would take away from his originality.

Lyle did i hear that right you mentioned the word ASIAN!! That's nearly as bad as you being a Liverpool fan ;D

Where did I use asian???

Ive found a picture of the Klitcschko's Army's leader.

They call him Klitschko's bitch




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....sure that ain't Missy???

Top thread ;D

I believe Lewis has an NVQ level 1 in painting and decorating, Klitschko can keep his Phd.

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Originally Posted by Memphis

Top thread ;D

I believe Lewis has an NVQ level 1 in painting and decorating, Klitschko can keep his Phd.

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I thought that was hairdressing??? Hey maybe he has both!! So stick your PHD up your arse, our Lennox can decorate and cut hair and possibly at the same time!!