IMHO it was a clear win once Bradley started to loose his mind. Before that, he was showing pretty good form.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
I'm interested to see if he can hold his nerve for at least 7 rounds this time.
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IMHO it was a clear win once Bradley started to loose his mind. Before that, he was showing pretty good form.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
I'm interested to see if he can hold his nerve for at least 7 rounds this time.
Even if he does it just means Manny is old and better off retired.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimanuel BoogustusIMHO it was a clear win once Bradley started to loose his mind. Before that, he was showing pretty good form.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
I'm interested to see if he can hold his nerve for at least 7 rounds this time.
I am ok with this also. May not be a great swan song for Manny though cause I think there is a good chance he loses. I question what the guy has left as a fighter.
He probably already is.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterEven if he does it just means Manny is old and better off retired.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimanuel BoogustusIMHO it was a clear win once Bradley started to loose his mind. Before that, he was showing pretty good form.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
I'm interested to see if he can hold his nerve for at least 7 rounds this time.
I bet this is PPV just like Floyd v Berto.
If Bradley wins do fights with the Thurman/ Porter winner, Brook or Khan get made? Or does Bradley look towards money fights at 154 with Cotto or Canelo?
First let me say that I believe Tim Bradley will fight any fighter at or around his weight. That being said, Bradley is one of the few top fighters who, in my opinion, really do let their promoter/manager pick their upcoming/next fights. With those facts in mind, I don't see a chance that Bradley fights at 154, or takes an immediate big fight with Brooks, Porter, or Khan. Boxing is a business, and if he wins the Manny fight, his handlers will take a couple of easier opponents while they build up a big money fight further down the line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lineal
Not interested in this... at all...
Manny Pacquiao is fighting this week and no mention of it.
How times are changing.
This idea that easy fights build future fights is so faulty that it's hard to even understand where people get the notion.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeeodFirst let me say that I believe Tim Bradley will fight any fighter at or around his weight. That being said, Bradley is one of the few top fighters who, in my opinion, really do let their promoter/manager pick their upcoming/next fights. With those facts in mind, I don't see a chance that Bradley fights at 154, or takes an immediate big fight with Brooks, Porter, or Khan. Boxing is a business, and if he wins the Manny fight, his handlers will take a couple of easier opponents while they build up a big money fight further down the line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lineal
Yes easy fights maximize earnings because fighters get more fights before losses pile up. But they do nothing to build anything. Think of Danny Garcia after the Matthysse fight, he was a name and had momentum. A few fights later and he's just another guy. Even as he has expanded his resume by gaining another championship in another division he is less of a name and has less appeal.
Big fight after big fight makes future fights bigger. Manny became a star by fighting the Morales', Berrera, Marquez types. Floyd became a star by years of fighting champions. Big fights build the future.
Look at GGG, he's the talk of the sport but he hasn't had big fights so his PPV debut did like 100k in sales.
Frankly any debate that easy fights build fights has no basis in reality.
Danny Garcia may get to fight Floyd for his 50th fight so it may have paid off to fight no one and struggle to keep the title.
he ain't coming back! 😉Quote:
Originally Posted by master
He had that fight waiting for him after the Matthysse fight(big fight) if he wanted it. Now he MAY get it IF Floyd decides he wants a fight and wants Garcia. He gave the Floyd fight away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I'm somewhat interested knowing Bradley imo had a series injury yet fought through it.
Weaker injuries have been Loudly claimed yet Bradley didn't speak much on his.
I still have no interest in this fight. I realized yesterday that this fight was a week away
I actually like the fight. Anytime Bradley fights , it's worth watching , and every time he fights , he's written off as finished. I do hope Bradley wins, and after that I'm not sure who he'll fight. But one thing I do know is that he will fight anyone, unlike the other so-called top WW's.
Dunno about anyone else's opinion of Him, but I'm amazed at how far Pac has gone down in my estimation as a person. I never had him down as an excuse making bullshitter until the last 2 years or so.
Bradley will only fight Top Rank fighters even if he won.
So theyre are showing this fight on premiere sports in the uk which is a subscription channel meaning I won't get to see it til the next morning. Joshua I can't understand costing another 20 quid but crap like this should be on sky sports or boxnation. I subscribe to both and neither are showing boxing on Saturday. I was looking forward Abraham vs Ramirez, guess I'll have to YouTube it
Anyway rant over. I expect a 12 round fight. Pac on points
premiere sports? where did they come from? Joke!!!
And he couldn't get top rank fighters until he became one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Manny seems to have a lot on his mind going into this and wonder even more exactly how focused he is on the payoff after a victory like this. Its too easy for an old dog to get comfortable, especially when they put an expiration date on ring time and are talking about competing in Olympics. Not a bad undercard.
I could see Arum fix the fight so that Bradley becomes the new star if Manny is retiring after this fight.
thing is, arum cant really fix it with that outcome unless Manny takes a dive
if he wins like he did in the first fight everyone will just think hes a cunt again
Amazing how ripped Bradley is, yet so lacking in power.
I wonder how much Arthur Abraham has left. Should be a decent night of fights. I'm still looking for a spot to watch it.
Apparently the odds are tightening up, late money coming in on Bradley. Can't expect a classic, but that does make it a bit more interesting to me.
Especially if/when he falls behind on points.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Atlas will be in rare form.
Teddy: "Bradley...son...we are porn stars."
Bradley: "Yeah .....Jonn Holmes..let's go!!":bananasex:
Atlas: "...and porn stars get deep in that ass. Now turn your fists into a giant Donald Trump sized dick and FUCK HIM!!! FUCK HIM UP!!!!! :puncher:
Bradley: Big dick. .Donald Dick...LET'S GO!!!!" :lifter:
Atlas telling him to fuck Manny in the ass would be fairly poetic indeed, he could even use "We are ANIMALS!!!".
I just don't see the point in it. They don't need a decider, because everyone knows Bradley didn't win the first fight. Just a waste of time fight. Routine Pacquiao points victory. Only interesting element to it is, if Bradley wins, does it diminish Mayweather's achievement by beating Pacquiao?
And if that happens, i hope to god there isn't a 4th fight ;D
I'll start by saying I'm probably biased because Bradley is probably my favourite fighter out there at the moment. But I have to say I'm surprised at how dismissive people in general are about Bradley.
In the 1st fight, Pac probably shaded it, but there wasn't a lot in it, and Bradley finished with a couple of broken ankles somehow. I don't think it was the stonewall robbery people make it out to be. Bear in mind , Pac was seen in some quarters at the time as better than Floyd (:rolleyes:) so it wasn't a bad performance by Bradley.
After that Pac got KO'd by Marquez, while Bradley Schooled him. I'm expecting Bradley to win tonight, I reckon Pac has been finished for some time.
Kinda strange how time has changed. After the great fiasco and the layoff, I haven't been keeping track of Pac and just last week, I was surprised to learn the fight coming up in a week. At this stage of his career, I'll just enjoy the fight without much expectation, win or lose, nothing much problem there, but if he wins big, it's still packs a 'wow!' but of course, I'm not expecting that anymore, just a wild dream.
I see a few sites where i can pay for live stream but dont know the quality l watched one stream years ago and it Kept freezing. But that was free. Any recommendations_ the one i see worth trying is top rank tv
And for any who question mma popularity. I've called several sports bars in the Akron Ohio area. They are all mma sports bars.
I blame work and work related booze. Seems someone broke in and purchased this card on my set :vd:
oh dear really :S..... i am heading to the casino to watch... although i will probably end up spending more than just staying at home and buyoing the ppv :SQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
In opener undefeated Jose Carlos Ramirez gets W.10 over hard as nails Manuel Perez. Ramirez getting a big push with Roach but very big defensive lapses. Perez took a hammering but had some moments, not to mention a busted nose, lip and right ear!
Olympian Oscar Valdez 18-0 vs human windmill and former champ Evgeny Gradovich beginning now. Valdez picking his spots. Gradovich already cut in 1st
Valdez busting Gradovich up
What a finish by Valdez.
Stream round by round can't touch saddo analysis. Thx for informing the crew.
For the record Pac has been great for the sport but I'm rooting for The Storm. Mr. Bradley. via MD.
That's professionalism by Valdez. Selective breakdown over 4 for ko off the left hook! Hope Abraham schools huge Ramirez here.
Stays in the shell and walks to Ramirez who eased up second half 1st. Think he'll be waiting all night if he's wants for Ramirez to tire
Wow. Schools in...Ramirez in control :-X Rocked him bad