Re: Eubank, Benn, Watson and the last golden era of British boxing.
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If Herol Grahm was as good as everyone thinks he was he would have won a world title but unfortunately he didnt have the touness to go with his skill. Even Khan knows how to get through a fight (sometimes).
Ben and Eubank have both come from being behind to doing serious damage to their opponents, Graham would have been no different.
I can see what you're saying, but Graham was a tad unlucky.
He got sparked by arguably the hardest hitting boxer p4p in history, then had to tussle with a true ATG in Mike McCallum & his last title tilt was when he was nearly 40 & he still managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Re: Eubank, Benn, Watson and the last golden era of British boxing.
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If Herol Grahm was as good as everyone thinks he was he would have won a world title but unfortunately he didnt have the touness to go with his skill. Even Khan knows how to get through a fight (sometimes).
Ben and Eubank have both come from being behind to doing serious damage to their opponents, Graham would have been no different.
I can see what you're saying, but Graham was a tad unlucky.
He got sparked by arguably the hardest hitting boxer p4p in history, then had to tussle with a true ATG in Mike McCallum & his last title tilt was when he was nearly 40 & he still managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
That is the story of Herol Graham snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, has there been anyone unluckier?
Re: Eubank, Benn, Watson and the last golden era of British boxing.
graham would have been world champ nowadays
Re: Eubank, Benn, Watson and the last golden era of British boxing.
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graham would have been world champ nowadays
I think GGG probably beats him but stylewise he would love GGG to come at him and would be fun to watch.
Graham would beat Saunders, Junior, Lee, Jacobs and Quillin.
Re: Eubank, Benn, Watson and the last golden era of British boxing.
Ben had to lose 6lb on the day for his fight with Eubank, he lost 2lb running 3 miles on the tread mill fully clothed and 2lb shadowboxing in a sauna for 45 minutes.
Benn lost the fight due to Eubank being the stronger fighter but contributing factors were swollen eye by the thumb and losing the weight on the last day.
Benn’s contract stipulated that he earn 4 times the amount Eubank was to receive. Eubank got £100K.
Hearn said he made no big money on the contract but as Arum did not put options in the contract Hearn could get Eubank to defend the title against whoever he wished.
Re: Eubank, Benn, Watson and the last golden era of British boxing.
22,000 attended the rematch Watson v Eubanks 2 at White Heart Lane. Watson was an Arsenal fan and went into the away dressing room.
Watson injury may have been exacerbated by him landing on the rope causing a whiplash. He was not given oxygen, which helps the injured fighter for a long period. Watson had 2 operations within 24 hours to stop the blood clot. Rod Douglas had the same injury but got the oxygen immediately and lives a normal life but unable to box ever again.
Benn visited Watson regularly and supported him when his house was burgled. Benn did not want the publicity but Watson’s mum insisted people knew.
Re: Eubank, Benn, Watson and the last golden era of British boxing.
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Did Eubank fight different after something happened to wastson i am not sure what it was i really only know about Calzghe at smw well. Was there something that happened that eneded up changing the way that guy fought like he was tad more passive or something.
As Ross said it did make a difference and most of his fights went to points after that and he did not want to finish off his opponent. I read in his book that it did affect him and some woman shouted at him that it should have been him in that coma.
There is also a lesser known incident that his range rovers handbrake failed when he parked it and it rolled in to a road worker and killed them. Hes had some bad luck has Eubank and doesnt deserve alot of the crap he gets. Alot of it is jealousy. British people cant help themselves but berate anyone who believes in themselves and has the bollocks to dare to put their money where their mouth is and then go and win!
Eubank lost control of his range rover as it ran into a building site and killed a labourer.
Someone sprayed murderer on his house.
Re: Eubank, Benn, Watson and the last golden era of British boxing.
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Did Eubank fight different after something happened to wastson i am not sure what it was i really only know about Calzghe at smw well. Was there something that happened that eneded up changing the way that guy fought like he was tad more passive or something.
I had forgotten that Eubank had knocked down Malinga but did not stop him he also knocked down Ray Close and hurt Collins but could not finish them
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A lot of people say the reason that he lost at cw was that he was afraid to pull the trigger and end it. I have not seen the fights but he might of had Thompson out of there if he went for the kill is what i hear a lot of when that fight is talked about going to have to watch it later.
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A lot of people say the reason that he lost at cw was that he was afraid to pull the trigger and end it. I have not seen the fights but he might of had Thompson out of there if he went for the kill is what i hear a lot of when that fight is talked about going to have to watch it later.
The first round of the first Eubank v Thompson fight Eubank looks like he might struggle with the strength of Thompson but the next few rounds hes so sharp! He drops Thompson a couple of times and one of them yes he does back off and then Thompsons strength starts telling later on until Eubanks eye swells completely shut and Eubank loses a close fight on points. They rematched just 3 months later but it wasnt long enough for that eye as it closed again and ahead on points Eubank is stopped for the first time when the doctor pulls him out.
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Benn got Tibbs as his new trainer and one of their agreements was that Nigel never sparred more than 9 rounds at a time. Tibbs said Benn was the most dedicated trainer he had even if Benn was up all night he would always turned up for the morning runs.
When Benn won the WBC super middleweight title in Italy he dedicated it to his deceased brother Andy and also Michael Watson. I had forgotten how close Benn and Watson had become after their fight.
Barry Hearn claimed he won the title for Benn that day because he threatened Cortez that he would phone Jose Sulliman who would sack the lot of them if they did not acknowledge that Benn landed a punch that cut the champion which would have meant Nigel won the title and not a no contest which the Italians were trying to claim.
