Wlad wont prove anything against Fury because Fury is too good.
If you want to see Wlad win by KO put him in with Wilder.
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Wlad wont prove anything against Fury because Fury is too good.
If you want to see Wlad win by KO put him in with Wilder.
The devil is in the details. This is an elaborate con-job. They obviously can’t stand the fact that Fury has their belt. Its hilarious that they make the move right after a new unified champion is crowned. It's an alternative to stripping him. What is the reasoning? Why didn't they do this when Wlad was champion? First the IBF strips the guy because he signed to a rematch deal. They pulled the same scam on Jermain Taylor after Hopkins 1. Didn't they know about the rematch clause? What would they have done if it were a two-way, strip Wlad? How could they not know and not have agreed to the terms? The ink was not even dry on the official record and they were already making plans to front a paper title. Now this. Didn't these clowns get any sanctioning fee's from Wlad? They are acting like they could not wait for fragmentation. Apparently, no ceiling exists when it comes to watering this division down.
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Trying to use a flawed system to justify a tournament on behalf of it really takes the cake. They were supposed to turf the “regular” crap 2 years ago. Trying to infer that they are trying to deal with that cluster FK now is suspect at best, sanctioned racketeering at worst and all under the gaze of all those
agencies that have busted many of them in the past.
You have to love the Ibf's latest statement:
Kind of begs the question, why was the new champion Fury not awarded the same year to decide?Quote:
IBF President Daryl J. Peoples told ESPN Deportes that Martin will have a period of one year to make a mandatory defense of his title.
"Martin won the fight," said Peoples. "So let him enjoy his new belt and he'll have a year to make his mandatory fight. By next week we will know who will be positioned for his mandatory challenger."
Fury made a critical error. He had the balls to say what just about everyone thinks of these belts. Boxers, announcers, managers, broadcasters, forum members across the web continuously belittle these charlatans. He scoffed at them all right off the bat. A cardinal sin. What an opportunity for others to take a stand. The best thing that could ever happen to the sport is all of this metal being sent to recycling. Fury has done what many could have and didn’t. Guys like Floyd and Manny. Does anything make Fury's point better then the caca they are pulling on him now and by extension the fans?
Love the guy or I hate the guy I welcome the revolution he has attempted to start and because its the hev division, someone who can do something about it might even take notice.
To be fair had Klitschko won he would not have rematched Tyson and would have been able to defend. Inside their schedule though? I doubt it. They would probably have allowed him an extension.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
The funny thing is Martin already wants to unify and make money. He will take an interim fight while he waits on Fury and Wilder and then potentially Fury wins the belt straight back off him.
If there was a two-way clause though would they have stripped him had he honoured it? I doubt it.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossTo be fair had Klitschko won he would not have rematched Tyson and would have been able to defend. Inside their schedule though? I doubt it. They would probably have allowed him an extension.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
The funny thing is Martin already wants to unify and make money. He will take an interim fight while he waits on Fury and Wilder and then potentially Fury wins the belt straight back off him.
And the WBA. Would they have fielded this silly tournament? I doubt it.
I expect corruption and am a card carrying cynic but to do what these people are doing right in front of everyone with everyone almost ignoring it and the way to turf this meaningless group of tin after complaining about it for 50 years says more about the fan base as a whole then the stupidity of 5 world champions. The only conclusion that one can end with is that in reality, the fans don’t really give a shit whether someone is a paper weight or not.
FFS these same dorks wearing different suits fix freakin tennis. Wasn’t Andy Murray crucified for even mentioning it some years ago? At least tennis though has the appearance of legitimacy at the top. These boxing clowns don’t hide it at all. And it continues. The Ibf has been under a microscope of the FBI since 99 and now Peoples takes one out of the Lee playbook and they can’t see the virus crawling across the slide.
What Fury did should have started an avalanche but barely a pebble has rolled from the mountain top.
Coupled with the farce that is Alvarez and the Wbc you have 3 governing bodies essentially committing fraud in front of the world and hardly a peep.
Not to be undone, the Wbo continues to coddle Crawford and shift their rankings. So that’s 4 of 4.
This sounds like these sanctioning orgs wanted to lift their titles from Wlad all of this time...
lolol...
Exactly. Everytime Fury upped the pressure in the fight, Wlad wilted and started to flail. Had fury put on the gas he would have knocked Wlad spark out. I think this time he will spark Wlad out!Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
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Originally Posted by ykdadamajaExactly. Everytime Fury upped the pressure in the fight, Wlad wilted and started to flail. Had fury put on the gas he would have knocked Wlad spark out. I think this time he will spark Wlad out!Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Look, its one thing to say that the Orgs are bending Fury over the park bench and treating him quite different then they treat other champions. Hell, even the fake and frauds get treated better then he does. Why? Cant say specifically. Maybe they all hate the Irish.
Its quite another to even hint that this was some kind of glorious performance cause it wasn't. The outcome had more to do with what Wlad didn't do. One can give Fury credit for that also I suppose but if that's so then it would fall on some kind of brilliant performance taking advantage of that. Wlad was paranoid to throw anything and instead of capitalizing that Fury landed a dismal 86 punches in a 12 round fight. Wlad landed 52. In short, there was no turning it up.
Fury did what he had to do and deserves big credit for going to Wlads hometown and taking the tin but some perspective is in order even if its the upset of the decade or whatever.
Wlad needs to show some desire , some punch output and that he isn't totally shot at 39.
He could do that against the other belt holders. The reason he will never do it against Fury is because Fury is too good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
The fight going the distance to a 115-112 suggests to shot, otherwise he would have been stopped like his other defeats.
Perspective? :-) What's that?Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaExactly. Everytime Fury upped the pressure in the fight, Wlad wilted and started to flail. Had fury put on the gas he would have knocked Wlad spark out. I think this time he will spark Wlad out!Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Look, its one thing to say that the Orgs are bending Fury over the park bench and treating him quite different then they treat other champions. Hell, even the fake and frauds get treated better then he does. Why? Cant say specifically. Maybe they all hate the Irish.
Its quite another to even hint that this was some kind of glorious performance cause it wasn't. The outcome had more to do with what Wlad didn't do. One can give Fury credit for that also I suppose but if that's so then it would fall on some kind of brilliant performance taking advantage of that. Wlad was paranoid to throw anything and instead of capitalizing that Fury landed a dismal 86 punches in a 12 round fight. Wlad landed 52. In short, there was no turning it up.
Fury did what he had to do and deserves big credit for going to Wlads hometown and taking the tin but some perspective is in order even if its the upset of the decade or whatever.
What you saw was the result of the experiences he had in those losses. Had he pressed the issue earlier in the fight he knew he could have been hurt and he had the most competent fighter hes faced who would pour it on and finish him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Also we saw furys lack of power unlike the other guys who defeated Wlad.
I just hope the rematch isn't an awful affair like the first one.
Tyson hurt Wlad a few times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
The divisions biggest puncher/most exciting fighter/ fantastic addition to boxing connected a few times and never hurt Wlad;D Same goes for Povetkin;D
Of course Tyson can punch. Wladimir knows that which is why he fought so cautiously.
Fury can hurt when he hits, of course he can, he's an 18 stone bloke who's vocation in life is to punch people in the face, you wouldn't describe him as a power puncher though.
It's been difficult to gauge so far in his career because he's clearly been taking the piss for a big portion of it, pity patting his way past Chisora for e.g.
Fury did wobble and hurt Wlad late in the fight and Wlad clung on for dear life.
Hopefully Fury will try to hurt Wlad this time so the fight won't be as boringly forgettable as the first one.
Although judging by Fury's history of intentionally not sparking fighters it's doubtful. He likes doing rounds not ironing them out.
dunno how intentional it is, and more often than not I don't buy this "wanting extra rounds". I just think that for a very big guy , he doesn't punch that hard . it's not a big criticism here, in case Ross comes on here spurting bollocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
What I think it is, is that Fury doesn't fight like the size of guy he is. He's more mobile than one expects and he doesn't plant his feet and put all his power through . I am sure if he gave me , or the man in the street a clump , we'd know about it! But he throws a lot on the move , including his power punches.
Fury could have chinned Chisora in one round but "chose" to go 22. So as Memphis said, we won't know much about Fury's power until he actually decides to unleash it. We're in for some spectacle... if he ever does decide to show it, of course
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Yes and when fury fails to beat the count and loses by ko , it will be because he want to learn to count to ten.
No way Fury ever gets chinned out. The two times he's been left flat on his back staring at the ceiling was through personal choice.
Yes he chooses what transpires in each fight , that's why he landed just enough to beat Wlad , no point looking good or exciting in winning after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
He threw a minimum amount of punches possible against Wlad to make sure he didn't iron him. He likes doing rounds.
Same with Clay;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster