Re: Dillian Whyte v David Allen
I didn't see the fight and had completely forgot that David Allen was the White Rhino, I'll have to see if I can find the fight online.
I remember watching his last fight that was on telly and he seemed like a bit of a character so I'll be interested to see him against Whyte.
Last time I saw him he still looked like he had a few issues and it sounds like they still haven't been ironed out yet, still early days for him though
Re: Dillian Whyte v David Allen
It was godawful. Allen had a sparring partner/journeyman mentality (he wasn't trying to win he was surviving) and Whyte doesn't have a change of gear. So we ended up with ten rounds of one-sided plodding.
Re: Dillian Whyte v David Allen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKYSkLxtnqk
Good interview. When he's natural theres a lot to like about Allen.
Allen looks as tough as old boots, his punch resistance looks good. Im not sure what else there is to him though. He doesnt box too well and his punch power is on the powderpuff side. He might wear guys down to get some wins but realistically, I cant see him getting past anyone at the top end of British level.
Whyte is a bit of a mystery right now. I've labelled him a fresher version of Chisora since day one, right now though, Im not even confident he beats the old Chisora, it'd be a toss up.
Re: Dillian Whyte v David Allen
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I didn't see the fight and had completely forgot that David Allen was the White Rhino, I'll have to see if I can find the fight online.
I remember watching his last fight that was on telly and he seemed like a bit of a character so I'll be interested to see him against Whyte.
Last time I saw him he still looked like he had a few issues and it sounds like they still haven't been ironed out yet, still early days for him though
Allen was tough and durable but he looked out of shape for a 10 rounder.
Re: Dillian Whyte v David Allen
A fresher Chisora was a good call, I was thinking about it during the fight and also thought Chisora might plod him out of it.
Re: Dillian Whyte v David Allen
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1.Whyte knew it was going to be hard to stop Allen so did do alot of arm punching as he was concerned about blowing out early. In fact had it been a 12 rounder and not just 10 he didnt look very strong in the last round and was starting to be bullied around more and more and taking more shots.
2.I think Allen showed more promise in that fight than Whyte did. I think that was only Allens 10th fight? On 3 weeks notice. Didnt have the output to win but with that experience he could go in with anyone and we know he will not fold early. Its an excellent base to build from. None of the other top heavies have the same kind of resiliance, all have been dropped, stopped, knocked out etc or in Joshuas case he got hurt by those same punches where Allen didnt.
I think number 1 in Bold is probably true , which reflects badly on Whyte. Fuck me, at the level he is perceived to be , minimum requirement is that he should be able to go 12 rounds with a supposedly inferior opponent. I don't dislike Whyte , but I was very disappointed with his fitness , timing and general punch / combination selection on Saturday.
I don't agree with point number 2 in Bold. how can he have more promise, when he isn't able to throw punches? The only potential Allen has got , is the potential to get seriously hurt if he has to take that many punches regularly without giving anything back.
Allen is a likeable guy, and has a good sense of humour and is also a good sport, but unless there is a "Rocky when Apollo Creed trained him" change, I can't see him going very far.
It would be nice if he proves me wrong though.
Re: Dillian Whyte v David Allen
Allen has admitted he himself was worried about doing the distance because hes so inexperienced, only had 20 fights in total including amateur.
Whytes lingest fight was against Joshua, previously I think he had only done 4 so he was worried about the distance.
Pthey both tried pacing themselves but Whyte is more experienced and polished.
Allen has big potential, he wasnt blowing out his ass, is strong as fuck and if you listen to Whyte he took world class punches and didnt budge. When was the last time we have had a heavyweight who can take world class punches repeatedly and not budge, get dropped, or even be hurt?
All he has to do is have confidence in his own fitness and throw more punches thats it. He is relatively skilled, good upper body and head movement. Caught Whyte with his jab when he threw it.
Yes I think he takes more credit from this and more promise. He made Whyte look shyte. Maybe Whyte is over rated from giving Joshua his toughest fight? Maybe people thought he is better than what he is? Allen Just didnt do enough himself.
I will watch his career as a fan, I am deffinitely interested to see how it progresses.
Re: Dillian Whyte v David Allen
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In all fairness Whyte is going to say he took world class punches, he's hardly going to say was tickling him is he.
Mind you I haven't seen the fight myself
Do not watch it, it is not an entertaining contest.
Re: Dillian Whyte v David Allen
David Allen is taking an indeterminate break from boxing as he battles depression and gambling.
Shame but the kid does sound like he has a few issues, he comes across as happy and good humoured in his interviews but I have heard him talking about having massive weight issues (wasn't he weighing 23 stones at one point) and how he has been depressed in the past.
Could be that boxing is too stressful for him, he might be better off out of it.
Sounds as though he may have a touch of the old bipolar.
Re: Dillian Whyte v David Allen
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David Allen is taking an indeterminate break from boxing as he battles depression and gambling.
Shame but the kid does sound like he has a few issues, he comes across as happy and good humoured in his interviews but I have heard him talking about having massive weight issues (wasn't he weighing 23 stones at one point) and how he has been depressed in the past.
Could be that boxing is too stressful for him, he might be better off out of it.
Sounds as though he may have a touch of the old bipolar.
That could be all true for Tyson Fury but he has managed his condition better. :)
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David Allen is taking an indeterminate break from boxing as he battles depression and gambling.
Shame but the kid does sound like he has a few issues, he comes across as happy and good humoured in his interviews but I have heard him talking about having massive weight issues (wasn't he weighing 23 stones at one point) and how he has been depressed in the past.
Could be that boxing is too stressful for him, he might be better off out of it.
Sounds as though he may have a touch of the old bipolar.
It sounds like LIFE is too stressful for him. If anything, the Boxing has possibly helped, but not enough . He probably got , for him , a decent purse and has blown it and that has seen him sink back into depression.
Mind you , I'm only using my degree on Street Psychology here that I got from the University of Life!!! ;D
I do hope he can sort his life out because regardless of what I thought of his ability , he seems a very likeable guy and you wouldn't wish this on anyone.
Re: Dillian Whyte v David Allen
Actually just read the article off the Sky Sport Website. What a genuine and Honest guy he is. I really, really do hope he gets his life sorted . it's a terrible shame.