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Thing is, people keep talking about this cagey wiley southpaw but which fight did he show that in?
glazkov (what ever his face is) found him a bit tricky in the first but then out landed him in the second, martin also drops his hands when he punches
he doesn't even really move very quick
if he is as hard as nails you never know, but I don't even think that will be the case, he's got chicken legs
We'll see. 😉Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
I'll take the Martin is pony stuff a bit further... I don't think he looks like a big puncher. All his stoppage wins have come against fat bellies that have been stopped before/after facing him.
He hasn't chinned a single fighter that would qualify for a British title shot let alone world (ignoring Glazkov's knee).
I hope you're right.😄Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I read £2.5 million and I don't think Martin would be on any more than that (like a cut of PPV). Maybe Joshua gets a cut of PPV but I wouldn't bet on it. No way he makes £8 million for this fight and that's the only way he could possibly do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera@kir klandlaing , I heard 3.5 million Pounds not dollars, big difference and that AJ Would be getting close to £8million.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I heard AJ Gets a cut of the PPV, and that he did against Whyte and that's why he earned 3 million .Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingI read £2.5 million and I don't think Martin would be on any more than that (like a cut of PPV). Maybe Joshua gets a cut of PPV but I wouldn't bet on it. No way he makes £8 million for this fight and that's the only way he could possibly do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera@kir klandlaing , I heard 3.5 million Pounds not dollars, big difference and that AJ Would be getting close to £8million.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I could be wrong, loads of rumours around.
That's done it for me , I'm having a punt on MartinQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I'm thinking about bull shitting this fight up to my dad, telling him it is the fight of the century,it'll be a bloodbath, both are ranked as being up there in the p4p rankings, Joshua is better than Ali etc etc
hopefully it'll convince him to pay for it and then I can go round and watch it for free/
Is it still taking advantage of the elderly if they are your parents?
pop round to mine if you want, im getting it and ill probly have no mates
Glenn Mcrory just pointed out on Sky Sports news that for someone who's been in Big Bear training (Strength Training, nutritionist etc) Martin looks in shit shape.
I agree, i think he's all mouth.
He is. Martin will get sparked.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
You can see from the training videos Martin isn't a natural athlete but neither was fury and he just beat one of the best heavyweights ever (statistically) Joshua is still a 15 fight novice coming off a tough fight at British level.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
I think if you've got a spare tenner lying around its worth putting it on Martin by ko given the odds are what they are. I'm not saying Joshua isn't the real deal cus he may prove it but what we do know is that martins very laid back. Almost too laid back at times considering that draw he had. But that works in his favour. He's not gonna swing away whilst Joshua's unloading on him early looking a million dollars. He will soak it up and before we know it Joshua will be taking huge gulps of air cus his muscles require too much oxygen and Martin will start getting the back hand working.
That's just one scenario I see playing out. Equally Antony could make short work of Martin but as far as we know martins never been down or hurt amateur or pro. Joshua's been down and stopped and we saw him hurt last time against wyhyte who didn't know how to throw a straight punch. It's a risky fight. Closer than the bookies think
Exactly! Put Joshua on a circuit with Fury and I gurantee he will tire first. Stop getting so excited about BMI's McCrory needs to remember that Martin is a big man and not a cruiser weight that had to make weight or face the big men like Martin. Charles doesnt have to cut weight. Iv seen some of the training hes been doing and its good stuff, proper fast twitch reaction stuff. Fuck sakes, this lot dont learn! Like you said Fury v Klitschko prime example. Klitschko even more ripped than Joshua but just couldnt handle Furys movement.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAMEYou can see from the training videos Martin isn't a natural athlete but neither was fury and he just beat one of the best heavyweights ever (statistically) Joshua is still a 15 fight novice coming off a tough fight at British level.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
I think if you've got a spare tenner lying around its worth putting it on Martin by ko given the odds are what they are. I'm not saying Joshua isn't the real deal cus he may prove it but what we do know is that martins very laid back. Almost too laid back at times considering that draw he had. But that works in his favour. He's not gonna swing away whilst Joshua's unloading on him early looking a million dollars. He will soak it up and before we know it Joshua will be taking huge gulps of air cus his muscles require too much oxygen and Martin will start getting the back hand working.
That's just one scenario I see playing out. Equally Antony could make short work of Martin but as far as we know martins never been down or hurt amateur or pro. Joshua's been down and stopped and we saw him hurt last time against wyhyte who didn't know how to throw a straight punch. It's a risky fight. Closer than the bookies think
We will see.
I can quite easily seeing Martin using a simple jab from the off and Joshua looking the novice he is.
I see it this way too. AJ is much more experienced than Martin when you think about it. He has less rounds but he has all of this AM experience and he has the experience of fighting in big, sold out arenas. His level of opposition is higher than Martin's and he is just better at everything. I'd be surprised with anything other than a Joshua Ko win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
His Am experience includes being outboxed and made to look like a novice in the olympics! ;D
He was a novice on the international scene. He only started fighting at 18. Fury got beat by Price and so was not selected for the Olympics but apparently that doesn't mean anything unless you actually get there and win a gold medal (however deserved or undeserved), and then that just proves you are clueless and are never going to be anything but a glorified body builder. Speed, explosive power, the same things that made a BIG man in Joshua a blisteringly fast athlete / sprinter are not the same attributes used for endurance, but one does not preclude the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Iv had a beer but thats a bit rambly. Is there a point?Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzHe was a novice on the international scene. He only started fighting at 18. Fury got beat by Price and so was not selected for the Olympics but apparently that doesn't mean anything unless you actually get there and win a gold medal (however deserved or undeserved), and then that just proves you are clueless and are never going to be anything but a glorified body builder. Speed, explosive power, the same things that made a BIG man in Joshua a blisteringly fast athlete / sprinter are not the same attributes used for endurance, but one does not preclude the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Yeah..the point is you are an idiot and your post presents no meaningful information other than reminding us that you don't rate Joshua. Succinct enough for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossIv had a beer but thats a bit rambly. Is there a point?Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzHe was a novice on the international scene. He only started fighting at 18. Fury got beat by Price and so was not selected for the Olympics but apparently that doesn't mean anything unless you actually get there and win a gold medal (however deserved or undeserved), and then that just proves you are clueless and are never going to be anything but a glorified body builder. Speed, explosive power, the same things that made a BIG man in Joshua a blisteringly fast athlete / sprinter are not the same attributes used for endurance, but one does not preclude the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
I don't think he was, was he?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossExactly! Put Joshua on a circuit with Fury and I gurantee he will tire first. Stop getting so excited about BMI's McCrory needs to remember that Martin is a big man and not a cruiser weight that had to make weight or face the big men like Martin. Charles doesnt have to cut weight. Iv seen some of the training hes been doing and its good stuff, proper fast twitch reaction stuff. Fuck sakes, this lot dont learn! Like you said Fury v Klitschko prime example. Klitschko even more ripped than Joshua but just couldnt handle Furys movement.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAMEYou can see from the training videos Martin isn't a natural athlete but neither was fury and he just beat one of the best heavyweights ever (statistically) Joshua is still a 15 fight novice coming off a tough fight at British level.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
I think if you've got a spare tenner lying around its worth putting it on Martin by ko given the odds are what they are. I'm not saying Joshua isn't the real deal cus he may prove it but what we do know is that martins very laid back. Almost too laid back at times considering that draw he had. But that works in his favour. He's not gonna swing away whilst Joshua's unloading on him early looking a million dollars. He will soak it up and before we know it Joshua will be taking huge gulps of air cus his muscles require too much oxygen and Martin will start getting the back hand working.
That's just one scenario I see playing out. Equally Antony could make short work of Martin but as far as we know martins never been down or hurt amateur or pro. Joshua's been down and stopped and we saw him hurt last time against wyhyte who didn't know how to throw a straight punch. It's a risky fight. Closer than the bookies think
We will see.
I can quite easily seeing Martin using a simple jab from the off and Joshua looking the novice he is.
To be fair Ross, I'm not arguing with you, that could well happen. I personally think Joshua will get through this....just, and a lot more difficult than most people are thinking.
But, if it happens how some of these other guys are saying, you're gonna have to give AJ some credit. You won't be able to say "Martin is shit!" After the event.
Joshua will not look great;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraI don't think he was, was he?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossExactly! Put Joshua on a circuit with Fury and I gurantee he will tire first. Stop getting so excited about BMI's McCrory needs to remember that Martin is a big man and not a cruiser weight that had to make weight or face the big men like Martin. Charles doesnt have to cut weight. Iv seen some of the training hes been doing and its good stuff, proper fast twitch reaction stuff. Fuck sakes, this lot dont learn! Like you said Fury v Klitschko prime example. Klitschko even more ripped than Joshua but just couldnt handle Furys movement.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAMEYou can see from the training videos Martin isn't a natural athlete but neither was fury and he just beat one of the best heavyweights ever (statistically) Joshua is still a 15 fight novice coming off a tough fight at British level.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
I think if you've got a spare tenner lying around its worth putting it on Martin by ko given the odds are what they are. I'm not saying Joshua isn't the real deal cus he may prove it but what we do know is that martins very laid back. Almost too laid back at times considering that draw he had. But that works in his favour. He's not gonna swing away whilst Joshua's unloading on him early looking a million dollars. He will soak it up and before we know it Joshua will be taking huge gulps of air cus his muscles require too much oxygen and Martin will start getting the back hand working.
That's just one scenario I see playing out. Equally Antony could make short work of Martin but as far as we know martins never been down or hurt amateur or pro. Joshua's been down and stopped and we saw him hurt last time against wyhyte who didn't know how to throw a straight punch. It's a risky fight. Closer than the bookies think
We will see.
I can quite easily seeing Martin using a simple jab from the off and Joshua looking the novice he is.
To be fair Ross, I'm not arguing with you, that could well happen. I personally think Joshua will get through this....just, and a lot more difficult than most people are thinking.
But, if it happens how some of these other guys are saying, you're gonna have to give AJ some credit. You won't be able to say "Martin is shit!" After the event.
Just remind yourself of Price v Thompson...
Ok. We will see.
Martin does not look that good to me, looking at some of his fights, I have not been that impressed ,AJ should have his number Martin is a bit left hand happy but he looks ponderous using that shot! and if AJ can hit him with the straight right it will be good night simple.
4 -1 for stoppageQuote:
Originally Posted by nuggetdotcomThat's done it for me , I'm having a punt on MartinQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Don't get me wrong, I would like to see AJ win, my doubts are he's a bit Bruno-esque and stands off and watches his handiwork. A loss wont do him any harm.Quote:
Originally Posted by nuggetdotcom4 -1 for stoppageQuote:
Originally Posted by nuggetdotcomThat's done it for me , I'm having a punt on MartinQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
As much as Martin looks soft with some moobs brewing, Joshua is equally over the top being ripped to absolute shreds. Calling this one a coin flip honestly. Muscles on muscles are great, they can also sap the shat out of you facing your first southpaw with decent hands and a boxers mind set. Either way..I hope we get a clean KO!
Here's my prediction ...... Joshua by a stoppage in three
Joshua will destroy him assuming he doesn't get exposed as an overhyped musclebound novice, I'm fairly sure of it.
The Thompson - price fight is a nice example because David was at a similar stage in his career as Joshua . Knocking everyone out, had the country behind him and afew doubts over his chin from his amateur days but not really tested as a pro.
Then he fights a tall American, not in great shape but a southpaw with respectable punch who likes to pick his spots.......
Could history be repeating itself. You could almost say Martin is a lazy fighter but that translates into him not doing anything stupid early on or take any risks whilst josh is at his most dangerous. I saw Martin getting a 10th round stoppage over some club fighter on YouTube, the finish was abit messy and he was throwing arm punches but again Thompson didn't look good when he opened up but it's effective. Its a tick in the box that Martin knows he can go late and prevail and of the two I think he has a tighter gameplan more so than Joshua
If Joshua wins this he deserves full credit. Martin is an awkward nights work for a 15 fight novice and if josh does has his hand raised we shouldn't forget he just beat an unbeaten world champ which is a big statement
Macklin-Rose next.
Macklin is so shot I've backed Rose (a non-puncher moving up in weight who I always back against) to stop him. Nuts.
I want to see Joshua dominate and look tremendous. Never seen him fight before, but been hearing very good things on here about him the past year or so.
Joshua is a quality fighter for a 15 fight novice. Watch him blow away Martin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
Some brave fuckers ringside. Think I would have waited till Macklin left the joint. (this will go over most heads)
Stuck at work ffs! Do believe we're about to suffer a power outage for an early shutdown :-X A man has to have his priorities :furious2:
Good tactics from Rose. Macklin winning but looks like he's been duffed up
I can't ever enjoy Macklins fights, always bit like with Martin Murray, they could be in absolute brilliant wars and I would just feel a bit 'meh'
I've only paid for this tonight because I have had a decent win on the online roulette otherwise I wouldn't have bothered
Explain yourself, that went straight over my head:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Rose has a lovely nose doesn't he
I had Rose winning
Macklin wins. Could have gone either way. Their boats made it look like a war that it wasn't
Macklin’s Gym Marbella.Quote:
Originally Posted by BatmanExplain yourself, that went straight over my head:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Last time they had a show everyone ran for their life as the firms started blazing