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Seemed like a logical fight for both, figured Ruiz probably needed it more. It seems like a lot of fights fall through for the Fury camp, but could just be a case where they jump the gun announcing them? If there was never anything actually in place for these two to fight, don't say it's happening.
watch the two YouTube links above that I posted. Video interviews of Ruiz Jr and his trainer both talking about fighting Hughie in Manchester.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Also, Dan Rafael has posted this
http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_...ht-hughie-fury
and this
https://twitter.com/danrafaelespn/st...42012350377984
looks like he's another basket case like Danny Williams
Well ok, but not signing the contract and pulling out of a fight are quite different things, which is kind of what I was saying. I don't think Ruiz is in shape to be a serious contender, but this seems like it would have been a big opportunity for him to be taken seriously, if he thought he could win.
http://www.boxingscene.com/tony-thom...ys-ass--109011
Seems like not quite everybody is avoiding Hughie. Or maybe it's a publicity stunt.;D
Maybe not just publicity but deffinitely after a payday. He's not even in any rankings:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Tony Thompson is a difficult fight for anyone, I doubt mini Fury will take itQuote:
Originally Posted by rossMaybe not just publicity but deffinitely after a payday. He's not even in any rankings:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
I agree with you Ross, he's clearly after the payday. Infact any Below elite level boxers want to fight the Brits because they know it's Silly Money comparatively speaking.Quote:
Originally Posted by nuggetdotcomTony Thompson is a difficult fight for anyone, I doubt mini Fury will take itQuote:
Originally Posted by rossMaybe not just publicity but deffinitely after a payday. He's not even in any rankings:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
I know it's all bollocks at the moment, But do you think the Team Fury would consider this fight? Obviously the fact that he isn't ranked means nothing. After all, you only have to look at the fact that Mark De Mori was ranked.
Good kudos if Hughie were to beat him , but definitely a banana skin.
The problem is with all these last minute.com fights is that if he won , people would say "Yeah but Thompson didn't have enough Preparation time."
It's not Hughie's fault, and I've said this before, But to get him to the next level, Hughie now needs fights where he can have a good Preparation camp and he's not on the same bill as Tyson , so that the focus is on him and Peter can concentrate on him fully.
At the moment, it kind of feels like his career is treading water.
No idea if they will take it. Will probably depend on what Thompson asks for. The fight with Ruiz was going to be a WBO eliminator so im thinking they will ask the WBO who else they will accept in an eliminator first so they dont lose a potential high ranking opportunity.
Someone whos obviously friends with Ruiz on facebook has screenshotted his explanation. https://twitter.com/louisgavin/statu...62482349813760
It's plausible.
Hughie is gonna fight AJ now... yeah, course he is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAUo8TK8j2o
Tony Thompson is difficult but he's not getting any younger...Ortiz stopped him, Malik Scott beat him by decision. If Thompson was to take the fight and win, it wouldn't derail Hughie's career too much unless of course Thompson knocked him out.
Why not Price???
Exactly that! It feels like top British guys don't want to fight each other because they don't want to fall off the Gravy train. Price, Chis, Hughie, Whyte, even Haye dare I say have all gotta start fighting each other and stop milking the public with meaningless match ups.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Especially if David Price wants to eventually have a clash with Tyson Fury why not just go fight Hughie and blast him out? Seems rather simple and good business either way IMO. If Price wins he sets up a fight with Tyson and if Price loses then Hughie can big up himself and Tyson can say "You aren't even worth my time, I let my cousin handle my light work"Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraExactly that! It feels like top British guys don't want to fight each other because they don't want to fall off the Gravy train. Price, Chis, Hughie, Whyte, even Haye dare I say have all gotta start fighting each other and stop milking the public with meaningless match ups.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Has the fight been cancelled because of Hughie having that bout of leprosy ?
Hughie best forget AJ maybe a big payday but Hearn has stated the money he wants miles apart.!
I don't blame Hughie he wants a shed load of money, as he will loose if they fight now or later.
Fury is no HW Champion in waiting he is no puncher and he is about British level at best.
His dad may think so but he is his dad, I have not seen anything thing to strike fear into any of the top contenders Hughie has to offer.
Trying to figure out the money involved in Hearns offer. He said the Fury wanted a 40/60 split. Hearn said they wanted "almost" double than what he offered. Youll never know the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
Hughie is definitely above British level.
His results against Rudenko, Arias & Kassi compared to some other top contenders are very good.
Ross he has not won the British title mate, then let's see how far he can go sorry but he is not European level there are some tough guy out there at European level.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossTrying to figure out the money involved in Hearns offer. He said the Fury wanted a 40/60 split. Hearn said they wanted "almost" double than what he offered. Youll never know the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
Hughie is definitely above British level.
His results against Rudenko, Arias & Kassi compared to some other top contenders are very good.
Dillon Whyte would smash him no problem, I can't see Hughie wanting any part of Whyte.
A question for @ross or anyone else that's interested. Hughie is quite high up the HBO Rankings, how would you feel about him and Wlad fighting for the vacant or interim title, with Tyson being champion in recess?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossTrying to figure out the money involved in Hearns offer. He said the Fury wanted a 40/60 split. Hearn said they wanted "almost" double than what he offered. Youll never know the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
Hughie is definitely above British level.
His results against Rudenko, Arias & Kassi compared to some other top contenders are very good.
Everyone else bar Tyson and Wlad right now and maybe Wilder id be confident Hughie could do a job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraA question for @ross or anyone else that's interested. Hughie is quite high up the HBO Rankings, how would you feel about him and Wlad fighting for the vacant or interim title, with Tyson being champion in recess?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossTrying to figure out the money involved in Hearns offer. He said the Fury wanted a 40/60 split. Hearn said they wanted "almost" double than what he offered. Youll never know the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
Hughie is definitely above British level.
His results against Rudenko, Arias & Kassi compared to some other top contenders are very good.
So would you take it? The thing is what's the point in rankings if you get high up them and don't take the fights when offered.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossEveryone else bar Tyson and Wlad right now and maybe Wilder id be confident Hughie could do a job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraA question for @ross or anyone else that's interested. Hughie is quite high up the HBO Rankings, how would you feel about him and Wlad fighting for the vacant or interim title, with Tyson being champion in recess?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossTrying to figure out the money involved in Hearns offer. He said the Fury wanted a 40/60 split. Hearn said they wanted "almost" double than what he offered. Youll never know the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
Hughie is definitely above British level.
His results against Rudenko, Arias & Kassi compared to some other top contenders are very good.
Having pillow fists and leprosy is the future.
Well the clue is in the title of professional fighter. You are there to make money and not have the piss taken with tiny percentages.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraSo would you take it? The thing is what's the point in rankings if you get high up them and don't take the fights when offered.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossEveryone else bar Tyson and Wlad right now and maybe Wilder id be confident Hughie could do a job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraA question for @ross or anyone else that's interested. Hughie is quite high up the HBO Rankings, how would you feel about him and Wlad fighting for the vacant or interim title, with Tyson being champion in recess?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossTrying to figure out the money involved in Hearns offer. He said the Fury wanted a 40/60 split. Hearn said they wanted "almost" double than what he offered. Youll never know the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
Hughie is definitely above British level.
His results against Rudenko, Arias & Kassi compared to some other top contenders are very good.
So you wouldn't take it? Is that what you're saying ? as for tiny percentages, let's not forget, Wlad is not the champion. He would be fighting for a vacant or interim title.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWell the clue is in the title of professional fighter. You are there to make money and not have the piss taken with tiny percentages.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraSo would you take it? The thing is what's the point in rankings if you get high up them and don't take the fights when offered.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossEveryone else bar Tyson and Wlad right now and maybe Wilder id be confident Hughie could do a job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraA question for @ross or anyone else that's interested. Hughie is quite high up the HBO Rankings, how would you feel about him and Wlad fighting for the vacant or interim title, with Tyson being champion in recess?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossTrying to figure out the money involved in Hearns offer. He said the Fury wanted a 40/60 split. Hearn said they wanted "almost" double than what he offered. Youll never know the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
Hughie is definitely above British level.
His results against Rudenko, Arias & Kassi compared to some other top contenders are very good.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraSo you wouldn't take it? Is that what you're saying ? as for tiny percentages, let's not forget, Wlad is not the champion. He would be fighting for a vacant or interim title.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWell the clue is in the title of professional fighter. You are there to make money and not have the piss taken with tiny percentages.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraSo would you take it? The thing is what's the point in rankings if you get high up them and don't take the fights when offered.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossEveryone else bar Tyson and Wlad right now and maybe Wilder id be confident Hughie could do a job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraA question for @ross or anyone else that's interested. Hughie is quite high up the HBO Rankings, how would you feel about him and Wlad fighting for the vacant or interim title, with Tyson being champion in recess?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossTrying to figure out the money involved in Hearns offer. He said the Fury wanted a 40/60 split. Hearn said they wanted "almost" double than what he offered. Youll never know the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
Hughie is definitely above British level.
His results against Rudenko, Arias & Kassi compared to some other top contenders are very good.
Think iv just figured out what you actually meant. You werent talking about HBO rankings were you?😂
Wlad for Hughie? No, same as Hearn wont take Wlad for Joshua. Iv heard Wlad has booked a stadium in Germany in December and will fight Ruiz Jr in a WBO interim.
Sorry, I didn't read it back. I meant WBO. Fuck knows how I put HBO! Doh!
No matter how spent Wlad might be, his fighting Andy Ruiz will be more or less a circus event. The tubby will never get past the jab and if he does he'll just be smothered and ground down, can already envision how ugly that will look unless Wlad ends it early. Does Klit want to fight any of the top guys afterwards? Long time to postpone his return for a pointless fight.
I would think they are just doing this to annoy the furys after the double postponement by tyson..Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Just seen Briggs mentioned as a possible new opponent for Hughie depending on what Briggs has lined up.
Cant see Briggs taking it though.
@ross how far do you think Hughie can go in the boxing world? Do you think he has the potential to go all the way?
I have to admit that from what I've seen of him he will come up short by quite a bit.
I agree Hughie is not as good as Tyson Fury.Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman
I do. Against his best opponents Rudenko, Arias and Kassi he has looked more than competant. Rudenko had one loss on his record and that was a fight he should have got the decision against Brown, who should still be holding the WBA regular belt. Arias went on to win rounds off Pulev, he lost every one against Hughie in a ten rounder but foght Pulev in an 8 rounder. Kassi should have got the decision against Brezeale.Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman
Hughie is good but a mixture of health problems and fighters refusing to fight or pulling out have stalled his progress.
He may not be as brash or dynamic as Tyson or Joshua but hes effective and will be a difficult fight for anyone. A run of fights will show that.
At 20 fights a piece there's nothing in Hughie and Tysons careers. Hughie hasnt been knocked about and on his arse though has he? Hugie has been at 30% so......
What percent will it take for Hughie to start cracking eggs?
He had Arias hurt. Once hes over his problems and gets regular action he will loosen up and the power will be there. No one is having an easy time with him, no one is walking through him and they are tough fighters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
With skills like hes learning he doesnt need to fall back on power. Hes gone the distance and wasnt off balance, getting hurt or looking tired like other fighters;)
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Originally Posted by MasterI agree Hughie is not as good as Tyson Fury.Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman
very few people expected Tyson to win he HW title tho
only 4ish fights ago I thought he was miles away
:oQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
The guy Juan Carlos Gomez stopped?!?!?!
:vd:
Saddest part is Hughie is a juicer too and he still can't punch for shit
Stop spreading malicious and unsubstantiated rumours. The boys are clean.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong:oQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
The guy Juan Carlos Gomez stopped?!?!?!
:vd:
Saddest part is Hughie is a juicer too and he still can't punch for shit
That might be what the word is in Guernsey but in the real world they are PEDs cheatsQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterStop spreading malicious and unsubstantiated rumours. The boys are clean.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong:oQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
The guy Juan Carlos Gomez stopped?!?!?!
:vd:
Saddest part is Hughie is a juicer too and he still can't punch for shit
You mean like Tyson or.......?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossHe had Arias hurt. Once hes over his problems and gets regular action he will loosen up and the power will be there. No one is having an easy time with him, no one is walking through him and they are tough fighters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
With skills like hes learning he doesnt need to fall back on power. Hes gone the distance and wasnt off balance, getting hurt or looking tired like other fighters;)