Re: if zab wins next saturday then he's the best
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by amat
It's just not the same anymore. I liked him so much more as Baller.
Anyways, might aswell put some real input.
Zab is just to damn inconsistent for me to be excited about a ring return. For every Corey Spinks II there is a Rafael Pineda. Eh really, I talked myself all out of Judah leading up to the PBF fight, His mind aint right and you can't be a good consistent fighter without a proper head on your shoulders.
And he's not even THAT good. Even with a proper attitude. I mean he has good speed and pop but a very subpar defense and he isn't right around the edges. You can hit him with the straight right whenever you want basically, he has a very bad transistion game, doesn't get inside/outside very well without getting hit. I mean he has speed and pop. About it. He's a fairly decent championship level fighter in terms of skill, add the inconsistency and...I don't care. I would definitely watch him fight, but don't think it effects the big picture much.
To tell the truth amat I've been following Zab's career.
And to be honest the only time he was ever hit with a straight right at will was against Mayweather.
Prior to that I had never seen Zab picked apart, I had seen him caught with one shot and in trouble, but it was one shot that I saw Zab consistantly hit with, he wasn't exactly ever broken down and tagged with straight rights with consistancy by any boxer other then Mayweather.
Tszyu was one shot, Baldomir was one shot, Mayweather was a compilation.
So Mayweather is truly the only one to break Zab down over a course of rounds and hit him consistantly with a straight right, the rest have been one shot.
But that was Floyd Mayweather, he does it to everyone.
I agree on all other points there. Just thought I'd put some of my opinion out there.
I've seen just about every fight since the Micky Ward fight and that is not how I saw it. Tszyu caught him with one shot because it was only 2 rounds into the fight. He knew the right hand was there and it just so happened the first time he went for it he knocked Zab on his ass.
Rafael Pineda went to town with the right hand and just about won the damn fight. The only thing Corey Spinks had going for him in the first fight was the straight right hand. All he did was go in and out with 1,2's.
Baldomir was not just one shot. He hit him in the 7th and that was the first time he wobbled Zab but it was not the first time he landed a straight right. And he landed many more over the course of the fight. If Baldomir only landed one shot in that fight he wouldn't have won the fight.
And of course Mayweather beat him with the right too. Among other things.
But to say that Mayweather is the only person to break him down with the right is absurd Maj you know that. He may have never been picked apart, but you don't have to be picked apart to be beat. Mayweather didn't even pick him apart with the right hand. He didn't incorporate the right hand until late in the fight.
Re: if zab wins next saturday then he's the best
Zab is a punk just like Baller and BigDog or whatever the fuck his new name is......ah yeah you have to love the Faux-Thug.....the bravado, the horrid grammar, the dress code of Kevin Federline and Eminem.......what did the world do without such people????
Oh now I remember...
[youtube=425,350]5IXcdv2mKFQ[/youtube]
I think it's worse that Zab is a punk....I mean he's supposed to have some "street cred" being a boxer AND a coming out of inner city poverty as a fighter.....it's just sad.
Re: if zab wins next saturday then he's the best
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Originally Posted by amat
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by amat
It's just not the same anymore. I liked him so much more as Baller.
Anyways, might aswell put some real input.
Zab is just to damn inconsistent for me to be excited about a ring return. For every Corey Spinks II there is a Rafael Pineda. Eh really, I talked myself all out of Judah leading up to the PBF fight, His mind aint right and you can't be a good consistent fighter without a proper head on your shoulders.
And he's not even THAT good. Even with a proper attitude. I mean he has good speed and pop but a very subpar defense and he isn't right around the edges. You can hit him with the straight right whenever you want basically, he has a very bad transistion game, doesn't get inside/outside very well without getting hit. I mean he has speed and pop. About it. He's a fairly decent championship level fighter in terms of skill, add the inconsistency and...I don't care. I would definitely watch him fight, but don't think it effects the big picture much.
To tell the truth amat I've been following Zab's career.
And to be honest the only time he was ever hit with a straight right at will was against Mayweather.
Prior to that I had never seen Zab picked apart, I had seen him caught with one shot and in trouble, but it was one shot that I saw Zab consistantly hit with, he wasn't exactly ever broken down and tagged with straight rights with consistancy by any boxer other then Mayweather.
Tszyu was one shot, Baldomir was one shot, Mayweather was a compilation.
So Mayweather is truly the only one to break Zab down over a course of rounds and hit him consistantly with a straight right, the rest have been one shot.
But that was Floyd Mayweather, he does it to everyone.
I agree on all other points there. Just thought I'd put some of my opinion out there.
I've seen just about every fight since the Micky Ward fight and that is not how I saw it. Tszyu caught him with one shot because it was only 2 rounds into the fight. He knew the right hand was there and it just so happened the first time he went for it he knocked Zab on his ass.
Rafael Pineda went to town with the right hand and just about won the damn fight. The only thing Corey Spinks had going for him in the first fight was the straight right hand. All he did was go in and out with 1,2's.
Baldomir was not just one shot. He hit him in the 7th and that was the first time he wobbled Zab but it was not the first time he landed a straight right. And he landed many more over the course of the fight. If Baldomir only landed one shot in that fight he wouldn't have won the fight.
And of course Mayweather beat him with the right too. Among other things.
But to say that Mayweather is the only person to break him down with the right is absurd Maj you know that.
He may have never been picked apart, but you don't have to be picked apart to be beat. Mayweather didn't even pick him apart with the right hand. He didn't incorporate the right hand until late in the fight.
What I bolded was what I was talking about. Mayweather was the only one to truly pick him apart at the seams. And Mayweather picked him apart with the right hand. What I saw was that for the first few he was measuring just trying to find place to land it and get distance, once he got it, he beat Zab with it all night and couldn't miss. So I don't think its absurd at all. Mayweather wasn't the first to beat him or give him a rough time. But he was the first to really break him down and pick him apart. That's what impressed me the most about that performance of Mayweather
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It may have been a testement to Mayweather but I was talking about Zab. That's not what I said was absurd either. You said the only time he was hit with the right hand at will was against Mayweather. Well plenty of people have hit him with the right hand with regularity, and that's the reason he has every single one of those losses with the exception of Mayweather. Floyd could have beat him and was beating him without the right hand really. The right hand just salted it.
Re: if zab wins next saturday then he's the best
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Oh now I remember...
[youtube=425,350]5IXcdv2mKFQ[/youtube]
Well Zab definately has the dance moves ;D
Re: if zab wins next saturday then he's the best
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Originally Posted by amat
It may have been a testement to Mayweather but I was talking about Zab. That's not what I said was absurd either. You said the only time he was hit with the right hand at will was against Mayweather. Well plenty of people have hit him with the right hand with regularity, and that's the reason he has every single one of those losses with the exception of Mayweather. Floyd could have beat him and was beating him without the right hand really. The right hand just salted it.
I think you're overstating since Floyd used his left to set up the right, he wouldn't have beat Zab if he didn't use his right hand.
I've seen the second Spinks fight with more regularity but I've only seen the first Spinks fight once, and the only times I remember Spinks hitting him consistantly with 1-2's was in the first 3 rounds and in the last round(because Zab was stalking him) and then in the final round of their second fight. Actually....when I think about it, the rounds Spinks looked most spectacular in against Zab were the rounds in which he was knocked down..prior to that in the rounds he looked very very good. Strange....the round you're dominating the most is the round you get beat in ??? Can anyone upload the final round of the rematch to see what I mean?
Re: if zab wins next saturday then he's the best
IMO after Juda exploded on Tszyu with that uppercut, Tszyu pretty much had Juda figured out. If you rember, that right hand actually land twice (two 1-2's) in quick succession. I think, had that fight gone on longer. that right hand would of kept landing... Mayweather picking off Juda and Tszyu K.Oing him is juat a question of power rather than Judas defence.
Also in regards to the Spinks fight, wasnt i just the jab that got Spinks the first fight?
Re: if zab wins next saturday then he's the best
The first SPinks fights Judah was obviously not at his best or most focused, and against Tszyu... any good fighter will be able to figure another one out, but a guy like Judah or Mayweather adapt to counter that epiphany which makes them even harder.
Re: if zab wins next saturday then he's the best
Juda dosent adapt to anything.
The only time he showed improvement was when Spinks fell apart.
If anything Juda was even less discaplined in the second fight than the first.
Re: if zab wins next saturday then he's the best
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Originally Posted by Big Dawg934
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
If Zab wins, I'm gonna turn off my huge plasma TV, leave my 1000 square foot home theater, jump in my McClaren, head over to my girlfriend, Jessica Alba's place, and have hot wild raunchy sex all F****** night. Yes, that would be one helluva dreamworld. Too bad I live in the real world, Zab's getting KTFO.
if your gonna fuk jessica alba then I'm Mike Tyson, quit dreaming fagget
i get alot of pusy, u dream alot fukin idiot
'SOZ HARD'
The fact that he over emphasises the fact he gets pussy, tells me he's probably stil a virgin.
VIRGIN FACE
