Re: Felix Trinidad- Beat 3 out of 4 Olympic Gold medalists!
Tito hit like a truck with that left hook, you can't add a bit of gauze and turn a punch into a weapon. Paulie Malignaggi isn't going to add a bit of tape and start knocking people out, it's just silly.
Margarito supposedly was a cheater and he never had one-punch KO power, he had to beat on guys and wear them down.
Resto took the padding completely out of his gloves and also added something if I remember correctly, he beat on Billy Collins for 10 rounds and couldn't stop him.
Tito was a legit power puncher, you can't manufacture that shit, his haters need to get over it! Hopkins handed Tito his ass but Tito never should have been at 160 in the first place.
Re: Felix Trinidad- Beat 3 out of 4 Olympic Gold medalists!
Hahaha... You simply refuse to acknowledge these two quotes. I guess since they don't support your claim, you'll just ignore them.
Here's a quote from the man who was there, but you don't seem to want to address it...
Don Felix is quoted in an interview with Gerardo M. Avila-Planas and David Mesqueue as being asked:
"Do you think that the Hopkins camp did it (made them re-wrap Tito's hand) to get to you psychologically?" and he answered, "Well, it got to us a little because, since I couldn’t place the tape that I usually place on Tito’s hand... I had to add some more gauze to make a type of pillow... This tends to take away some of the power in the punch."
Here's a quote from a fighter who has decades in the sport and who spoke directly to his trainer concerning the infraction:
Bernard Hopkins weighed in on the matter with an interview with Bernard Fernandez of Philly.com.. Hopkins said, "If you put on tape, then gauze, then tape, then gauze, it's like a [plaster] cast. It's like being hit with a baseball bat. I'm giving out some secrets here, but you can dip your hands in ice water and that tape will, like, marinate and become harder. But it's only cheating if you get caught. Personally, I think Vargas' and Reid's people dropped the ball. Naazim did a brilliant job in spotting what [Felix Trinidad Sr.] was doing with the wraps." Don Felix was also putting tape on the skin and over the knuckles, both of which are not in accordance with NYSAC rules. New York's head commissioner put his foot down and made Don Felix wrap in strict accordance to the rules.
Also, more than one fighter has claimed that Tito's hands were already wrapped before their reps had arrived in the change room.
Re: Felix Trinidad- Beat 3 out of 4 Olympic Gold medalists!
Also, welcome to the forum @Alpha -- You should definitely ignore me like TitoFan and the rest of them do!
Re: Felix Trinidad- Beat 3 out of 4 Olympic Gold medalists!
Rocco it is you who continue to post the same material over and over again.
On point # 1, I'll choose to take the word of more than a few well-known trainers who have weighed in on the matter of gauzing and taping methods as they relate (or not relate) to power and how they only serve to protect a fighter's hands..... over the words of a well-meaning, but obviously misinformed Trinidad Sr., who unfortunately had his words pounced upon by haters such as yourself, to supposedly prove what has always been an asinine point.
On point # 2, Hopking surmising about dipping taped hands in water obviously prove that Trinidad is a cheater, right? You obviously chose to ignore Fenster's post, where he ridicules you for just that type of reasoning. And it is you who choose to ignore the fact that just about everybody in boxing who has talked about Trinidad's hand wrapping procedures has agreed that it's always been done under the supervision of the opposing corners, that he always promptly removes his wraps at the appropriate time after the fight, not like he's got anything to hide... and that for the millionth time... the wrapping method he had used just wasn't permitted by the NYSAC rules.
And for your information, I don't put anybody on ignore. I prefer to see every petty, childish, moronic thing people post, no matter how outlandish and lacking substance. But again, you have a perfect right to stand on that deserted island and sing your sad song.
The kicker here, which obviously will go ignored by you, is that none other than Nazeem Richardson, the guy who objected to the taping in the first place, has gone on record numerous times explaining what everyone here is fruitlessly trying to explain to you. Geeeeez..... maybe I should put you on ignore.
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So Papa Trinidad, the man who wraps the hands, is simply misinformed when he says his hand wrapping style increases Tito's power? Haha...
Okay.
I guess I'll just agree to disagree with you.
Trinidad the cheat for me, while Tito the hero with the misinformed dad who happens to wrap his left hand in secret for you.
As for you ignoring me, I'm not suggesting you use the ignore feature, I was responding to your post where you suggested to Alpha that he ignore me the way you and the rest of Saddo's does. It's funny, you can't even get that reference right, no wonder you're so confused about this Trinidad thing.
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ruthless rocco
So Papa Trinidad, the man who wraps the hands, is simply misinformed when he says his hand wrapping style increases Tito's power? Haha...
Okay.
I guess I'll just agree to disagree with you.
Trinidad the cheat for me, while Tito the hero with the misinformed dad who happens to wrap his left hand in secret for you.
As for you ignoring me, I'm not suggesting you use the ignore feature, I was responding to your post where you suggested to Alpha that he ignore me the way you and the rest of Saddo's does. It's funny, you can't even get that reference right, no wonder you're so confused about this Trinidad thing.
If the rest of the trainers universe asserts that taping and gauzing methods just serve to protect a fighter's hands, and does nothing to add power to the punch.... and Trinidad's dad incorrectly states that changing his methods takes away from the Trindad's power.... yes... I'll go with the rest of the trainers every time.
Trinidad had the hand wrapped already.... ceded to Richardson's demands that they be re-wrapped in accordance to NYSAC's particular rules, and the fight went on. No secret about it.
The only secret here is how you manage to put more than one sentence together, when all you do is parrot the hatemongers you read elsewhere. I think you've already made your asinine point, and nobody's rushing to your defense. You've been ridiculed or ignored repeatedly... so again... why don't you start your own "Tito is a cheater" forum... and quit poisoning this one with your bullshit.
I'll ask you once again, politely, to fuck off.
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The "rest of the trainers in the universe" huh...? That claim may need some backing up. Hahahaaaa!
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Seems like I've done something to bother you. Maybe you need to take a time out @TitoFan
Re: Felix Trinidad- Beat 3 out of 4 Olympic Gold medalists!
Tito would have knocked out your boy Mayweather
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Thsi thread was funny.... ;D;D;D;D
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Yeah, that unexpected left turn was hilarious.