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I think you are right in that it is no good waiting for the hammer to fall. GGG seems to slip into gear after the first round or two and by then he has learned how to close all the fire exits before you can start implementing any kind of evasive action.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
I also think that is Jacobs' only option. In saying that; fire will be coming back at him increasing his chances of getting caught.
Well the last fight out was not very impressive for me Brooke was giving GGG a lot more problems then i would of thought. Jacobs got a lot of speed to him and is good sized dude a long with good wins should be a good fight.
Was that more to the fact that GGG knew Brook was coming up in weight and may not have been able to hurt him like a natural middleweight would have? He did the same with Monroe. When Golovkin faces an opponent who can potentially hurt him (Lemieux, Stevens etc) his defense although spotty is usually on point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
I think we'll see the same GGG that fought Lemieux - pumping out the ramrod jab for 3-4 rounds totally taking the fight away from Jacobs then landing the bombs when the openings appear.
I also think this fight goes Hagler v Hearns at some point with some brutal toe to toe exchanges :cool:
People forget how good a Jab GGG has.
I will say though i think Jacobs is well in this fight after what i saw Brook do to GGG in patches.
This is a Full Blown genuine Middleweight with way more power than Brook and anyone who can come through what Jacobs has personally has the mental will to succeed in anything in life.
Decent boxer too Jacobs and he has the faster hands.
Royally Proper fight this one and fights like this don't come around too often - i think this is gonna be a special fight :cool:
Golovkin v Jacobs - HBO preview show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14wbuYS_FJ4
Okay, so this is the fight that I've been training for...all those late nights when I didn't make it to the main event, this is what I was honing my skills for. This is the weekend I make it to the main event!
Fuck the fight I'm gonna be cheering you on, go on my son you can fucking do it, show that fucking clock who's in charge.Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
I too shall be staying up for this one...in fact I stay up for pretty much all the fights these days, I think maybe I should start doing more with my weekends.
If you lot will, then so will I. I missed last weeks but will stay up for this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by BatmanFuck the fight I'm gonna be cheering you on, go on my son you can fucking do it, show that fucking clock who's in charge.Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
I too shall be staying up for this one...in fact I stay up for pretty much all the fights these days, I think maybe I should start doing more with my weekends.
ah man there we are all geared up for a good night of staying up drinking and watching boxing and then up rocks Buzz Killington himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterIf you lot will, then so will I. I missed last weeks but will stay up for this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by BatmanFuck the fight I'm gonna be cheering you on, go on my son you can fucking do it, show that fucking clock who's in charge.Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
I too shall be staying up for this one...in fact I stay up for pretty much all the fights these days, I think maybe I should start doing more with my weekends.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww3jzAkSOQI
only joking Master Sonny me old fella me lad matey skip me old pal from the briny, you knows I luvz ya baby
p.s. I'm drinking tonight Master so
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Originally Posted by MasterIf you lot will, then so will I. I missed last weeks but will stay up for this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by BatmanFuck the fight I'm gonna be cheering you on, go on my son you can fucking do it, show that fucking clock who's in charge.Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
I too shall be staying up for this one...in fact I stay up for pretty much all the fights these days, I think maybe I should start doing more with my weekends.
Mrs in Devon for weekend think I will join you all
I'm going to be on the road but wil do everything possible to be back in time.
I will record it and get up at 6 am to watch it , I'm to old for all night stay ups.
Also you don't have to listen to the utter bullshit from Johnny The none Entertainer Nelson.
If I can stay awake.....and you can stay awake....EVERRRRRYBODY CAN STAY AWAKEEEEEEE!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dean DukeQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterIf you lot will, then so will I. I missed last weeks but will stay up for this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by BatmanFuck the fight I'm gonna be cheering you on, go on my son you can fucking do it, show that fucking clock who's in charge.Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
I too shall be staying up for this one...in fact I stay up for pretty much all the fights these days, I think maybe I should start doing more with my weekends.
Mrs in Devon for weekend think I will join you all
Adrian....I did it!
I'm gonna try and get a ticket
I'd have loved to have flown over for this and looked into it but my baby is due anytime now so couldn't.
I've always fancied MSG over Vegas for a big fight as the venue is deep in history.
Definitely wanna see a Golovkin fight in New York in the future.
What's the buzz in the City like for this?
Jacobs is the homeboy but I hear he doesn't have a big fanbase?
Golovkin v Jacobs - Final NY press conference round-up
Jacobs has been sparring with Derevyanchenko, who is probably the best possible boxer to help him get ready for Golovkin.
He refused to fight Golovkin in December because he wanted more time to get ready. Now after the additional three months, he's very well-prepared for this fight.
Jacobs is very focused right now. An upset on Saturday wouldn't surprise me.
I would be surprised with a Jacobs victory. As I think most of the boxing world would be. It is a possibility but very slim in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
I agree. I think a lot of people, especially those basing Jacobs chances off of kell brook's performance, are going to be surprised. Barring a straight early Quinlin-ian blitz, I think Jacobs comes out and realizes the opportunities he thought was going to be there, aren't there. He has 2 options after that.. either a.) back off and try to coast around the perimeter and hope GGG sprains and ankle walking him down .... or... b.) pile on balls to the wall aggression hoping to see some light at the end of the tunnel (and wears himself out early).Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaI would be surprised with a Jacobs victory. As I think most of the boxing world would be. It is a possibility but very slim in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
Jacobs confidence is striking me as a bit of a red herring here. When you listen to him, he's trying to psych himself into believing he is up to the task. He might just be humble, but if i'm his trainer, i'm probably questioning his intent at this point. The people around him seem to know it too. If you listen to virgil hunters take he tips his hand in his comments that Jacobs has to "maintain the right mentality through the fight". He knows its not there all the time.
I just rewatched Jacobs/Pirog and thought Jacobs was winning the fight up until the stoppage and the stoppage was pretty dodgy. Jacobs was trying to get up and the ref pretty much just held him to the ground and stopped the count. Jacobs was shouting 'I'm okay' with some justifiable anger. Obviously not a man completely knocked from his senses. Jacobs is thought to be chinny because of that, but he would have continued and who knows? In the previous round Jacobs landed 3 times as many shots as Pirog and Lederman gave Pirog the round. Go figure. Jacobs is alright, but Golovkin is a monster. I'm supporting Jacobs.
Have to agree and I'll try to get into The Garden on Saturday with some last minute ticket thingy that the brothers from Flatbush "make available" right before the ~bell rings~
Jacobs was also dropped by Mora where I feel the chinny stuff gets substance. Fact was Jacobs was dropped hard by Pirog. Sure the ref might have called it of early but we never saw what Jacobs looked like while standing. You could compare it to Froch/ Groves II where Groves fell awkwardly and it was stopped. Personally I don't think Pirog was that big a puncher. Jacobs' chin is very shaky in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
I really do not know i am just saying that Jacobs can bang and he can box and has speed to go with it. He is about 10 x better then anyone i seen GGG with Brook being best talent so far i am looking forward to this fight big time.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaWas that more to the fact that GGG knew Brook was coming up in weight and may not have been able to hurt him like a natural middleweight would have? He did the same with Monroe. When Golovkin faces an opponent who can potentially hurt him (Lemieux, Stevens etc) his defense although spotty is usually on point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
I'm with ya. Most of us feel this is one of his biggest tests. Lemieux would have to up there. Murray. Brook. How would everyone see Lemieux/ Jacobs going?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140I really do not know i am just saying that Jacobs can bang and he can box and has speed to go with it. He is about 10 x better then anyone i seen GGG with Brook being best talent so far i am looking forward to this fight big time.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaWas that more to the fact that GGG knew Brook was coming up in weight and may not have been able to hurt him like a natural middleweight would have? He did the same with Monroe. When Golovkin faces an opponent who can potentially hurt him (Lemieux, Stevens etc) his defense although spotty is usually on point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
Eh i am sure that fight is going happen soon enough so i just wait and see that. I am just glad i have a fight to look forward to in 160 division been looking kinda bland lately which is nothing new with history that it has had.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaI'm with ya. Most of us feel this is one of his biggest tests. Lemieux would have to up there. Murray. Brook. How would everyone see Lemieux/ Jacobs going?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140I really do not know i am just saying that Jacobs can bang and he can box and has speed to go with it. He is about 10 x better then anyone i seen GGG with Brook being best talent so far i am looking forward to this fight big time.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaWas that more to the fact that GGG knew Brook was coming up in weight and may not have been able to hurt him like a natural middleweight would have? He did the same with Monroe. When Golovkin faces an opponent who can potentially hurt him (Lemieux, Stevens etc) his defense although spotty is usually on point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
The thing is many say Jacobs is going to be GGG's toughest test. Personally I see Jacobs/ Lemieux as 50/ 50. So I have to consider Lemieux around the same level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140Eh i am sure that fight is going happen soon enough so i just wait and see that. I am just glad i have a fight to look forward to in 160 division been looking kinda bland lately which is nothing new with history that it has had.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaI'm with ya. Most of us feel this is one of his biggest tests. Lemieux would have to up there. Murray. Brook. How would everyone see Lemieux/ Jacobs going?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140I really do not know i am just saying that Jacobs can bang and he can box and has speed to go with it. He is about 10 x better then anyone i seen GGG with Brook being best talent so far i am looking forward to this fight big time.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaWas that more to the fact that GGG knew Brook was coming up in weight and may not have been able to hurt him like a natural middleweight would have? He did the same with Monroe. When Golovkin faces an opponent who can potentially hurt him (Lemieux, Stevens etc) his defense although spotty is usually on point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
He was dropped like a ton of bricks, but he was arguing logically against the ref within seconds and recovered his senses enough to do an interview. It was hardly a Williams/Hatton type of KO, he was willing to beat the count, though in what state is up in the air like you suggest. Jacobs was winning that fight quite handily, though Pirog was making it awkward for him. Maybe his chin isn't good and no better way to test it than against GGG. Jacobs has the tools to win rounds, but sustaining it against GGG who is a league above what Pirog was is another question.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaJacobs was also dropped by Mora where I feel the chinny stuff gets substance. Fact was Jacobs was dropped hard by Pirog. Sure the ref might have called it of early but we never saw what Jacobs looked like while standing. You could compare it to Froch/ Groves II where Groves fell awkwardly and it was stopped. Personally I don't think Pirog was that big a puncher. Jacobs' chin is very shaky in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Interested to know who you'd favor in a Jacobs/ Lemieux clash? The thing for me is that we have seen GGG take punches and barely flinch. Lemieux hit him a number of times in their bout. Brook, Munroe landed clean also. He reminds me of the terminator. (I know that's a bit overboard) but he just keeps coming. Jacobs on the other hand has shown vulnerabilities and his chin is a liability that you can't afford to have against Golovkin. In truth I'm hoping for a Hagler/ Hearns type brawl for 3 to 5 rounds with both guys throwing caution to the wind and unloading bombs until one is separated from his senses.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfHe was dropped like a ton of bricks, but he was arguing logically against the ref within seconds and recovered his senses enough to do an interview. It was hardly a Williams/Hatton type of KO, he was willing to beat the count, though in what state is up in the air like you suggest. Jacobs was winning that fight quite handily, though Pirog was making it awkward for him. Maybe his chin isn't good and no better way to test it than against GGG. Jacobs has the tools to win rounds, but sustaining it against GGG who is a league above what Pirog was is another question.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaJacobs was also dropped by Mora where I feel the chinny stuff gets substance. Fact was Jacobs was dropped hard by Pirog. Sure the ref might have called it of early but we never saw what Jacobs looked like while standing. You could compare it to Froch/ Groves II where Groves fell awkwardly and it was stopped. Personally I don't think Pirog was that big a puncher. Jacobs' chin is very shaky in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
If Jacobs has been hurt and put down then that spells trouble for him against GGG. It could be a short night.
LIVE: Watch GGG v Jacobs weigh-in at 1pm
LIVE: Watch GGG v Jacobs weigh-in at 1pm
I cant see anything other than a systematic beatdown by Golovkin.
He wont walk at him face first like he did with Brook and others. He'll give Jacobs the respect he gave Lemieux and dish out a one sided hammering.
Gennady Golovkin: 159.6 lbs
Daniel Jacobs: 159.8 lbs
Why's the weigh-in so early (completely out the loop with boxing this week, got shitloads of stuff saved to vids/pods/read)?
If GGG was fighting Canelo then I would understand it as it gives the Mexican time to put back on his weight but it should make little difference to both fighters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Unless it is to maximise public interest.
Exactly. this is very interesting. This weigh in was held about about at least 6-8 hours earlier than the usual weigh in. Presumably it would benefit Jacobs who had to lose almost 8lbs in the last 7 days and is the bigger guy. It could benefit GGG too but he's probably only going back up maybe 8-9lbs. (His same day weigh in for Lemieux was 168.2). The Jacobs camp said they "wanted to come in heavy". Theres another weigh in tomorrow at 9am to make sure neither guy has put on more than 10 lbs. Jacobs has started rehydrating and then after that weigh in tomorrow, jacobs can start eating his way back up till about maybe 4pm if he does't want to feel bloated and lethargic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Here's the official reason on the early weigh in: "The Golovkin-Jacobs weigh-in was scheduled for 9 a.m. Friday largely because the New York State Athletic Commission must regulate another show Friday night in The Theater at Madison Square Garden. Irish Olympian Michael Conlan’s pro debut will be the main event of that card, which will be promoted by Top Rank Inc. and televised on delay by UniMas (11 p.m. ET/PT)"
source: Sanchez: Early Weigh-In Friday Isn't an Advantage For Jacobs - Boxing News
Fight can not come fast enough last time i was this hyped for 160 it was when Pavlik won the title. This has the making a good fight lets just hope it looks as good as it does on paper and should be better.
Always concerns me seeing fighters feverishly chewing gum. Always says to me I'm dry, or I'm shitting myself.
Yeah nerves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
Jacobs brings power . you always have a chance if you have power.
True anything can happen in that ring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
$55.95 is a tough sell! I wouldn't be shocked to see him take Jacobs out within 3 or 4 honestly.