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So we should be like the casuals, umm, no. And we shouldn't talk to each other like them either.
Yes, the circus is great for the casuals. But to come here with the real fight fans and discuss it as if it is valid because people are talking about it. My God, you're becoming casuals yourself.
Everything has its place, yes. And our place should be above validating what isn't valid. If you want to scream and shout with all those that don't care about a real fight that's super. Where I am genuinely offended is when people who know better come here and talk as if publicity equals validity. It's offensive to all logic and truth.
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Ron Swanson
So we should be like the casuals, umm, no. And we shouldn't talk to each other like them either.
Yes, the circus is great for the casuals. But to come here with the real fight fans and discuss it as if it is valid because people are talking about it. My God, you're becoming casuals yourself.
Everything has its place, yes. And our place should be above validating what isn't valid. If you want to scream and shout with all those that don't care about a real fight that's super. Where I am genuinely offended is when people who know better come here and talk as if publicity equals validity. It's offensive to all logic and truth.
Your beginning to talk shit now, who the fuck are you to say that a casual fight fan shouldn't join this forum or any forum on the back of a fight like Haye v Bellew that maybe they enjoyed so much has turned them into a potential hardcore fan?
I've been watching fights live from when i was 11-12 years old when my Brother used to take me to the Royal Albert Hall to watch Pat Barrett and other Micky Duff fighters.
I was new to Boxing then (a casual) and loved it and remember Barrett being explosive, all action and very entertaining, do you think i was a purist back then or grew and learned to appreciate the more scientific tactical fighters like Floyd over the years as i watched more and more fights?
It's dinosaurs like you who actually stop the sport growing ;)
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Pat Barrett had a bomb of a punch, think his son boxes.
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smashup
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Originally Posted by
Ron Swanson
So we should be like the casuals, umm, no. And we shouldn't talk to each other like them either.
Yes, the circus is great for the casuals. But to come here with the real fight fans and discuss it as if it is valid because people are talking about it. My God, you're becoming casuals yourself.
Everything has its place, yes. And our place should be above validating what isn't valid. If you want to scream and shout with all those that don't care about a real fight that's super. Where I am genuinely offended is when people who know better come here and talk as if publicity equals validity. It's offensive to all logic and truth.
Your beginning to talk shit now, who the fuck are you to say that a casual fight fan shouldn't join this forum or any forum on the back of a fight like Haye v Bellew that maybe they enjoyed so much has turned them into a potential hardcore fan?
I've been watching fights live from when i was 11-12 years old when my Brother used to take me to the Royal Albert Hall to watch Pat Barrett and other Micky Duff fighters.
I was new to Boxing then (a casual) and loved it and remember Barrett being explosive, all action and very entertaining, do you think i was a purist back then or grew and learned to appreciate the more scientific tactical fighters like Floyd over the years as i watched more and more fights?
It's dinosaurs like you who actually stop the sport growing ;)
It looks as if you didn't understand a word I said. Because your points have absolutely nothing to do with what I said. You're arguing with yourself.
I'll list all the ways you seem incoherent.
1)"who the fuck are you to say a casual fight fan shouldn't join this forum or any forum"
I never said anything about that.
2)"do you think I was a purist back then or grew and learned to appreciate...."
Again, absolutely nothing to do with what I'm saying.
3)it's dinosaurs like you who stop the sport growing
Again, I didn't say anything to suggest anything about stopping the sport growing. I'm saying educated fans should have an honest dialogue. Saying publicity equals validity is bullshit. By that measure Mayweather/Pacquiao is the greatest fight ever. Umm, no it was not. I'm saying everything has its place and we should be honest. There are a lot of circus fights being made. Always has been, that's true. But it's still a circus fight and should be acknowledged as such even if crazy circumstances happen that accidentally turn the fight compelling.
If there is no honesty then you get Haye trying to con a rematch. You get Wilder trying to further his BS career acting as if Bellew is a legitimate opponent. If the fans accept BS without calling BS then all we will get is BS.
Look how Pacquiao chooses opponents, floating soft names out there and sitting back guaging the publics response. First soft opponent that doesn't outrage the public will be his opponent. Looks like that's Khan. It's been what 6 years since he's held a belt? It does nothing for Manny's resume. It's a cash grab and should be acknowledged as such.
A circus fight, whether it sells or not, should be called a circus fight.
A mismatch, whether it sells or not, should be called a mismatch.
Etcetera etcetera. None of this hurts the growth of the sport. If the sport can't tolerate honesty then what the f are we talking about?
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Ron Swanson
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Originally Posted by
smashup
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Originally Posted by
Ron Swanson
So we should be like the casuals, umm, no. And we shouldn't talk to each other like them either.
Yes, the circus is great for the casuals. But to come here with the real fight fans and discuss it as if it is valid because people are talking about it. My God, you're becoming casuals yourself.
Everything has its place, yes. And our place should be above validating what isn't valid. If you want to scream and shout with all those that don't care about a real fight that's super. Where I am genuinely offended is when people who know better come here and talk as if publicity equals validity. It's offensive to all logic and truth.
Your beginning to talk shit now, who the fuck are you to say that a casual fight fan shouldn't join this forum or any forum on the back of a fight like Haye v Bellew that maybe they enjoyed so much has turned them into a potential hardcore fan?
I've been watching fights live from when i was 11-12 years old when my Brother used to take me to the Royal Albert Hall to watch Pat Barrett and other Micky Duff fighters.
I was new to Boxing then (a casual) and loved it and remember Barrett being explosive, all action and very entertaining, do you think i was a purist back then or grew and learned to appreciate the more scientific tactical fighters like Floyd over the years as i watched more and more fights?
It's dinosaurs like you who actually stop the sport growing ;)
It looks as if you didn't understand a word I said. Because your points have absolutely nothing to do with what I said. You're arguing with yourself.
I'll list all the ways you seem incoherent.
1)"who the fuck are you to say a casual fight fan shouldn't join this forum or any forum"
I never said anything about that.
2)"do you think I was a purist back then or grew and learned to appreciate...."
Again, absolutely nothing to do with what I'm saying.
3)it's dinosaurs like you who stop the sport growing
Again, I didn't say anything to suggest anything about stopping the sport growing. I'm saying educated fans should have an honest dialogue. Saying publicity equals validity is bullshit. By that measure Mayweather/Pacquiao is the greatest fight ever. Umm, no it was not. I'm saying everything has its place and we should be honest. There are a lot of circus fights being made. Always has been, that's true. But it's still a circus fight and should be acknowledged as such even if crazy circumstances happen that accidentally turn the fight compelling.
If there is no honesty then you get Haye trying to con a rematch. You get Wilder trying to further his BS career acting as if Bellew is a legitimate opponent. If the fans accept BS without calling BS then all we will get is BS.
Look how Pacquiao chooses opponents, floating soft names out there and sitting back guaging the publics response. First soft opponent that doesn't outrage the public will be his opponent. Looks like that's Khan. It's been what 6 years since he's held a belt? It does nothing for Manny's resume. It's a cash grab and should be acknowledged as such.
A circus fight, whether it sells or not, should be called a circus fight.
A mismatch, whether it sells or not, should be called a mismatch.
Etcetera etcetera. None of this hurts the growth of the sport. If the sport can't tolerate honesty then what the f are we talking about?
Not even god knows what the fuck your talking about.
So your telling us you were born then became an elite boxing anorak and were never a "casual fan" to start with, you know like we all were as kids? ;D - i ask this because you claim to not entertain any fight you don't consider a "Real Fight" i.e. for a world title
Prince Naseem Hamed was ringside (as a fan) at Haye v Bellew...... is he merely a "casual fan"...?
And Yes you clearly state that "casual fans" shouldn't "come here and discuss" with "real fight fans" - "Circus fights are good for the casuals" blah blah
Can a casual fan not enjoy and appreciate a technical fight then? (in your opinion)
And i never said that you said anything about stopping the sport growing...... i told you that people like you do.
I'm also publicly telling you that your a Wanker :)
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It all goes back to paying for circus fights. I have zero problem with them. They are fine and attract certain positive attention to the sport. I just don't get why fans actually pay for this stuff. I mean honestly, some of you are willing to fork out money to watch these circus fights?
I just feel like if we accepted these sideshows for what they are and refused to actually pay extra money for them, then we would get more mainstream fights and the sport would be bigger.
Maybe the UK is different, but where I live in America, boxing isn't big whatsoever. I never run into people who actually watch boxing. Most people are shocked when I say boxing is my favorite sport. Most people's excuse for not watching is that it isn't accessible. That's because it's generally on HBO or Showtime or a PPV fight.
That's how a sport dies out. It becomes inaccessible because us as fans are willing to pay for a bad product. If nobody bought the hate and bellew fight, then they would understand that us fans won't buy into awful products. They keep selling it because we keep buying it.
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Ron Swanson
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Great thread. Sad that people defend the circus. At the highest levels there should be the highest levels of competition.
I joined Gandalf in not even watching the circus for free. I watched the real fight.
The one where both men refused to fight - utter shite/snoozefest Thurman v Garcia and they were booed from midway non stop until the end.
Haye v Bellew entertained, had loads of Drama and the crowd loved it.
I know which one i'd rather watch miss match or not
Yes, you're the target audience. The drama, the trash talk. I'm not the target audience, I prefer the sport of sport. I know I'll always be in the minority. But someone should speak up for sport because we know the crowds will always speak with their money for empty bluster.
Boxing hipster in the house.
You can't separate the purity of the sport from the out of the ring sideshow that comes with it. And why would you want to anyway? How can you care who wins if you turn a complete blind eye to their out of the ring personalities? I'm totally at a loss to how somebody could prefer the utter shitfest and letdown of a fight which was Thurman - Garcia to what we saw earlier on in the night.
From a purity point of view, if you ignore the build up and out of the ring bullshit, Haye and Bellew was still a much more entertaining fight. It just was and any argument on the contrary is pure boxing elitism.
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It all goes back to paying for circus fights. I have zero problem with them. They are fine and attract certain positive attention to the sport. I just don't get why fans actually pay for this stuff. I mean honestly, some of you are willing to fork out money to watch these circus fights?
I just feel like if we accepted these sideshows for what they are and refused to actually pay extra money for them, then we would get more mainstream fights and the sport would be bigger.
Maybe the UK is different, but where I live in America, boxing isn't big whatsoever. I never run into people who actually watch boxing. Most people are shocked when I say boxing is my favorite sport. Most people's excuse for not watching is that it isn't accessible. That's because it's generally on HBO or Showtime or a PPV fight.
That's how a sport dies out. It becomes inaccessible because us as fans are willing to pay for a bad product. If nobody bought the hate and bellew fight, then they would understand that us fans won't buy into awful products. They keep selling it because we keep buying it.
People pay for it because they don't mind doing so. It's 20 quid at the end of the day. I think amongst the younger adult generation there's a tendency to group together with friends and all chip in a couple of quid. That's what I've always done with ppv boxing.
At the end of the day, PPV raises the importance of the event to the extent where a group of friends will decide to get together and make a proper night of it, and the money it generates also allows a promoter to usually get a few fairly high profile fighters on the card. PPV cards in Britain are usually fairly ok value content wise.
I'd prefer it was free, but it's not. And I don't think many will have felt short changed by midnight on Saturday.
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powerpuncher
It all goes back to paying for circus fights. I have zero problem with them. They are fine and attract certain positive attention to the sport. I just don't get why fans actually pay for this stuff. I mean honestly, some of you are willing to fork out money to watch these circus fights?
I just feel like if we accepted these sideshows for what they are and refused to actually pay extra money for them, then we would get more mainstream fights and the sport would be bigger.
Maybe the UK is different, but where I live in America, boxing isn't big whatsoever. I never run into people who actually watch boxing. Most people are shocked when I say boxing is my favorite sport. Most people's excuse for not watching is that it isn't accessible. That's because it's generally on HBO or Showtime or a PPV fight.
That's how a sport dies out. It becomes inaccessible because us as fans are willing to pay for a bad product. If nobody bought the hate and bellew fight, then they would understand that us fans won't buy into awful products. They keep selling it because we keep buying it.
It is not the hardcore fans that make what people keep calling the 'circus fights' viable. The majority of those buying the fight are what people keep calling 'the casuals' . so if the hardcore fans refused to pay for the PPV 'circus fights' it would make no difference. Those who don't usually watch boxing will outnumber them. It's a bit like manufactured pop acts charting at number one. So people who can appreciate quality will not usually go out and buy those singles, but those not that into music, or young inexperienced buyers who have an initial shorter attention span will pay to download something that does not take any understanding of nuance or musicianship or novelty or irony or subtlety etc and therefore make shite boybands go straight to number one.
So basically Haye and Bellew are like an older and uglier version of a boy band for casual fans. :dancer:
Boxing is not about to die out. They have been saying that it is about to keel over for years.
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Ron Swanson
So we should be like the casuals, umm, no. And we shouldn't talk to each other like them either.
Yes, the circus is great for the casuals. But to come here with the real fight fans and discuss it as if it is valid because people are talking about it. My God, you're becoming casuals yourself.
Everything has its place, yes. And our place should be above validating what isn't valid. If you want to scream and shout with all those that don't care about a real fight that's super. Where I am genuinely offended is when people who know better come here and talk as if publicity equals validity. It's offensive to all logic and truth.
Again, so elitist. It's like you don't want to admit enjoying it because lesser intelligent casuals also enjoy it. Boxing is boxing. That's as simple as it gets. It was simply a world champion stepping up a weight to fight a former world champion. You seem mad that people wanted to watch it.
There would have been more discussion on her regarding the Thurman - Garcia fight had it not been a shitfest. What is there really to talk about? Thurman wasn't a decisive winner but nobody is arsed about them doing it again. Just about sums it up. There isn't a positive thing to say about it.
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ono
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Great thread. Sad that people defend the circus. At the highest levels there should be the highest levels of competition.
I joined Gandalf in not even watching the circus for free. I watched the real fight.
The one where both men refused to fight - utter shite/snoozefest Thurman v Garcia and they were booed from midway non stop until the end.
Haye v Bellew entertained, had loads of Drama and the crowd loved it.
I know which one i'd rather watch miss match or not
Yes, you're the target audience. The drama, the trash talk. I'm not the target audience, I prefer the sport of sport. I know I'll always be in the minority. But someone should speak up for sport because we know the crowds will always speak with their money for empty bluster.
Boxing
hipster in the house.
You can't separate the purity of the sport from the out of the ring sideshow that comes with it. And why would you want to anyway? How can you care who wins if you turn a complete blind eye to their out of the ring personalities? I'm totally at a loss to how somebody could prefer the utter shitfest and letdown of a fight which was Thurman - Garcia to what we saw earlier on in the night.
From a purity point of view, if you ignore the build up and out of the ring bullshit, Haye and Bellew was still a much more entertaining fight. It just was and any argument on the contrary is pure boxing elitism.
....and Ono knows one when he reads one. He had that beard even before Moses though it might catch on..:pimp2:
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I think these fights have their place & when we get upsets like we did it adds even more layers to the sport.
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smashup
Without fights like Haye v Bellew, circus, pantomim, drama etc the sport doesn't attract new fans.
Look at Floyds last 6-7 fights.... the main man in the sport who single handedly gave UFC more viewers on a fucking plate through running round the ring pot shotting his opponents.
Technically brilliant yes
Entertaining no
I'll watch two obscure 50-50 journeymen in a war before I make ufc a priority OR tune in for Floyd boxing by the numbers for $65.95, but it's not like Dana White and one of his biggest stars think Floyd is not the main attraction with all the 'match' talk going on.
The great thing about the sport is the depth, global spread and individuals. Boxing fans have many many options and endless networks.
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there's nothing wrong with the fights you mentioned
I found them all entertaining, the fights and the build up and anticipation
whats the problem?
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erics44
there's nothing wrong with the fights you mentioned
I found them all entertaining, the fights and the build up and anticipation
whats the problem?
The problem is you think anything is worthy of ppv.
Absolutely anything.
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Anything is worthy if you can sell it.
Fans that "know" what's good or bad for the sport are always the most naive. Always telling everyone what money this fighter should accept or that fighter shouldn't accept. Always know best about who should fight who - when, where, what weight, for how much. Why everything should be free.
They know something the cunts swanning around in the Bentley's don't (;D)
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Problem is they could sell anything and eric will buy it.
AJ v Eubank Jnr next?
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Master
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erics44
there's nothing wrong with the fights you mentioned
I found them all entertaining, the fights and the build up and anticipation
whats the problem?
The problem is you think anything is worthy of ppv.
Absolutely anything.
I don't think anything is PPV worthy
I never bought Bellew Clev 2
although I cant think of any others recently I haven't bought
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Originally Posted by
erics44
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
erics44
there's nothing wrong with the fights you mentioned
I found them all entertaining, the fights and the build up and anticipation
whats the problem?
The problem is you think anything is worthy of ppv.
Absolutely anything.
I don't think anything is PPV worthy
I never bought Bellew Clev 2
although I cant think of any others recently I haven't bought
There you go. Anything!
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
erics44
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
erics44
there's nothing wrong with the fights you mentioned
I found them all entertaining, the fights and the build up and anticipation
whats the problem?
The problem is you think anything is worthy of ppv.
Absolutely anything.
I don't think anything is PPV worthy
I never bought Bellew Clev 2
although I cant think of any others recently I haven't bought
There you go. Anything!
thing is tho I'm a boxing fan and if I don't buy them I wouldn't get to see them live
so what do I achieve by not buying them
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Originally Posted by
erics44
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
erics44
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
erics44
there's nothing wrong with the fights you mentioned
I found them all entertaining, the fights and the build up and anticipation
whats the problem?
The problem is you think anything is worthy of ppv.
Absolutely anything.
I don't think anything is PPV worthy
I never bought Bellew Clev 2
although I cant think of any others recently I haven't bought
There you go. Anything!
thing is tho I'm a boxing fan and if I don't buy them I wouldn't get to see them live
so what do I achieve by not buying them
If you do not buy then they will not put up these manufactured mismatches.
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I didn't know the boxing world held me with such high esteem
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If a fight holds even a little interest I end up paying for it, that doesn't mean I agree with it but I don't wanna miss it regardless.
its not going to change any time soon.
The only one I didn't pay for recently was Jr's on itv
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Can everyone that pays for boxing please stop ruining it for all the two bob miserable ponce cunts - like Master - that watch every fight for free. Thanks.
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Can everyone that pays for boxing please stop ruining it for all the two bob miserable ponce cunts - like Master - that watch every fight for free. Thanks.
Only by uniting and taking a stand will Sky/Hearn stop this crap.
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If a fight holds even a little interest I end up paying for it, that doesn't mean I agree with it but I don't wanna miss it regardless.
its not going to change any time soon.
The only one I didn't pay for recently was Jr's on itv
I got Jr's
I quite enjoyed it
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erics44
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Batman
If a fight holds even a little interest I end up paying for it, that doesn't mean I agree with it but I don't wanna miss it regardless.
its not going to change any time soon.
The only one I didn't pay for recently was Jr's on itv
I got Jr's
I quite enjoyed it
I knew you would.
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Originally Posted by
erics44
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
erics44
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
erics44
there's nothing wrong with the fights you mentioned
I found them all entertaining, the fights and the build up and anticipation
whats the problem?
The problem is you think anything is worthy of ppv.
Absolutely anything.
I don't think anything is PPV worthy
I never bought Bellew Clev 2
although I cant think of any others recently I haven't bought
There you go. Anything!
thing is tho I'm a boxing fan and if I don't buy them I wouldn't get to see them live
so what do I achieve by not buying them
Right , so let's see if this helps you get what @Master and I are saying.....
You love going for a curry, so you go twice a week. Then they hike the prices up a bit. You still keep going.
Then they double the price, you still keep going. Then they treble or even quadruple the price, you can only go once a week or once a fortnight because you can't afford it.
When they hike the price up again, you start whinging saying " them greedy bastards ruined my curry nights, the thieving rip off cunts!"
Who's fucking fault is that?
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Primo Carnera
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erics44
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
erics44
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
erics44
there's nothing wrong with the fights you mentionedI found them all entertaining, the fights and the build up and anticipationwhats the problem?
The problem is you think anything is worthy of ppv. Absolutely anything.
I don't think anything is PPV worthyI never bought Bellew Clev 2although I cant think of any others recently I haven't bought
There you go. Anything!
thing is tho I'm a boxing fan and if I don't buy them I wouldn't get to see them liveso what do I achieve by not buying them
Right , so let's see if this helps you get what @
Master and I are saying.....You love going for a curry, so you go twice a week. Then they hike the prices up a bit. You still keep going. Then they double the price, you still keep going. Then they treble or even quadruple the price, you can only go once a week or once a fortnight because you can't afford it. When they hike the price up again, you start whinging saying " them greedy bastards ruined my curry nights, the thieving rip off cunts!" Who's fucking fault is that?
The restaurant or curry house.
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Beanz
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Originally Posted by
Primo Carnera
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Originally Posted by
erics44
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
erics44
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
erics44
there's nothing wrong with the fights you mentionedI found them all entertaining, the fights and the build up and anticipationwhats the problem?
The problem is you think anything is worthy of ppv. Absolutely anything.
I don't think anything is PPV worthyI never bought Bellew Clev 2although I cant think of any others recently I haven't bought
There you go. Anything!
thing is tho I'm a boxing fan and if I don't buy them I wouldn't get to see them liveso what do I achieve by not buying them
Right , so let's see if this helps you get what @
Master and I are saying.....You love going for a curry, so you go twice a week. Then they hike the prices up a bit. You still keep going. Then they double the price, you still keep going. Then they treble or even quadruple the price, you can only go once a week or once a fortnight because you can't afford it. When they hike the price up again, you start whinging saying " them greedy bastards ruined my curry nights, the thieving rip off cunts!" Who's fucking fault is that?
The restaurant or curry house.
No! It is Eric for keeping on paying for the expensive curry. He will buy anything.
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Where is this expensive Curry House ?;)
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Smokin Jalfrezi v Martin Rogan Josh
Would that matchup please you Curry fight fans? ;D
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Smokin Jalfrezi v Martin Rogan Josh
Would that matchup please you Curry fight fans? ;D
Donald and Bruce Curry.
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This could grow legs this one ;D
Abhuna Nelson v Cassius Clay Oven
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Jeff Fenugreek v Calvin Clove.
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Jeff Fenugreek ;D;D;D;D;D;D
Jo Jo Dhansak v Rocky Murg Musallam
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Darnell Bhuna v Sag Aloo (Takaloo)
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You are not taking this seriously. :mad:
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Souleyman Bombay (Potato) v Khalia Allakhverdiev
