That's pretty messed up if he declined the neutral judges.
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That's pretty messed up if he declined the neutral judges.
Usually in these cases, you have that option of one Russian judge, one American judge and one from neither.... or you could have all 3 neutral. Like one from Canada, one from the UK, and one from say Japan? The thing is Kovalev fought in both Canada and the UK. Maybe the foreign judges had a chance to see him live. Ward, being in a super 6 international tournament was the only one "lucky" :rolleyes: enough to fight every match at home, though there were international judges mandated as part of the rules. Don't see why its a problem now.
I want Kov to win by a spectacular knockout. However, I thought he was limited in the second half of the fight with a very low output in a fight that wasn't exactly high tempo. He can throw a mean jab and a good one two and then maybe a 3 punch combination, but that's where he seems to stop and Ward seemed able to predict it more easily as the fight went on. It was quite mechanical. That's where I think a really good fighter like Calzaghe would make a mockery of both of these guys. Prime Hopkins too. I struggle to be impressed by fighters who huff and puff on 20-30 punches a round. Great fighters throw a lot and don't get tired over 12. So, I think Ward has the brains to do it better this time, but I hope he gets caught as there is nothing worse than a self proclaimed Son of God. Stick him on the cross and make him go away and none of that chocolate bunny nonsense.
Coming over to this thread with your calzaghe love too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
This guy who calls undisputed top 5 p4p fighters limited. He has jokes.
Yep, I thought both guys were a bit stodgy in the last fight. To be fair both guys have been looking stodgy for a while. Maybe age also playing a part. I have never really rated Ward. Kovalev did look much better against the Cleverly types, but since Hopkins he hasn't been that impressive. Everyone beats Pascal including old Hopkins. It is a shame there are few high ouput, speedy, intelligent southpaws out there to really put it all into perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherComing over to this thread with your calzaghe love too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
This guy who calls undisputed top 5 p4p fighters limited. He has jokes.
that is what i had too, flipping one round the other way isnt a big deal in my opinion so ward is a fair winner. I find it a bit odd that all of the judges ended up with the same scores but whatever :SQuote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
I also think ward underestimated or was surprised by kovalevs power but came back really well and will have an easier time this time round and win by 3 or more rounds.
Ward was visibly shocked by Kov's power in the first round and then got knocked down in the second. For Ward to come back from that was very impressive. I had it 7-5 to Ward and the knock down made it a draw.Quote:
Originally Posted by palmerqthat is what i had too, flipping one round the other way isnt a big deal in my opinion so ward is a fair winner. I find it a bit odd that all of the judges ended up with the same scores but whatever :SQuote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
I also think ward underestimated or was surprised by kovalevs power but came back really well and will have an easier time this time round and win by 3 or more rounds.
Kovalev really seems to have a bee in his bonnet coming into this one. I think the dislike can add to his motivation but I feel he needs to fight behind his jab like he did early in the 1st fight and set up his shots. If he fights angry I think it will play into Wards hands. Ward will smother that sort of aggression and be in his element.
7-5 to ward = 115-113 the knockdown would make it 114-113 to ward by your round scoring not a draw... with adding like this have you ever considering being a pro judge :SQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterWard was visibly shocked by Kov's power in the first round and then got knocked down in the second. For Ward to come back from that was very impressive. I had it 7-5 to Ward and the knock down made it a draw.Quote:
Originally Posted by palmerqthat is what i had too, flipping one round the other way isnt a big deal in my opinion so ward is a fair winner. I find it a bit odd that all of the judges ended up with the same scores but whatever :SQuote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
I also think ward underestimated or was surprised by kovalevs power but came back really well and will have an easier time this time round and win by 3 or more rounds.