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Re: 19 dead in Manchester
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Master
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Dark Lord Al
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Freedom
Yes little girls are the cowards target now , all in the name of allah.
This was a terrorist no different to the killer Jo Cox. You would not blame and label all white (Christian) people for that murder so why blame all Muslims for this atrocity?
Read the news,
Muslim taxi drivers, shop owners, and houses were opened up to help the victims. This was an attack on Manchester and the community got together to help.
Big difference, the guy who killed Cox did not do it in the name of a mythical god . Both criminals ? yes .
In case you hadn't noticed killers like the coward child killer are part of Islamic state who kill in the name of allah , nothing to do with colour master but everything to do with religion.
I'm guessing these where not the same muslim taxi drivers who groomed and raped children and are now free to roam the streets and we are unable to deport them back to Pakistan ?
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El Kabong
Well gee that cleared EVERYTHING up bud, thanks for taking the time.
All I'm saying is this part of the forum says specifically "Anything and everything non boxing can be talked about in here."....Now, if that isn't the case then I guess point me in the direction of where that part of the forum is and I'll HAPPILY post there, if allowed of course.
.....also I find it curious that a Mod who has the special magical powers to move any thread they see fit to any part of the forum they wish SPICOLI laments that certain people might need their own "special section".....man if you want the thread moved move it then! I can't move it, I'll ask "Where would you like for me to post so that it does not annoy you?" as well, but apparently I just have to play the guessing game and think "Would Spicoli find this appropriate to post?" every single time I post.
I'm a lil irked my man, lil irked....if I was a 'Family matters' character I'd be Steve Irk-el.....I'm just trying to follow the rules, the forum says "anything and everything"....what part of my posts is not included in "anything and everything"? I want to follow the rules, help ME help YOU.....just lay it out for me and I'll color inside the lines, I promise
Be irked man. You're entitled and its a free country. Still. Oh and trust me, they do get moved and sometimes just flat deleted. You've made it a point to point those out also. Save that victim card Lyle you know you've got more roots and rope here than most. You are the last to walk on egg shells and that's not what it's about, even the simplest even well intentioned thread needs to turn into a spammed up redundant click bate fest trying to drive a political point, conspiracy or shit radio show home. This began as a decent thread, posters immediately impacted..now we're here. Same topic, multiple threads.
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Re: 19 dead in Manchester
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Spicoli
Be irked man. You're entitled and its a free country. Still. Oh and trust me, they do get moved and sometimes just flat deleted. You've made it a point to point those out also. Save that victim card Lyle you know you've got more roots and rope here than most. You are the last to walk on egg shells and that's not what it's about, even the simplest even well intentioned thread needs to turn into a spammed up redundant click bate fest trying to drive a political point, conspiracy or shit radio show home. This began as a decent thread, posters immediately impacted..now we're here. Same topic, multiple threads.
I'm not seeking special treatment and I'm not playing the victim card, I just want to understand what is and isn't acceptable because obviously the "Anything & everything goes" Off Topic decree is a misnomer or else people wouldn't be getting so touchy about what is posted.
Terrorist attacks are aggravating....tragic, yes every single fucking time it's a tragedy when someone does something like what happened in Manchester, please I am sorry, excuse me if I or anyone else feels a bit frustrated about these goings on. I had wished and hoped and prayed that 9/11 was the first and last of it....apparently not. Now if people get to talking about how the problem could be solved or mitigated or lessened and they disagree should that not be allowed? Is this not the place? If not, then where? If all you want this thread to be is a #thoughtsandprayerswithManchester #Manchesterstrong kind of thread then let me know I'll back out of this thread and start a different one altogether.....would a 'The Latest Terrorist Attack' thread in the super secret section of the forum be better? If so just let me know and I'll confine my comments re terrorist attacks to that single thread. All you have to do is say "Yes, I would appreciate that" and I'd do it.
Same topic multiple threads happens on the main board too....again, YOU are a Mod, YOU have the power to merge, delete, move threads....so why are you complaining? I certainly can't do any of those things and if I'm in one thread and someone gives me shit in another thread, then by God I'll answer it because communication between posters is the reason for the site to begin with. I'm not made at you, I'm just confused....if you just want to complain then complain, by all means, but, you actually have the ability to change things so I see your complaints as unnecessary.
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I read another forum (a villa one) and it's pretty heavily modded (to the point it spoils the forum) but this is a pretty emotional topic and even over there is has gone the same way as this one has.
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Re: 19 dead in Manchester
It's tough to know what the answer is to these tragedies. I saw an archbishop on a TV talk show saying the Pope would probably and predictably say the best way to respond is not with more violence, but with unity, reaching out and understanding.
I can't even imagine what it's like to live in a country where now you can't even go to a damn concert, for fear of being blown to smithereens. We have a lot of problems in this side of the world, and more specifically in the tropical island where I live. But nothing compares with the loss of freedom that this type of incident causes the average person.
A person walked into a concert filled with young kids and blew himself up, killing now 22 people, maybe more. Apparently some here even have been touched even indirectly by this tragedy. It's hard to get your mind around that.
What's the answer? The knee-jerk reaction is to go out and obliterate all known or suspected terrorists in a vengeful seek-and-destroy mission. (At least that's MY first reaction). But how? And will that make things any better? Is this going to become the new norm now? We humans have such a capacity to absorb and then adapt to change, good or bad. Are we supposed to absorb and then adapt to this type of thing?
I feel for the good Muslims, too. With every suicide bomber, it becomes harder and harder for the rest of us to maintain our objectivity. Let me say, there's been heavy arguments here over cultures and whatnot. It's an emotional argument, but a good one, which I'm sure plays out in bar conversations as well.
Right now the focus is on the victims and families of the victims of this horrific attack. But looking forward, what is the new normal? Surely we can't just sit around and wait for the next tragedy. Ideas need to start flowing more than ever on just how to revert this trend.
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Its amazing really how protective the Globalist/UN/Merkel/Lefty-TARD/TARD's/***KUMBAYA*** psychopath ~Muslim/black apologists~ are. "A 24 hour BLACKOUT on "rude" speech" FFS
you just couldn't make that shit up. How they care about the wrong shit! But the real shit they won't say a fucking word that might "offend" anyone!
FFS the word "final" now is a problem for Libtard SJWs. Let's call the police! Someone said "final solution"! Ooooh! Ooooh!
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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/manchest...ood-terrorism/
Concert bomber's neighborhood at crux of terror "network"?
The Guardian newspaper reported in February that no fewer than 16 people from a two-and-a-half mile radius in that area had either died fighting with jihadist groups, or been convicted of terrorism offenses. Six of those individuals came from within just one mile of the Moss Side neighborhood where another infamous resident lived.
Visit lovely Manchester see Old Trafford, Etihad Stadium, Beetham Tower, Manchester Civil Justice Centre, Midland Hotel, One Angel Square, Manchester Town Hall, and be sure to visit our Jihadi development community which has provided many many terrorists who are fighting for ISIS and killing many infidels. An announcement paid for by the Manchester Chamber of Commerce :shakehead:
Holy fuck guys, and you're going to tell me "Well there's really no problem if not for you bigot xenophobe Islamaphobe racists!"......no, no, there's ummmm England you got a bit of a problem here. Does the United States need to send over some friends and have an intervention for you or something? Holy fuck, 16 people from a 2 and a half mile radius.....but hey #notALLmuslims it's just a good amount from THAT specific neighborhood. Fucking hell guys, I mean does that not worry anyone? It would fucking bug me....
Person A: "you know we're at war"
Person B: "Who with?"
Person A: "oh a couple them blokes from down the road and ISIS"
That strikes nobody as shocking? Something in need of IMMEDIATE action???? Nothing?
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@El Kabong this is a small price to pay for diversity. #openorborders. #islamisthereligionofpeace
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Clearly a terrorist attack looking at the evidence. I think one should always realise that these things do not operate in a vacuum though. It's understandable that people are angry and looking for someone to blame, but the West has been at war with the Middle East for a decade and a half now and that should always be remembered. Wikileaks showed that we did this kind of thing to Iraqi's for fun. Tony Blair who started this mess is still walking free with nobody willing to do anything about it and that's where I think a new direction is desperately needed. Blair, Cameron, May, it is part of the same team that wants to take away your freedom and continue perpetual war. May has let the borders remain open, she was against Brexit, she supports taking away Internet freedom, she likely supports continued war. If you are against terrorism then you are against May. Corbyn on the other hand knows how to negotiate and see things from both sides. He is against perpetual war, he wants a free society, he brings hope. The policies that led to this were those of Blair and Cameron. Out with all of that.
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Miles they do shit to draw in the west such as genocide on Christians. Do you not see Isis goal has nothing to do with revenge but creating a world wide caliphate? U will have no grasp of terrorism until you understand that
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Hey, I've got a good idea!
Let's use 22 dead people as hillock upon which we can make cheap domestic political points. That would be classy and respectful, and then everybody would undoubtedly all suddenly agree with me.
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Our country has become weak.
This cunt was in Libya and Syria only weeks ago, was flying an ISIS flag from his bedroom window, his dad has extremist links and he was know to MI5 and other security services around the world as a threat yet we allow him to walk straight back into the country after his time in Syria.
Anyone and everyone on the Security services radar with extremist links , who has been radicalized or poses any threat to our country should be rounded up and jailed.
Those kids in Manchester would still be alive if we did this.
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Re: 22 dead in Manchester
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X
Hey, I've got a good idea!
Let's use 22 dead people as hillock upon which we can make cheap domestic political points. That would be classy and respectful, and then everybody would undoubtedly all suddenly agree with me.
Stfu go back to hunting gay porn to post. #muhdiversity
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smashup
Our country has become weak.
This cunt was in Libya and Syria only weeks ago, was flying an ISIS flag from his bedroom window, his dad has extremist links and he was know to MI5 and other security services around the world as a threat yet we allow him to walk straight back into the country after his time in Syria.
Anyone and everyone on the Security services radar with extremist links , who has been radicalized or poses any threat to our country should be rounded up and jailed.
Those kids in Manchester would still be alive if we did this.
THANK YOU!
The dipshit who did this cowardly attack was a known entity! Questions should be asked of MI5 and other organizations as to how THEY allowed this to happen. They dropped the ball big time!
Terrorists should be jailed as POWs and their families should be deported! If you raise up arms against the nation where you live you should have to pay the consequences.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7371266.html
That could be the future for England.....I for one, even though I do not reside in England I would HATE to see that happen. It's a real shame that Sweden has done that, giving benefits and housing to "former" ISIS fighters....it's the stuff of nightmares
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brocktonblockbust
England is soon Sweden.
The United States could end up that way too.
Obviously the Radical minded Islamists are mistaking the kindness of the west as weakness.
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Moving on....how many total arrests have been made in response to this bombing?
And yet again LEAKS and the New York fucking Times goes ahead and prints out forensic pictures of the crime.....the Deep State & Left Wing Media are just fucking worthless. They'd fuck up a free lunch.
A brother of the Manchester bomber knew of his plans and has been arrested in Libya, according to the country's security forces.
http://news.sky.com/story/manchester...-plan-10891708
Now I'm not sure how everyone else's family works, I'm rather close with my family, however if my brother knew I was going to do something that would ENDANGER 1 single person's life let alone if I was going to impliment a massacre on loads of people he'd tell the authorities and if they didn't stop me he would personally stop me from doing that......I would like to think that most everyone here has family like that but it makes me wonder about other families.....but hey neither I nor my brother are in ISIS so I guess there's your reason why I think this way.
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Re: 22 dead in Manchester
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El Kabong
Moving on....how many total arrests have been made in response to this bombing?
And yet again
LEAKS and the New York fucking Times goes ahead and prints out forensic pictures of the crime.....the Deep State & Left Wing Media are just fucking worthless. They'd fuck up a free lunch.
A brother of the Manchester bomber knew of his plans and has been arrested in Libya, according to the country's security forces.
http://news.sky.com/story/manchester...-plan-10891708
Now I'm not sure how everyone else's family works, I'm rather close with my family, however if my brother knew I was going to do something that would ENDANGER 1 single person's life let alone if I was going to impliment a massacre on loads of people he'd tell the authorities and if they didn't stop me he would personally stop me from doing that......I would like to think that most everyone here has family like that but it makes me wonder about other families.....but hey neither I nor my brother are in ISIS so I guess there's your reason why I think this way.
Have you seen the video of the dudes dad defending him, needs a bullet in the head he does
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Re: 22 dead in Manchester
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Batman
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El Kabong
Moving on....how many total arrests have been made in response to this bombing?
And yet again
LEAKS and the New York fucking Times goes ahead and prints out forensic pictures of the crime.....the Deep State & Left Wing Media are just fucking worthless. They'd fuck up a free lunch.
A brother of the Manchester bomber knew of his plans and has been arrested in Libya, according to the country's security forces.
http://news.sky.com/story/manchester...-plan-10891708
Now I'm not sure how everyone else's family works, I'm rather close with my family, however if my brother knew I was going to do something that would ENDANGER 1 single person's life let alone if I was going to impliment a massacre on loads of people he'd tell the authorities and if they didn't stop me he would personally stop me from doing that......I would like to think that most everyone here has family like that but it makes me wonder about other families.....but hey neither I nor my brother are in ISIS so I guess there's your reason why I think this way.
Have you seen the video of the dudes dad defending him, needs a bullet in the head he does
I have not seen that, I am not sure I want to see that....terrible terrible times and for what?
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Re: 19 dead in Manchester
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El Kabong
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Spicoli
Be irked man. You're entitled and its a free country. Still. Oh and trust me, they do get moved and sometimes just flat deleted. You've made it a point to point those out also. Save that victim card Lyle you know you've got more roots and rope here than most. You are the last to walk on egg shells and that's not what it's about, even the simplest even well intentioned thread needs to turn into a spammed up redundant click bate fest trying to drive a political point, conspiracy or shit radio show home. This began as a decent thread, posters immediately impacted..now we're here. Same topic, multiple threads.
I'm not seeking special treatment and I'm not playing the victim card, I just want to understand what is and isn't acceptable because obviously the
"Anything & everything goes" Off Topic decree is a misnomer or else people wouldn't be getting so touchy about what is posted.
Terrorist attacks are aggravating....tragic, yes every single fucking time it's a tragedy when someone does something like what happened in Manchester, please I am sorry, excuse me if I or anyone else feels a bit frustrated about these goings on. I had wished and hoped and prayed that 9/11 was the first and last of it....apparently not. Now if people get to talking about how the problem could be solved or mitigated or lessened and they disagree should that not be allowed? Is this not the place? If not, then where? If all you want this thread to be is a #thoughtsandprayerswithManchester #Manchesterstrong kind of thread then let me know I'll back out of this thread and start a different one altogether.....would a 'The Latest Terrorist Attack' thread in the super secret section of the forum be better? If so just let me know and I'll confine my comments re terrorist attacks to that single thread. All you have to do is say "Yes, I would appreciate that" and I'd do it.
Same topic multiple threads happens on the main board too....again, YOU are a Mod, YOU have the power to merge, delete, move threads....so why are you complaining? I certainly can't do any of those things and if I'm in one thread and someone gives me shit in another thread, then by God I'll answer it because communication between posters is the reason for the site to begin with. I'm not made at you, I'm just confused....if you just want to complain then complain, by all means, but, you actually have the ability to change things so I see your complaints as unnecessary.
My man at times if you were anymore condescending you'd set a record. Why are you acting so oppressed. I made a statement and I don't care if the name is blue, red or Pokka fookin dot that's what I'm here to do. Mod or not mod that's what we do but you immediately you see fit to tell me my abilities and read me rules when I said prior that's not what it's about? Nothing was put to you as a directive, you weren't shackled, muzzled or messaged in such manner so stop complaining yourself as to being told what's "acceptable and not acceptable". That didn't happen. I believe the words were "tired..longwinded..shit" in describing the repeated muslim rants and default posting of some hack media clips right off the bat. Ffs your first word on this one was a cartoon. We'll agree this murdering of innocents should never happen, cannot be allowed to happen but is a hellish shit reality today that needs immediate answers and the right heads to roll as a consequence. This has indeed run far off topic.
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Re: 22 dead in Manchester
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X
Hey, I've got a good idea!
Let's use 22 dead people as hillock upon which we can make cheap domestic political points. That would be classy and respectful, and then everybody would undoubtedly all suddenly agree with me.
It's not a cheap political point to argue that things have gone horribly wrong and it is time for a change. Blair, Cameron and May have a lot in common and it would probably be good for everybody to give another option a try. Nobody wants to see people blown up in the West or the Middle East, the two are connected and it seems only Jeremy Corbyn is willing to raise this point. Ordinary people know it is true, but there is an agenda on the right to ignore it. They benefit from the terrorism, the wars and the loss of domestic freedoms. It is not a cheap political point, it is likely the crux of freedom in the West and peace in the world. The terrorist attack, the Tory plan to 'clean up the Internent', and cosy relations with regimes like Saudi Arabia, all allign far too closely for the liking of any sensible person and yet you have gullible people cheering it on having had their emotions ramped up by what has happened. The Tories are the ones using terrorism for political gain and all I suggest is that people see through it and give peace a chance.
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5,000 soldiers on the streets having cut 20,000 police officers. The Tories have no idea what they are doing and to be simultaneously working with regimes that promote terrorism. Well, as Brock would say 'You couldn't make this shit up'.
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All naturalized Muslims need to go thru a retroactive EXTREME VETTING and all applying Muslims need to be ***SHUT THE FUCK OUT OF THE WEST***---
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Manchester attack: Hunt for possible 2nd bomb under way - Fox News
https://apple.news/A8YzDjY1QRgCf4rtCxM8o6A
It's the narrative
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I'm gunna go on a rant tomorrow, it's not against Isis it's not against Muslims I don't know who it is against but I'm watching sommet on telly now and I'm getting fed up of it, not going to go into it now cuz I'm 10 cans deep and I can't articulate what I want to say
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Batman
I'm gunna go on a rant tomorrow, it's not against Isis it's not against Muslims I don't know who it is against but I'm watching sommet on telly now and I'm getting fed up of it, not going to go into it now cuz I'm 10 cans deep and I can't articulate what I want to say
Watch the boxing on channel 5
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Batman
I'm gunna go on a rant tomorrow, it's not against Isis it's not against Muslims I don't know who it is against but I'm watching sommet on telly now and I'm getting fed up of it, not going to go into it now cuz I'm 10 cans deep and I can't articulate what I want to say
Watch the boxing on channel 5
your country with it's open door policy and it's Muslim apologist policy and it's paranoia of offending people allowed this guy's father to immigrate to England from Libya even though he was fighting for Al-Qaeda.... and your country's open door policy allowed him and his son to travel back and forth for training terrorist training and bomb-making training to Syria and back to Libya and then return to Great Britain to pull off this horrible attack. That is the only embarrassment here and it is caring more about not offending people then doing the right thing to protect people period and people want to talk about Muslim taxi drivers who helped out oh wow I am so blown away with that generosity wow
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brocktonblockbust
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Batman
I'm gunna go on a rant tomorrow, it's not against Isis it's not against Muslims I don't know who it is against but I'm watching sommet on telly now and I'm getting fed up of it, not going to go into it now cuz I'm 10 cans deep and I can't articulate what I want to say
Watch the boxing on channel 5
your country with it's open door policy and it's Muslim apologist policy and it's paranoia of offending people allowed this guy's father to immigrate to England from Libya even though he was fighting for Al-Qaeda.... and your country's open door policy allowed him and his son to travel back and forth for training terrorist training and bomb-making training to Syria and back to Libya and then return to Great Britain to pull off this horrible attack. That is the only embarrassment here and it is caring more about not offending people then doing the right thing to protect people period and people want to talk about Muslim taxi drivers who helped out oh wow I am so blown away with that generosity wow
You cannot babysit everyone in a society. If that was the case they would likely take away your dummy. How about setting a good example to the world through a decent foreign policy that doesn't involve destroying entire regions and offering ways for people to integrate better. The UK is so bad at doing that that a lot of Brits feel alienated too. It makes them do things like turn to the right and it makes angry young Muslims occasionally turn to extremism too. It's about time the extremists on both sides were shut down with a little bit of common sense. Dialogue is the way forwards. It is something that threatens you as you thrive on conflict and chaos.
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Gandalf
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brocktonblockbust
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Master
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Batman
I'm gunna go on a rant tomorrow, it's not against Isis it's not against Muslims I don't know who it is against but I'm watching sommet on telly now and I'm getting fed up of it, not going to go into it now cuz I'm 10 cans deep and I can't articulate what I want to say
Watch the boxing on channel 5
your country with it's open door policy and it's Muslim apologist policy and it's paranoia of offending people allowed this guy's father to immigrate to England from Libya even though he was fighting for Al-Qaeda.... and your country's open door policy allowed him and his son to travel back and forth for training terrorist training and bomb-making training to Syria and back to Libya and then return to Great Britain to pull off this horrible attack. That is the only embarrassment here and it is caring more about not offending people then doing the right thing to protect people period and people want to talk about Muslim taxi drivers who helped out oh wow I am so blown away with that generosity wow
You cannot babysit everyone in a society. If that was the case they would likely take away your dummy. How about setting a good example to the world through a decent foreign policy that doesn't involve destroying entire regions and offering ways for people to integrate better. The UK is so bad at doing that that a lot of Brits feel alienated too. It makes them do things like turn to the right and it makes angry young Muslims occasionally turn to extremism too. It's about time the extremists on both sides were shut down with a little bit of common sense. Dialogue is the way forwards. It is something that threatens you as you thrive on conflict and chaos.
you idiot, its not babysitting, its EXTREME VETTING OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO ENTER YOUR COUNTRY.
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brocktonblockbust
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Gandalf
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brocktonblockbust
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
Batman
I'm gunna go on a rant tomorrow, it's not against Isis it's not against Muslims I don't know who it is against but I'm watching sommet on telly now and I'm getting fed up of it, not going to go into it now cuz I'm 10 cans deep and I can't articulate what I want to say
Watch the boxing on channel 5
your country with it's open door policy and it's Muslim apologist policy and it's paranoia of offending people allowed this guy's father to immigrate to England from Libya even though he was fighting for Al-Qaeda.... and your country's open door policy allowed him and his son to travel back and forth for training terrorist training and bomb-making training to Syria and back to Libya and then return to Great Britain to pull off this horrible attack. That is the only embarrassment here and it is caring more about not offending people then doing the right thing to protect people period and people want to talk about Muslim taxi drivers who helped out oh wow I am so blown away with that generosity wow
You cannot babysit everyone in a society. If that was the case they would likely take away your dummy. How about setting a good example to the world through a decent foreign policy that doesn't involve destroying entire regions and offering ways for people to integrate better. The UK is so bad at doing that that a lot of Brits feel alienated too. It makes them do things like turn to the right and it makes angry young Muslims occasionally turn to extremism too. It's about time the extremists on both sides were shut down with a little bit of common sense. Dialogue is the way forwards. It is something that threatens you as you thrive on conflict and chaos.
you idiot, its not babysitting, its EXTREME VETTING OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO ENTER YOUR COUNTRY.
Put your dummy back in! :D
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Gandalf
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brocktonblockbust
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Originally Posted by
Gandalf
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brocktonblockbust
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
Batman
I'm gunna go on a rant tomorrow, it's not against Isis it's not against Muslims I don't know who it is against but I'm watching sommet on telly now and I'm getting fed up of it, not going to go into it now cuz I'm 10 cans deep and I can't articulate what I want to say
Watch the boxing on channel 5
your country with it's open door policy and it's Muslim apologist policy and it's paranoia of offending people allowed this guy's father to immigrate to England from Libya even though he was fighting for Al-Qaeda.... and your country's open door policy allowed him and his son to travel back and forth for training terrorist training and bomb-making training to Syria and back to Libya and then return to Great Britain to pull off this horrible attack. That is the only embarrassment here and it is caring more about not offending people then doing the right thing to protect people period and people want to talk about Muslim taxi drivers who helped out oh wow I am so blown away with that generosity wow
You cannot babysit everyone in a society. If that was the case they would likely take away your dummy. How about setting a good example to the world through a decent foreign policy that doesn't involve destroying entire regions and offering ways for people to integrate better. The UK is so bad at doing that that a lot of Brits feel alienated too. It makes them do things like turn to the right and it makes angry young Muslims occasionally turn to extremism too. It's about time the extremists on both sides were shut down with a little bit of common sense. Dialogue is the way forwards. It is something that threatens you as you thrive on conflict and chaos.
you idiot, its not babysitting, its EXTREME VETTING OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO ENTER YOUR COUNTRY.
Put your dummy back in! :D
You and me should be such dummies to make a few billion dollars and get elected President of the most powerful country on earth. all that with the entire (and I mean ENTIRE) mainstream media against you 24/7 ----- that ain't no dummy.
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I think you have read too much into my post. :D
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Gandalf
I think you have read too much into my post. :D
I need to read too much into it as it contained nothing on its own. :lickish:
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Well I'm not too sure what my rant was going to be about last night, obviously whatever it was it wasn't boiling my piss as much as I first thought
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brocktonblockbust
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Batman
I'm gunna go on a rant tomorrow, it's not against Isis it's not against Muslims I don't know who it is against but I'm watching sommet on telly now and I'm getting fed up of it, not going to go into it now cuz I'm 10 cans deep and I can't articulate what I want to say
Watch the boxing on channel 5
your country with it's open door policy and it's Muslim apologist policy and it's paranoia of offending people allowed this guy's father to immigrate to England from Libya even though he was fighting for Al-Qaeda.... and your country's open door policy allowed him and his son to travel back and forth for training terrorist training and bomb-making training to Syria and back to Libya and then return to Great Britain to pull off this horrible attack. That is the only embarrassment here and it is caring more about not offending people then doing the right thing to protect people period and people want to talk about Muslim taxi drivers who helped out oh wow I am so blown away with that generosity wow
And that is exactly how the majority of British people feel.What the fuck are our government doing allowing globally known jihadists who they know have recently been in Libya and Syria to freely come in and out of our country.Lighting candles, reading poems, donating money and changing your Facebook profile pic to " I love Manchester" will do fuck all to stop the next bombing.Its as simple as rounding them cunts up and jailing or deporting them.If we had done those kids would still be alive.We need a leader in the UK, someone with the balls who will protect their own citizens first and not these spineless clowns who currently do.Id take someone like Trump or Putin over our current PM all day long.
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I'm gunna go on a rant tomorrow, it's not against Isis it's not against Muslims I don't know who it is against but I'm watching sommet on telly now and I'm getting fed up of it, not going to go into it now cuz I'm 10 cans deep and I can't articulate what I want to say
Watch the boxing on channel 5
your country with it's open door policy and it's Muslim apologist policy and it's paranoia of offending people allowed this guy's father to immigrate to England from Libya even though he was fighting for Al-Qaeda.... and your country's open door policy allowed him and his son to travel back and forth for training terrorist training and bomb-making training to Syria and back to Libya and then return to Great Britain to pull off this horrible attack. That is the only embarrassment here and it is caring more about not offending people then doing the right thing to protect people period and people want to talk about Muslim taxi drivers who helped out oh wow I am so blown away with that generosity wow
And that is exactly how the majority of British people feel.
What the fuck are our government doing allowing globally known jihadists who they know have recently been in Libya and Syria to freely come in and out of our country.
Lighting candles, reading poems, donating money and changing your Facebook profile pic to " I love Manchester" will do fuck all to stop the next bombing.
Its as simple as rounding them cunts up and jailing or deporting them.
If we had done those kids would still be alive.
We need a leader in the UK, someone with the balls who will protect their own citizens first and not these spineless clowns who currently do.
Id take someone like Trump or Putin over our current PM all day long.
There is a direct line between the NATO operation in Benghazi and Al Qaeda rebels in Syria. Arms and Intelligence. So while you may think that somebody like Trump would make things better the truth is he is knee deep in it with the Saudis too. When you have Imams chucking people out of mosques and Muslims reporting these people to the authorities then you have to question why nothing has been done. Unfortunately the exact supposedly strong type right wing leaders that people think would make Britain safer, are the same ones cutting the security budget, and putting not offending the House of Saud above the safety of British citizens.
However left wing, soft, naive or supposedly too empathetic people are, it is not them that people's anger should be turned on. That is the same old tired tirade that Brockton the ex-Muslim holier than thou hate preacher is suggesting people join him on, but it is nothing but a distraction. The answers to stopping these horrific things happening are nothing to do with being afraid of offending Muslims in Britain. It is all to do with being afraid of jeopardizing huge arms deals abroad.
We have no business bombing the middle east. We most certainly should not be selling arms to countries in the region or training troops like we do. Yes of course we should have a strict border policy that vets and arrests terrorists and terrorist sympathizers, but the right wing government we have, cuts security and border guard numbers and has for years. They are to blame. So sweeping have the police cuts been that now we are having to deploy the army on British streets.
The bombing in Manchester targeted young people and children so if even just one of those victims injured in hospital or the kids of Manchester are comforted by people lighting a candle or showing solidarity than that is a good thing. I know that you are not mocking that, just the faux sentimental pointless things like people changing their facebook profile pics etc and the idea that standing together and being a pacifist is enough to stop these animals. The problem I have with some of the posts in this thread, and others in response to the recent Westminster attack, are the suggestion that the British principle of solidarity and standing together in the face of adversity, something that saw us survive countless bombing from the Luftwaffe to the IRA, is somehow a sign of weakness, a capitulation. It is incredibly offensive to be lectured by people from a country that puts sensationalizing leaked evidence ahead of national security and the same people who actually repeatedly posted it here, on being soft on terrorism.
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it is nothing but a distraction. The answers to stopping these horrific things happening are nothing to do with being afraid of offending Muslims in Britain. .
the only distraction here is refusing to admit here that your country with it's open door policy and it's Muslim apologist policy and it's paranoia of offending people allowed this guy's father to immigrate to England from Libya even though he was fighting for Al-Qaeda.... and your country's open door policy allowed him and his son to travel back and forth for training terrorist training and bomb-making training to Syria and back to Libya and then return to Great Britain to pull off this horrible attack. That is the only embarrassment here and it is you and people like you who care more about not offending people then doing the right thing to protect people period and you want to talk about Muslim taxi drivers who helped out oh wow I am so blown away with that generosity wow
