Colin Kaepernick and the absurdity of the NFL

So the entire league (bar Army Ranger and veteran of 1,2...3 tours in Afghanistan Alejandro Villanueva) doing the #TakeTheKnee :rolleyes: protest kind of takes the wind out of the sails for the argument that Colin Kaepernick isn't playing in the NFL because he's black or because he started the whole taking a knee deal.


But hey the far lefties like David 'Chicken Vagina Lips' Corn of Mother Jones have grabbed on to this protest and are now saying "The kneel will be the sign of the resistance to Trump".......sooooo you're kneeling in front of a leader.......kneeling, like he's a king? Gee that'll show him


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According to the WashPost database, 721 fatal police shootings so far in 2017; 9 involved unarmed black males..


https://media.tenor.com/images/91a35...51fd/tenor.gif



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The Baltimore Ravens who #TakeTheKnee for the 'National Anthem' stood in reverence for 'God Save The Queen'.....who conducted part of that Transatlantic Slave trade again???? Ummmm could it have been ENGLAND?

‘Sunday Night Football’ Ratings Down Again On Day Of Player Protests
http://deadline.com/2017/09/redskins...bc-1202176141/

In metered market numbers, the primetime matchup that saw the Washington Redskins beat the Oakland Raiders 27-10 snared an 11.6/20, the worst SNF has performed this season so far. It’s an 8% dip from the early numbers of last week’s game, Atlanta’s 34-23 win over Green Bay. Amid cheers and boos from fans at FedEx Field in Maryland last night, the third week of the SNF season declined 10% from early numbers of the comparable game of last year on September 25, 2016.



Well.......well.....................well

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKlpuVSUIAEWu08.jpg:large


And imagine my shock

I did not know what this thread was about but now it has come to my attention I believe these footballers are right to protest against the poor treatment/injustice/oppression that certain people face.

Good for them that they are prepared to make a stand when it would be far easier to stay quiet.

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I did not know what this thread was about but now it has come to my attention I believe these footballers are right to protest against the poor treatment/injustice/oppression that certain people face.

Good for them that they are prepared to make a stand when it would be far easier to stay quiet.

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Yes yes far better to protest the National Anthem (something which brings us ALL together as citizens in this nation) than ooooh I don't know address the issues where they are.


So cops have a raging murder boner for young black kids eh?

Total TOTAL number of fatal police involved shootings (rightly or wrongly) all creeds, races, ages, sexes, etc NATIONWIDE in the following years
2015: 991
2016: 963
2017 (to June 30th): 492

and here are the murders in Chicago (only Chicago, only for Blacks) for those same years (ONLY CHICAGO....ONLY 1 CITY!!!!)
2015: 401
2016: 626
2017(so far): 395




Where's the kneeling for those people? Where's the help? Where's the guidance? Where's the love for them? Well I guess it doesn't exist if there's no badge :-X

A divisive president does not help the situation either.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZHp4JLWjNw



......yyyyyyyeah if only :rolleyes:

celebrity racism, feminism, facism, Bagism, Shagism, Dragism, Madism, Ragism, Tagism, This-ism, that-ism, is-m, is-m, is-m

I blame social media for all this shit I really do.

Ben Roethlisberger Regrets Steelers Boycotting Anthem; Trump Supports Fan Boos
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...anthem-1042616



Perhaps just PERHAPS there's a time and a way to protest which doesn't piss off people who might actually support what you're attempting to do. I personally do not want unarmed citizens of any color gunned down by rogue cops, and I don't want rogue cops....so in THAT way I am agreeing with Colin Kaepernick and everybody kneeling, HOWEVER, when you kneel for the 'National Anthem' you're not kneeling during a time where the Police (or rogue cops) are being celebrated, you're kneeling at a time where AMERICA (and our freedom and luxury to hold such a game at such a high level) is being honored ergo people are pissed the fuck off that crybaby multimillionaires are shitting on the country from their fucking ivory towers instead of directly addressing an issue they see as extremely important.


Protest the National Anthem at your own peril because the large majority of people even those kneeling really do love this country and they want it to get better every day.....National Anthem protests are divisive. The President was inarticulate and a bit blunt in trying to get folks to understand that it's not HIM it's the office that is respected.....don't respect the man, fine, respect the office.

‘Pushed to my limit’: Stadium worker quits after Bills protest anthem
http://nypost.com/2017/09/25/pushed-...rotest-anthem/


“I was [finally] pushed to my limit today and had to quit,” Nikischer posted on Facebook in response to the Bills’ protest, a show of defiance against President Trump’s suggestion that NFL players who kneel during the national anthem to protest racial inequality should be fired. “I [cannot] work in a place where [multimillionaires] cry that they are oppressed.”....



“I will never watch an NFL football game again until this ends.”



:-X

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R5hj-8b8oY

.....sad

good to know

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That's what I was thinking

This whole situation has become pretty damn silly on all fronts. I'm honestly surprised that so many people have so much time to make what otherwise unknown people do and think such a preoccupation. I think it's a giant shiny object. Someone does not salute a flag I really do not care. It does nothing to change my belief, lessen my pride or infringe on my personal life. If anything it actually reinforces it for me.

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This whole situation has become pretty damn silly on all fronts. I'm honestly surprised that so many people have so much time to make what otherwise unknown people do and think such a preoccupation. I think it's a giant shiny object. Someone does not salute a flag I really do not care. It does nothing to change my belief, lessen my pride or infringe on my personal life. If anything it actually reinforces it for me.

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That's just so wrong and noncommittal it's scary

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This whole situation has become pretty damn silly on all fronts. I'm honestly surprised that so many people have so much time to make what otherwise unknown people do and think such a preoccupation. I think it's a giant shiny object. Someone does not salute a flag I really do not care. It does nothing to change my belief, lessen my pride or infringe on my personal life. If anything it actually reinforces it for me.

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That's just so wrong and noncommittal it's scary

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I support Spicoli on this, pure freedom means pure freedom, which is what America is anyway, right?

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This whole situation has become pretty damn silly on all fronts. I'm honestly surprised that so many people have so much time to make what otherwise unknown people do and think such a preoccupation. I think it's a giant shiny object. Someone does not salute a flag I really do not care. It does nothing to change my belief, lessen my pride or infringe on my personal life. If anything it actually reinforces it for me.

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That's just so wrong and noncommittal it's scary

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I support Spicoli on this, pure freedom means pure freedom, which is what America is anyway, right?

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Yeah I guess you are right..... sad

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This whole situation has become pretty damn silly on all fronts. I'm honestly surprised that so many people have so much time to make what otherwise unknown people do and think such a preoccupation. I think it's a giant shiny object. Someone does not salute a flag I really do not care. It does nothing to change my belief, lessen my pride or infringe on my personal life. If anything it actually reinforces it for me.

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This whole situation has become pretty damn silly on all fronts. I'm honestly surprised that so many people have so much time to make what otherwise unknown people do and think such a preoccupation. I think it's a giant shiny object. Someone does not salute a flag I really do not care. It does nothing to change my belief, lessen my pride or infringe on my personal life. If anything it actually reinforces it for me.

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https://i.imgur.com/2xVnR1N.jpg ;D

I am actually split down the middle on this===== fuck those melodramatic spoiled pampered ,muti-millionaire athletes who are protesting about FUCK ALL JACK SHIT FANTASY POLITICALLY-DRIVEN BULLSHIT....................

they really SHOULD be fired, I cannot spout off political bullshit at my job, in your office, at your work, AND NEITHER SHOULD THESE ROIDED OUT PIECES OF SHIT BE ABLE TO DO SO.

on the other hand, fuck it, you cannot force someone to stand for a song or a flag FFS.

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I am actually split down the middle on this===== fuck those melodramatic spoiled pampered ,muti-millionaire athletes who are protesting about FUCK ALL JACK SHIT FANTASY POLITICALLY-DRIVEN BULLSHIT....................

they really SHOULD be fired, I cannot spout off political bullshit at my job, in your office, at your work, AND NEITHER SHOULD THESE ROIDED OUT PIECES OF SHIT BE ABLE TO DO SO.

on the other hand, fuck it, you cannot force someone to stand for a song or a flag FFS.

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Since the us government, aka the people built all these super domes for these idiots they can at least pretend to be grateful

If someone doesn't want to stand for an anthem then good on them. You are born into a system and have little say in how it is set up or forced upon you. The least you can do is defy in all the little ways you can. Otherwise, you are dead already. I wince whenever Andy Murray plays at Wimbledon in front of the Royals, but then again I bet he didn't wince about being knighted. Some people just don't have the balls to be punk. It's a good thing to say 'No' once in a while. Stick to your values and call out injustice. 'I will not play tennis in front of these entitled toffs and anyone in banking can leave right now too. Right, who is on for tennis?'

Lots of British people don't understand what a big deal the flag is to our US cousins.

We don't have a culture of saluting our flag, or treating it as anything other than a piece of cloth. Equally, we don't have a pledge of allegiance or a wholesale attitude of standing for the anthem or placing hands on heart when it's on etc.

We do pick up on when politicians etc don't mumble long to our anthem, and they do cop some criticism but not as much as if they were Americans.

Maybe that's why this whole story isn't a big a deal over here.

We speak the same language, nearly, but there are some big cultural differences between Brits and Americans.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...st-nfl-refunds

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If someone doesn't want to stand for an anthem then good on them. You are born into a system and have little say in how it is set up or forced upon you. The least you can do is defy in all the little ways you can. Otherwise, you are dead already. I wince whenever Andy Murray plays at Wimbledon in front of the Royals, but then again I bet he didn't wince about being knighted. Some people just don't have the balls to be punk. It's a good thing to say 'No' once in a while. Stick to your values and call out injustice. 'I will not play tennis in front of these entitled toffs and anyone in banking can leave right now too. Right, who is on for tennis?'

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Well miles, it USED to be the case that before a game/match/fight was started, before I go out and play for my team and do all I can to be you and your team or before I cheer for my side and before you cheer for your side, we all take time to show some respect to our nation and our servicemen and women who have allowed us the privilege of holding such an event. Also it brought us together in UNITY before the game....but you know Donald Trump is the divisive one :rolleyes:

People don't disagree or are unfeeling towards the plight of people who grow up in rough neighborhoods or who are harassed by the police and we don't like bad cops, none of us do....EVERYONE would support this cause if Colin Kaepernick didn't decide to shit on the whole of America (which FYI the majority of people still love) then I'm sure he'd actually have some support instead of being an outcast.

The people protesting are multimillionaires. The people protesting are paid millions of dollars to PLAY A GAME. The people protesting went to college for FREE. The people protesting typically have about an 8th grade education DESPITE going to college for FREE. They're protesting in stadiums funded by the tax payer! They're protesting the police when police are security for their games! And the NFL which is called "The No Fun league" could stomp this out if it wanted to...IF IT WANTED TO.....they aren't, they're playing politics and their making their own bed, look at the ratings, look at the disinterest.


People watch sports to get away from politics because sports is something we can all debate on another level, people who disagree politically can agree on sports. People who agree politically can disagree on sports. It's a needed escape....but lefties want to make EVERYTHING and I do mean EVERYTHING political so here we go, buckle up because it's going to be a bumpy ride...and why?


Hillary, a lying, cheating, dishonorable, greedy, horrible candidate and person lost an election she attempted to rig, that's the long and short of all the hysteria around this Presidency and Donald Trump is taking full advantage of it.

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Lots of British people don't understand what a big deal the flag is to our US cousins.

We don't have a culture of saluting our flag, or treating it as anything other than a piece of cloth. Equally, we don't have a pledge of allegiance or a wholesale attitude of standing for the anthem or placing hands on heart when it's on etc.

We do pick up on when politicians etc don't mumble long to our anthem, and they do cop some criticism but not as much as if they were Americans.

Maybe that's why this whole story isn't a big a deal over here.

We speak the same language, nearly, but there are some big cultural differences between Brits and Americans.

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Can Brits even fly their flag?

'Really British' shop selling UK memorabilia accused of racism
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...ccused-racism/


Look at how Angela Merkel handles being handed her own country's flag....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi0dffrSmPI


That's fucking despicable....yeah I'm sure Germans trust her with THEIR country :vd:

Starts off with:

"Kneeling is quiet protest"

ends up with:

White Athletes Still Standing For The Anthem Are Standing For White Supremacy
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0f2df5e83afcd



Kind of like the lefties don't want people to have any will of their own.....also bake me that cake!

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If someone doesn't want to stand for an anthem then good on them. You are born into a system and have little say in how it is set up or forced upon you. The least you can do is defy in all the little ways you can. Otherwise, you are dead already. I wince whenever Andy Murray plays at Wimbledon in front of the Royals, but then again I bet he didn't wince about being knighted. Some people just don't have the balls to be punk. It's a good thing to say 'No' once in a while. Stick to your values and call out injustice. 'I will not play tennis in front of these entitled toffs and anyone in banking can leave right now too. Right, who is on for tennis?'

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Well miles, it USED to be the case that before a game/match/fight was started, before I go out and play for my team and do all I can to be you and your team or before I cheer for my side and before you cheer for your side, we all take time to show some respect to our nation and our servicemen and women who have allowed us the privilege of holding such an event. Also it brought us together in UNITY before the game....but you know Donald Trump is the divisive one :rolleyes:

People don't disagree or are unfeeling towards the plight of people who grow up in rough neighborhoods or who are harassed by the police and we don't like bad cops, none of us do....EVERYONE would support this cause if Colin Kaepernick didn't decide to shit on the whole of America (which FYI the majority of people still love) then I'm sure he'd actually have some support instead of being an outcast.

The people protesting are multimillionaires. The people protesting are paid millions of dollars to PLAY A GAME. The people protesting went to college for FREE. The people protesting typically have about an 8th grade education DESPITE going to college for FREE. They're protesting in stadiums funded by the tax payer! They're protesting the police when police are security for their games! And the NFL which is called "The No Fun league" could stomp this out if it wanted to...IF IT WANTED TO.....they aren't, they're playing politics and their making their own bed, look at the ratings, look at the disinterest.


People watch sports to get away from politics because sports is something we can all debate on another level, people who disagree politically can agree on sports. People who agree politically can disagree on sports. It's a needed escape....but lefties want to make EVERYTHING and I do mean EVERYTHING political so here we go, buckle up because it's going to be a bumpy ride...and why?


Hillary, a lying, cheating, dishonorable, greedy, horrible candidate and person lost an election she attempted to rig, that's the long and short of all the hysteria around this Presidency and Donald Trump is taking full advantage of it.

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Lots of British people don't understand what a big deal the flag is to our US cousins.

We don't have a culture of saluting our flag, or treating it as anything other than a piece of cloth. Equally, we don't have a pledge of allegiance or a wholesale attitude of standing for the anthem or placing hands on heart when it's on etc.

We do pick up on when politicians etc don't mumble long to our anthem, and they do cop some criticism but not as much as if they were Americans.

Maybe that's why this whole story isn't a big a deal over here.

We speak the same language, nearly, but there are some big cultural differences between Brits and Americans.

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Can Brits even fly their flag?

'Really British' shop selling UK memorabilia accused of racism
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...ccused-racism/


Look at how Angela Merkel handles being handed her own country's flag....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi0dffrSmPI


That's fucking despicable....yeah I'm sure Germans trust her with THEIR country :vd:

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No we are not allowed to fly the Union Jack here Lyle, It's been banned by the PC bogeyman which is why they have all been taken down and replaced by rainbow ones

Well there now Beanz has rectum-fied it.

https://www.thenewamerican.com/cultu...sts-for-nascar

https://www.nationaleconomicseditori...k-poison-pill/

That's racist

Reuters poll:

85% 'almost always' stand for the anthem.

74% place hand on heart.

58% say pro athletes should be *required* to stand.


aaaaaaaaand here's the BEST part ;D


http://static.politifact.com.s3.amaz...a_text_NFL.jpg

It is nonsense. Even with the GGG/Canelo fight you have anthems and not only the anthems but the US anthem too. So, we now have to have an anthem for the place where the robbery is about to be carried out? Why have an anthem for fighters anyway? As a fighter I would not be fighting for Queen and country either. What about my non-British supportes like Walrus? No anthems. You know how some fighters are awkward over nonsense like coming out first? Well, it is about time a fighter refused to bother with anthems before a fight. It is cheap nonsense designed to prey upon primitive feelings. When I hear the British anthem I think of Tories, food bands and hedge funders. I won't celebrate that. Good on rich people deciding that they have a conscience after all.

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It is nonsense. Even with the GGG/Canelo fight you have anthems and not only the anthems but the US anthem too. So, we now have to have an anthem for the place where the robbery is about to be carried out? Why have an anthem for fighters anyway? As a fighter I would not be fighting for Queen and country either. What about my non-British supportes like Walrus? No anthems. You know how some fighters are awkward over nonsense like coming out first? Well, it is about time a fighter refused to bother with anthems before a fight. It is cheap nonsense designed to prey upon primitive feelings. When I hear the British anthem I think of Tories, food bands and hedge funders. I won't celebrate that. Good on rich people deciding that they have a conscience after all.

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@ghandi how is the South Korean anthem? Do they thank America in it.

I wouldn't know. I have little time for anthems unless they are sung by an Indie Rock God.

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I would rather have woody Guthries this land is your land as our anthem
http://tinyurl.com/y92rwlh3

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wxiMrvDbq3s