I wonder how many sales the fight got.Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman
Fury v Parker went up to 15 quid if you bought it on the night, it was only a tenner if you bought it before handQuote:
Originally Posted by GaMo
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I wonder how many sales the fight got.Quote:
Originally Posted by BatmanFury v Parker went up to 15 quid if you bought it on the night, it was only a tenner if you bought it before handQuote:
Originally Posted by GaMo
Thankfully I didn’t buy itQuote:
Originally Posted by BatmanFury v Parker went up to 15 quid if you bought it on the night, it was only a tenner if you bought it before handQuote:
Originally Posted by GaMo
but why didn't you buy it? you said it was a worthwhile PPV event between2 undefeated young heavyweights? or was you just trolololingQuote:
Originally Posted by GaMoThankfully I didn’t buy itQuote:
Originally Posted by BatmanFury v Parker went up to 15 quid if you bought it on the night, it was only a tenner if you bought it before handQuote:
Originally Posted by GaMo
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Originally Posted by Batmanbut why didn't you buy it? you said it was a worthwhile PPV event between2 undefeated young heavyweights? or was you just trolololingQuote:
Originally Posted by GaMoThankfully I didn’t buy itQuote:
Originally Posted by BatmanFury v Parker went up to 15 quid if you bought it on the night, it was only a tenner if you bought it before handQuote:
Originally Posted by GaMo
No interest in Parker or Fury. I still haven’t bothered watching it and I’m sure I could find it for free now. I said Parker by decision (it was predictable) is pay £10 for Wilder or AJ but not Parker or Fury (Tyson included)
Dont worry yourselves lads, fight ain't happening.
The fat Cuban has failed a drugs test
Cunt
Cuban can appeal the Vada ruling but November clash with American WBC champ is now on hold
HEAVYWEIGHT contender Luis Ortiz has failed a drug test.
WBC chief Mauricio Sulaiman confirmed that the Cuban had tested positive for a banned substance by Vada.
Ortiz, nicknamed King Kong, had been scheduled to fight American champ Deontay Wilder in Brooklyn, New York, on November 4.
He was also the No 1 contender for Anthony Joshua’s WBA title.
Ortiz can appeal the ban.
He was previously banned for nine months for testing positive for a banned substance in 2014.
Batman you are right. Ortiz is a cunt for doing this again. Povetkin and now him, Wilder just gets luckier everyday.
Ah the classic high blood pressure tablets defence. If he's banned that's career over.
Hopefully Wilder (kinda feeling sorry for the fucker now) doesnt get a stiff to knock over. Promote Stivern. Get Whyte in with Breazeale. Sorted.
Anyone really surprised? Wilder must be one scary dude to get all these guys trying to cheat.
Well it's hardly surprising that ancient old bastard is on pensioners medicine. Bit harsh...
He's probably been unknowingly gulping down those Desperate Dan supercows too.
Taking a dig at the clean guy, classy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Boxing fans have lost the plot
Unclench and stop taking everything so seriously otherwise you will get high blood pressure. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonTaking a dig at the clean guy, classy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Boxing fans have lost the plot
I feel bad for wilder. This fight was really supposed to legitimize him. The povetkin fight was supposed to do the same thing. He just can’t catch a break.
Dillian Whyte tweets Wilder: No excuses now, I’ll take Ortiz’ place!
It hasn’t taken long for the news of Luis Ortiz’ failed drugs test to reach British heavyweight Dillian Whyte – and Whyte sees opportunity in the demise of the Cuban’s November 4 fight with Deontay Wilder.
Whyte, who has wanted and called out for a shot at Wilder and his WBC crown for some time, took to his twitter account a couple of hours ago, basically writing how Wilder must now face him instead of Ortiz.
“No excuses now, I’ll take Ortiz’ place,” wrote Whyte, adding the words, “Eddie Hearn make this fight now.”
If Wilder is still in the mood to fight on November 4 and if no other opportunity to make use of the work he has put in in training camp arises, then why not Wilder vs. Whyte?
It would not be as big as Wilder against Ortiz, far from it, but as a short notice fight replacement, this one would certainly fit the bill.
Wilder has not boxed since back in February (and he had a seven months layoff due to injury before that bout – a KO win over Gerald Washington) and Whyte, who was pencilled in to fight on the October 28 Anthony Joshua-Kubrat Pulev card in Cardiff, does not have an opponent yet.
With five weeks to go until November 4, Whyte, presumably already in decent shape, would have just enough time to whip himself into world championship calibre shape.
Wilder may or may not express interest in facing Whyte, or anyone else, in November; as it would certainly be understandable if he were so disappointed he found it hard to get sufficiently motivated for anyone other than Ortiz (and Wilder was training to face a southpaw after all).
Wilder was oh, so looking forward to fighting Ortiz, beating him and then, as he put it himself at the official press conference (which Ortiz failed to attend, supposedly due to traffic problems) “getting my respect.”
Will Wilder feel a win over Whyte would get him much of anything? Again though, this fight would be better than no fight. Wilder must be given enough time to assess has options. But he has at least one to look at already.
Wilder v Whyte is actually a fight i would like to see... I hope Wilder takes the fight.
Pos Ortiz.
Ban that cunt for life.
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Originally Posted by KickMuck
Seriously what is it with everyone sucking of Whyte on here? The guy is fucking shit! He’s actually a British level bum.
I hope Wilder takes the fight, and although I'm not a fan of Wilder, I hope he fucking beats Whyte as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by KickMuck
In fact I'd go as far as to say Wilder SHOULD take the fight. He's in shape because he's already in camp, Whyte won't be in shape. Wilder will be at home, and in my humble opinion , Whyte ain't all that.
I've said it before, Whyte is gonna be remembered as a valiant loser........but a loser nonetheless.
This will enhance that rep. He'll be able to say, I got beat, but I took it at late notice, if I had a full camp I woulda beat him, blah,blah, fucking blah.
Personally feel Stiverne and Whyte are about same level. Might as well fulfill the mandatory. Stiverne was training for Brezeale anyway.
In all fairness it is perfectly set up to promote AJ v Wilder in the future.
Other than Klit the only person who has gave AJ a fight is Whyte.
Wilder beats the fat Cuban how many casuals take note? Not many
Wilder Ko's Whyte in 2 or 3 rounds (Just for an eg) how many casuals take note? A fucking hell of a lot
I think if Wilder wants money then he should be bending over backwarď to get Whyte in the ring
To be fair what other top contender has AJ fought outside of Wlad? Do casuals even know who Whyte or Ortiz are? Sure if Wilder beats Whyte it gives him some exposure among Brits, beating Ortiz would give him credibility among hardcore fans. Whyte arguably lost to Chisora. Wilder could quite easily do his mandatory, then do a uni with Parker. Bringing 2 belts to the bargaining table for an AJ clash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman
After the first suspension I'd be careful of even taking cold medicine leading into a fight and Ortiz has really screwed the pooch here, as well as the fans and Showtime. At that age and pattern I'd say that's a wrap on any career at the top. Shouldn't guys be dropped in ranking for sabotaging a fight just like they are for losing a fight? If I was Wilder I'd be pissed enough to demand my spot stay on card and just get Stiverne out of the way. If he wusses out hey give Breazeale a crack. Guarantee he'll at least show up the scrap unlike Stiverne last time he met Wilder.
Adam Kownacki, Jarrell Miller, Andy Ruiz, Robert Helenius and Alexander Ustinov would all be better opponents than Whyte. Whoever Wilder fights, he beats so I guess it doesn’t matter much but I’d like to see him fight Ruiz so I can compare his performance with Parker’s.
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Originally Posted by Gandalf
Agree 100%.
Supposedly Wilder said he will still fight Ortiz. I’m wondering if it’s just talk since I can’t imagine Ortiz even being allowed to fight.
Yeah, it's all talk. If they said "hey Deontay, you can fight him if you like, but the money will be way less seeing as it won't be a title fight.", I wonder what his answer would be.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
It is money money money with you. There are other things to life you know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraYeah, it's all talk. If they said "hey Deontay, you can fight him if you like, but the money will be way less seeing as it won't be a title fight.", I wonder what his answer would be.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Well correct me if I said anything wrong then?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterIt is money money money with you. There are other things to life you know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraYeah, it's all talk. If they said "hey Deontay, you can fight him if you like, but the money will be way less seeing as it won't be a title fight.", I wonder what his answer would be.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
There still seems to be some ambiguity about this which I don't get at all. If he's taking a prescription drug for a preexisting condition he should have disclosed it and it be part of a TUE. If he didn't disclose it then he should be banned. As mentioned already, you get pinged once, you make fucking sure of everything. Those special tea bags that you like so much, check it the fuck out..
For me Ortiz is a cheat and an unapologetic one at that. He got banned before, blamed it on horse meat, couldn't be bothered to defend himself. Fast forward a couple of years, he's still cheating, probably never stopped, fucked up his cycle again and now he's playing the blood pressure (but definitely a diuretic to dilute his piss) card.
Ban them and charge them with attempted assault with a deadly weapon.
I bet it will be wilder v stivern 2 even tho most people are talking about dillion replacing ortiz
I just have no interest in a second stiverne fight.
Stiverne is the mandatory not because he has done anything amazing since he lost to Wilder but because he has good contacts with the alphabet boys. I would say Don King may have helped but unsure he still has that influence.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
He was on the card as obvious next up with Wilder winning and Breazeale not pullin upset. It's what the fans need, to just get it over, but not what the sport needs. King is also the guy who kept Tucker reheated on the shelf longer than most Egg mcmuffins should even be allowed.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterStiverne is the mandatory not because he has done anything amazing since he lost to Wilder but because he has good contacts with the alphabet boys. I would say Don King may have helped but unsure he still has that influence.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
I'm still waiting for Wilder to get -1- mega fight win and drop that trinket in the shitter. Fault Ortiz there in fairness
Also Povetkin.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliHe was on the card as obvious next up with Wilder winning and Breazeale not pullin upset. It's what the fans need, to just get it over, but not what the sport needs. King is also the guy who kept Tucker reheated on the shelf longer than most Egg mcmuffins should even be allowed.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterStiverne is the mandatory not because he has done anything amazing since he lost to Wilder but because he has good contacts with the alphabet boys. I would say Don King may have helped but unsure he still has that influence.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
I'm still waiting for Wilder to get -1- mega fight win and drop that trinket in the shitter. Fault Ortiz there in fairness
So Wilder Stiverne II it is then.
Obviously would have prefered Ortiz but........Good move in binning him. Whichever way you slice it he/his team got it horribly wrong. His career is now over without ever really getting going.
https://twitter.com/WBCBoxing
What the fuck has Stiverne done to be ranked so highly? He hasn’t fought in nearly two years and has only fought once since losing to Wilder! That was a shitty decision win against Derric Rossy... even Audley Harrison banged out Rossy
He has ties with the alphabet boys if you know what I mean. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by GaMo
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tid=4302&stc=1Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I understand getting the mandatory out of the way, but I’m not 100% sure I’m even going to watch it. It’s basically a joke mandatory.