Re: Eubank JR next move..
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
Eubank didn't do too bad without a "promoter," he just finished his 4th ITV PPV on the bounce in a packed out MEN arena, no Eddie or Frank in sight. So if no-one wants to sign him, or will touch his old man, I suppose they can carry on doing what they're doing, working with other promoters in conjunction with putting on their own shows (I wouldn't feel too sorry for them, doubt they'll starve).
I don't think Jr is a boxing star I know it. It's not determined by the opinion of random individuals with biases, it's about what numbers are generated en masse. There's only two bigger crossover stars in the UK - AJ and Haye. Now what happens from here is yet to be determined.
If I didn't know you better , and know that you're knowledge overall is far greater than mine, I would think you're trolling! if you seriously believe what you're writing, I'm stunned.
4th ITV PPV - the first 3 probably had an aggregate click total of about 20,000 people tops! the 4th one and the fact that the MEN Arena was "Packed out" are down to Groves, Pure and simple. He fucking sold out Wembley ffs! And Froch freely admits it wasn't possible without Groves and that it was mainly because of him.
Working with other promoters - Who? You're talking about a guy who turned down a rematch with BJS for £1M to fight for a British title for £120k. The same guy turned down over £3M to fight GGG to fight for another £100k. wake up and smell the coffee man!
Crossover Star - What the fuck does that mean? if you mean "can get on the front and back pages of the papers and get on Good Morning TV," then Khan knocks him into a paper bag and that's worked well over the years hasn't it? :rolleyes:
to become this "Crossover star" that you continually drool about, you have to take care of business in the fucking ring first. And in the ring , he has proved himself to be a Novice with lots of "potential" (at 28 ;D) but limited technical skill , end of.
besides, there are loads of guys that are bigger crossover stars than him (for what it's worth.) Bellew, Fury, Frampton, Even Groves!
the 2 you mentioned (Haye & AJ) have both been WORLD CHAMPIONS , please don't embarrass yourself by countering that with the IBO!
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Mate it's not trolling for people to tell the truth and offer reality, you can believe whatever you want. You HATE the Eubanks with a passion, to me they're merely boxing people, I have no feelings for them either way. If they do something good I acknowledge it, something bad I acknowledge it. That's it. Why would I possibly bring up the IBO? What am I meant to be defending?
So Groves sold all the tickets and PPV.
Groves sold the Froch fight too.
Eubank's other fights were all embarrassing failures.
Eubank has just had two fights with Sauerland (second biggest outfit in Europe behind Matchroom) and two fights on their own (with Richard Poxon who used to run Hatton's firm) but nobody will ever work with them again.
He's not a crossover star.
Fair enough believe whatever you want. :)
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Yes , above all correct. I don't HATE the Eubanks. what I hate is when people earn disproportionate amounts of money for the ability they possess and what they have achieved. The reason I hate it , is because for every guy in that bracket , there are hundreds of other guys that are better and earn peanuts. It's not just Eubank that I feel this way about , there are many, many others, like Bellew ,Khan , McGregor , Whyte , Chisora and I could name many others .
but on the other side of it, you get guys that are slogging their guts out and getting shit money , just because the Hype machine hasn't whipped them up to be the next Messiah! and the reason it happens? is because people are fucking stupid enough to buy into it and believe without seeing with their very own eyes the limitations they possess.
And that is why I said , that anyone who believed before Saturday that Jnr. was going to be remotely near what his Dad was telling everyone , must be fucking stupid if they have actually seen what he boxes like.
It has almost come to the point where hype is more important than talent!
It's not just Boxing either, but don't start me on that. ;D
Re: Eubank JR next move..
Arrogance was his downfall no trainer as such as he new better his father hyping him up all in all
Groves gave him a boxing lesson George had a good grounding in the amauter and pro games
and it showed in the fight simple.
Eubank meet a seasoned savie champion and he was given a hard lesson in the noble art Jr suffers from stuck up your own ass sindrome just like Sr he was made to look foolish by George
is a nice guy I was lucky to talk to him a few years back pretty humble guy.
Well done George I hope he makes a good recovery but it will take some time to get right.:)
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I'm not sure anyone outside the media hyposphere could make a case for EU JR now getting in the ring with an alphabet title holder, and getting paid enough to satisfy his dad. He surely has to settle down and go for a few domestic titles at MW, in the time honoured fashion, and then try again if he succeeds.
Re: Eubank JR next move..
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Originally Posted by
nuggetdotcom
I'm not sure anyone outside the media hyposphere could make a case for EU JR now getting in the ring with an alphabet title holder, and getting paid enough to satisfy his dad. He surely has to settle down and go for a few domestic titles at MW, in the time honoured fashion, and then try again if he succeeds.
That makes sense but will his ego allow it?
I hope it does sometimes you have to take one step back in order to go two steps forward.
