Happy St Georges Day

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

So are certain types of girls targeted or no? If gangs are targeting certain people how can that be fixed without calling it out?

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They are all vulnerable girls, makes no difference to them. Sikh gangs pick up on it if it is a Sikh girl, whites do it if they are white.

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Yeah they are all vulnerable young girls, but (and please correct me if I'm wrong) MUSLIM rape gangs don't seem to be focused on picking up MUSLIM girls because they seem to be protecting their own community. Just what you can see from the papers and reporting on it.

Is that the case? If given the choice between an at risk white or Sikh girl and an at risk Muslim girl who would the MUSLIM Gang choose to groom/pimp out?


Part of me thinks that certain communities don't raise a bunch of fuss about these gangs because their communities aren't targeted/their communities benefit from such gangs.


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"Their communities benefit from such gangs?"

Fucking hell man, new low even for you.

Over here down in the trenches in Queens and also in parts of the Bronx and Jersey City we do have that pretty deep animosity between the Sikhs and the Muslims

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Originally Posted by Beanz

"Their communities benefit from such gangs?"

[/I]Fucking hell man, new low even for you.

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Well if someone in the neighborhood is bringing in bank for illegal activities and able to help out friends and family with money then yeah that's a reason (for SOME people) not to rat somebody out.

Also if there's a strict "the children of this neighborhood are safe from being pimped out" code that's another reason to not rat somebody out.

Also threats of violence, the whole "snitches get stitches" attitude.


There was a reason these gangs operated and weren't caught or investigated and some people suggested it was fear of being called racist to which you got all offended by. Authorities knew something was happening and they did nothing, why? There has to be a reason....but stay asleep old timer, don't fuss yourself with a question about this, just believe what those same authorities (who did nothing) tell you......maybe the authorities were in on it? Naaaaaaaaah no reason to give that a thought

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Originally Posted by Beanz

"Their communities benefit from such gangs?"

[/I]Fucking hell man, new low even for you.

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Well if someone in the neighborhood is bringing in bank for illegal activities and able to help out friends and family with money then yeah that's a reason (for SOME people) not to rat somebody out.

Also if there's a strict "the children of this neighborhood are safe from being pimped out" code that's another reason to not rat somebody out.

Also threats of violence, the whole "snitches get stitches" attitude.


There was a reason these gangs operated and weren't caught or investigated and some people suggested it was fear of being called racist to which you got all offended by. Authorities knew something was happening and they did nothing, why? There has to be a reason....but stay asleep old timer, don't fuss yourself with a question about this, just believe what those same authorities (who did nothing) tell you......maybe the authorities were in on it? Naaaaaaaaah no reason to give that a thought

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Anyone using the excuse that they did not say or do anything because they would be considered racist need sacking.

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Originally Posted by Beanz

"Their communities benefit from such gangs?"

[/I]Fucking hell man, new low even for you.

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Well if someone in the neighborhood is bringing in bank for illegal activities and able to help out friends and family with money then yeah that's a reason (for SOME people) not to rat somebody out.

Also if there's a strict "the children of this neighborhood are safe from being pimped out" code that's another reason to not rat somebody out.

Also threats of violence, the whole "snitches get stitches" attitude.


There was a reason these gangs operated and weren't caught or investigated and some people suggested it was fear of being called racist to which you got all offended by. Authorities knew something was happening and they did nothing, why? There has to be a reason....but stay asleep old timer, don't fuss yourself with a question about this, just believe what those same authorities (who did nothing) tell you......maybe the authorities were in on it? Naaaaaaaaah no reason to give that a thought

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Why don't you worry about your own country? Don't pretend that you are in the least bit worried about abused kids when you sneer at dead bodies of toddlers on beaches. Sick of your self righteous lecturing about things you want to take the moral high ground on when in reality you act like a fucking snake. You sound like a greasy politician. When have i apologised for the kind of scum that do this or been offended and tried to make excuses for the people who let his happen?

You think you are such a fucking expert on everything and yet you are nothing but a boy who does not even live in the country you are lecturing. How many cases have you helped put together to bring the bastards that do this kind of thing to justice? You want to believe everything is a conspiracy to save yourself from having any responsibility, but the abuse of power by sick men is universal and you defend it.

How the fuck do you manage to make a thread celebrating England into one in which your get on your soapbox and lecture people who are far more informed and experienced than you on the ills of their country?

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Why don't you worry about your own country? Don't pretend that you are in the least bit worried about abused kids when you sneer at dead bodies of toddlers on beaches. Sick of your self righteous lecturing about things you want to take the moral high ground on when in reality you act like a fucking snake. You sound like a greasy politician. When have i apologised for the kind of scum that do this or been offended and tried to make excuses for the people who let his happen?

You think you are such a fucking expert on everything and yet you are nothing but a boy who does not even live in the country you are lecturing. How many cases have you helped put together to bring the bastards that do this kind of thing to justice? You want to believe everything is a conspiracy to save yourself from having any responsibility, but the abuse of power by sick men is universal and you defend it.

How the fuck do you manage to make a thread celebrating England into one in which your get on your soapbox and lecture people who are far more informed and experienced than you on the ills of their country?

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LOL are you kidding me, you're bringing up the Syrian kid whose Daddy wanted dental work in Europe so he risked the life of his toddler to get that million dollar smile?!?!?! Yeah, I'm fairly certain I'd go toothless instead of risking my child's life at all and I don't even have kids yet.


Sick of my what now? LOL I don't care, it's a free forum I'll post what I like. And yeah that includes my opinions (good and bad) of YOUR country.


Who said you apologized for anything? Read much do ya?


I don't think I'm an expert on much of anything. So instead of questioning the local authorities you want to have a go at me for pointing out the incompetence/corrupt nature of the local police in Rotherham or Rochdale or everywhere else this has happened? Bravo, this will surely end grooming gangs :rolleyes:

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You want to believe everything is a conspiracy to save yourself from having any responsibility, but the abuse of power by sick men is universal and you defend it.

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Ummm what? Where do I defend "the abuse of power by sick men"? Gonna point that out maybe supply some evidence or something???

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How the fuck do you manage to make a thread celebrating England into one in which your get on your soapbox and lecture people who are far more informed and experienced than you on the ills of their country?

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"Your get on your soapbox"......dafuq?


Um all I did was ask Master a question and then followed up by asking some more questions. I quite appreciate Master being involved in responding. Meanwhile you are just waiting to pounce on any post I make for whatever reason you want to.....how's about you try following someone else, maybe that'll suit you better?

Lyle I started this thread so how the fuck am I following you? Are you now saying that people need your permission to post in a thread they start about the country that they live in? Or are you saying that the only reason i could have started a thread celebrating England is because it was a trap to get you in to offer you opinion so that I could follow you? You need to put down that bong and get a fucking job son:wackomz4:

So Lyle is only allowed to post in a thread about his own country now? I am sure there have been several threads that Lyle started about his own country in which you posted in

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So Lyle is only allowed to post in a thread about his own country now? I am sure there have been several threads that Lyle started about his own country in which you posted in

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I think we need to look at the bigger picture when the FBI or the CIA coming a knocking on my door I shall blame Brock for all the misdemeanors in the World how dare he or Lyle give a opinion on anything.;D

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

So Lyle is only allowed to post in a thread about his own country now? I am sure there have been several threads that Lyle started about his own country in which you posted in

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I never said Lyle couldn't post in this thread at all though did I. I am not accusing him of following me around. The loon is posting in this thread, which I started, and then accusing me of following him :-\;D. Meanwhile you are just shit stirring and trolling all the boards like a teenage girl looking for attention.

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Originally Posted by Beanz

Lyle I started this thread so how the fuck am I following you? Are you now saying that people need your permission to post in a thread they start about the country that they live in? Or are you saying that the only reason i could have started a thread celebrating England is because it was a trap to get you in to offer you opinion so that I could follow you? You need to put down that bong and get a fucking job son:wackomz4:

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Well if you look at the other threads going and take into account that I asked a direct question of Master (not you, you're not Master) and yet here you are. You come all up in my threads ALL THE TIME so don't expect me to not get in your thread if you're not avoiding mine.

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

So Lyle is only allowed to post in a thread about his own country now? I am sure there have been several threads that Lyle started about his own country in which you posted in

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I think we need to look at the bigger picture when the FBI or the CIA coming a knocking on my door I shall blame Brock for all the misdemeanors in the World how dare he or Lyle give a opinion on anything.;D

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You want to defend snowflakes be my guest. 53 000+ posts is hardly evidence of Lyle not being able to give an opinion on anything. Fucking hell the guy probably has an opinion on what you had for breakfast. Meanwhile Brock has just scoffed the lot and went back to gurning on his cellphone

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So Lyle is only allowed to post in a thread about his own country now? I am sure there have been several threads that Lyle started about his own country in which you posted in

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I think we need to look at the bigger picture when the FBI or the CIA coming a knocking on my door I shall blame Brock for all the misdemeanors in the World how dare he or Lyle give a opinion on anything.;D

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You want to defend snowflakes be my guest. 53 000+ posts is hardly evidence of Lyle not being able to give an opinion on anything. Fucking hell the guy probably has an opinion on what you had for breakfast. Meanwhile Brock has just scoffed the lot and went back to gurning on his cellphone

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Maybe I do and if I did it wouldn't be any of your fucking business.




@Dia bando what did you have for breaky mate?

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Originally Posted by Beanz

Lyle I started this thread so how the fuck am I following you? Are you now saying that people need your permission to post in a thread they start about the country that they live in? Or are you saying that the only reason i could have started a thread celebrating England is because it was a trap to get you in to offer you opinion so that I could follow you? You need to put down that bong and get a fucking job son:wackomz4:

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Well if you look at the other threads going and take into account that I asked a direct question of Master (not you, you're not Master) and yet here you are. You come all up in my threads ALL THE TIME so don't expect me to not get in your thread if you're not avoiding mine.

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Well come on then spit it out, what are you salient points about St Georges day which has now passed? or are you waiting to spend your foodstamps on foie gras

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Lyle I started this thread so how the fuck am I following you? Are you now saying that people need your permission to post in a thread they start about the country that they live in? Or are you saying that the only reason i could have started a thread celebrating England is because it was a trap to get you in to offer you opinion so that I could follow you? You need to put down that bong and get a fucking job son:wackomz4:

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Well if you look at the other threads going and take into account that I asked a direct question of Master (not you, you're not Master) and yet here you are. You come all up in my threads ALL THE TIME so don't expect me to not get in your thread if you're not avoiding mine.

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Well come on then spit it out, what are you salient points about St Georges day which has now passed? or are you waiting to spend your foodstamps on foie gras

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How dare you say about Lyle and foie gras. The smoking jacket has nothing to do with it either although you would suggest he wears that while eating the liver of a goose

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Originally Posted by Beanz

Lyle I started this thread so how the fuck am I following you? Are you now saying that people need your permission to post in a thread they start about the country that they live in? Or are you saying that the only reason i could have started a thread celebrating England is because it was a trap to get you in to offer you opinion so that I could follow you? You need to put down that bong and get a fucking job son:wackomz4:

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Well if you look at the other threads going and take into account that I asked a direct question of Master (not you, you're not Master) and yet here you are. You come all up in my threads ALL THE TIME so don't expect me to not get in your thread if you're not avoiding mine.

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Well come on then spit it out, what are you salient points about St Georges day which has now passed? or are you waiting to spend your foodstamps on foie gras

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Well I hope everyone except you had a wonderful St. George's Day and hopefully you can end the horrible reign of Theresa May mercifully soon, perhaps Moggie would be a good PM, he wouldn't be better than Farrage, but oh well such is that system of government. Either way do try your best to get England back on the right track, Brexit and have pride in the history of your nation stop cowering every time someone says "Racist!!!!!" Your history is one to be proud of and not shy away from.


When you post in my threads you don't so much provide salient points as much as you just offer up insults and waste space....I'd tell you to take a seat, but I don't want to be offensive so carefully lean gently up against something and shut the fuck up ;)

[MENTION=17039]Beanz will March on Picadilly with a purple banner reading "Theresa May MAY-DAY"

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Why was that gaffe so offensive, so much so that it made the news?

I know it's common for many Sikh's to publicly hate muslims, they do so with no sense of embarrassment, but is it actually the norm, widespread through that community? I never even realised they hated each other until recent times when the lunatic muslims started blowing everyone up. Now I can recall the Indians and Pakistani's I was friends/worked with that would constantly slate each other behind their backs (call each other filthy animals and shit like that). I was totally ignorant that it was a religious/cultural thing, I used to think the insults were a bit harsh just never realised they were heartfelt

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Sikh's were persecuted by some of the Muslim kings that ruled India at the time in a very barbaric way. However most of the time it was peaceful and respectful which is forgotten.

When they divided India and Pakistan there were further gang murders and rapes which continued the hatred. However there are beautiful stories where Muslim and Sikh's saved each other from these gangs which also get forgotten.

Anyone with common sense will realise we are all from the same "stock" and normally are our friends when we grow up. Sure there are gangs from each side and will say they "target and take our girls" but I class them as extreme ignorant nutters. Unfortunately there are a lot of these idiots and EDL/UKIP find and use them.

Makes me mad when they do that.

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Yeah I understand the history, you've said in the past your cousins hate muslims, you called them idiots.

I'm asking why so many sikhs were outraged for the temple to be called a mosque? The sikh spokesman from your article seems horrified to be regarded as a muslim. Were you offended? If the diplomat had made the mistake of calling it a church instead of mosque would the sikh community have equally been outraged?

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Why was that gaffe so offensive, so much so that it made the news?

I know it's common for many Sikh's to publicly hate muslims, they do so with no sense of embarrassment, but is it actually the norm, widespread through that community? I never even realised they hated each other until recent times when the lunatic muslims started blowing everyone up. Now I can recall the Indians and Pakistani's I was friends/worked with that would constantly slate each other behind their backs (call each other filthy animals and shit like that). I was totally ignorant that it was a religious/cultural thing, I used to think the insults were a bit harsh just never realised they were heartfelt

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Sikh's were persecuted by some of the Muslim kings that ruled India at the time in a very barbaric way. However most of the time it was peaceful and respectful which is forgotten.

When they divided India and Pakistan there were further gang murders and rapes which continued the hatred. However there are beautiful stories where Muslim and Sikh's saved each other from these gangs which also get forgotten.

Anyone with common sense will realise we are all from the same "stock" and normally are our friends when we grow up. Sure there are gangs from each side and will say they "target and take our girls" but I class them as extreme ignorant nutters. Unfortunately there are a lot of these idiots and EDL/UKIP find and use them.

Makes me mad when they do that.

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Yeah I understand the history, you've said in the past your cousins hate muslims, you called them idiots.

I'm asking why so many sikhs were outraged for the temple to be called a mosque? The sikh spokesman from your article seems horrified to be regarded as a muslim. Were you offended? If the diplomat had made the mistake of calling it a church instead of mosque would the sikh community have equally been outraged?

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Ya seems a bit overboard, granted the guy should have been aware maybe studied a bit but he didn't mean to insult anyone. I wouldn't expect a Sikh to know the churches in Israel and if he made an error naming it I'd just tell him the correct name, no harm done.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Why was that gaffe so offensive, so much so that it made the news?

I know it's common for many Sikh's to publicly hate muslims, they do so with no sense of embarrassment, but is it actually the norm, widespread through that community? I never even realised they hated each other until recent times when the lunatic muslims started blowing everyone up. Now I can recall the Indians and Pakistani's I was friends/worked with that would constantly slate each other behind their backs (call each other filthy animals and shit like that). I was totally ignorant that it was a religious/cultural thing, I used to think the insults were a bit harsh just never realised they were heartfelt

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Sikh's were persecuted by some of the Muslim kings that ruled India at the time in a very barbaric way. However most of the time it was peaceful and respectful which is forgotten.

When they divided India and Pakistan there were further gang murders and rapes which continued the hatred. However there are beautiful stories where Muslim and Sikh's saved each other from these gangs which also get forgotten.

Anyone with common sense will realise we are all from the same "stock" and normally are our friends when we grow up. Sure there are gangs from each side and will say they "target and take our girls" but I class them as extreme ignorant nutters. Unfortunately there are a lot of these idiots and EDL/UKIP find and use them.

Makes me mad when they do that.

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Yeah I understand the history, you've said in the past your cousins hate muslims, you called them idiots.

I'm asking why so many sikhs were outraged for the temple to be called a mosque? The sikh spokesman from your article seems horrified to be regarded as a muslim. Were you offended? If the diplomat had made the mistake of calling it a church instead of mosque would the sikh community have equally been outraged?

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Ya seems a bit overboard, granted the guy should have been aware maybe studied a bit but he didn't mean to insult anyone. I wouldn't expect a Sikh to know the churches in Israel and if he made an error naming it I'd just tell him the correct name, no harm done.

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I was not offended but it just shows how ignorant people can be when they should know the basics. They would have been qually offended if they called it a church. Calling it a mosque shows they see Sikhs and Muslims as the same brown people with beards and turbans. When terrorist attacks happen, Sikhs get attacked for it.

It is my brother in law who hates Muslims and I worry about my nephew growing up with his views.

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So Lyle is only allowed to post in a thread about his own country now? I am sure there have been several threads that Lyle started about his own country in which you posted in

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I think we need to look at the bigger picture when the FBI or the CIA coming a knocking on my door I shall blame Brock for all the misdemeanors in the World how dare he or Lyle give a opinion on anything.;D

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You want to defend snowflakes be my guest. 53 000+ posts is hardly evidence of Lyle not being able to give an opinion on anything. Fucking hell the guy probably has an opinion on what you had for breakfast. Meanwhile Brock has just scoffed the lot and went back to gurning on his cellphone

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Maybe I do and if I did it wouldn't be any of your fucking business.




@Dia bando what did you have for breaky mate?

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Me many things have not watched much boxing of late last Saturday Lyle got hammered seen a ACDC tribute band live wire good night bad head the next day.;D
In work mad over 50 plus cremations a week watching Liverpool of course finding the time to get on the forum talked to Steve the other day on Skype.
Come back its like groundhog day everybody still bitching lol ;D Saturday tomorrow watch some classic motorcycle racing in Oulton Park.
Trying to get a life yesterday bike MOT new tyre fitted in the crafty dragon for breakfast full english and 2 coffees lovely
now back here with you crazy fuckers ;D

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Me many things have not watched much boxing of late last Saturday Lyle got hammered seen a ACDC tribute band live wire good night bad head the next day.;D
In work mad over 50 plus cremations a week watching Liverpool of course finding the time to get on the forum talked to Steve the other day on Skype.
Come back its like groundhog day everybody still bitching lol ;D Saturday tomorrow watch some classic motorcycle racing in Oulton Park.
Trying to get a life yesterday bike MOT new tyre fitted in the crafty dragon for breakfast full english and 2 coffees lovely
now back here with you crazy fuckers ;D

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OK so the biggest question....the AC/DC tribute band, the singer was he more Bon Scott or Brian Johnson? I personally dig both and think that Johnson filled in nicely after Bon's passing but to me Bon Scott is one of the better front men in the history of rock'n'roll, awesome voice, great presence on stage, mischievous, imp-like just the perfect lead singer for a hard rock band.


Yeah same ol' same ol' on here "Help! Help! This GROUP of posters is harassing me and the entire forum" :rolleyes: ......fucking ridiculous

Ooooh a full English, proper meal there my friend! Great way to start a day! If you dig that you'd most likely enjoy a good Southern breakfast as well.


Glad to have you back! (watch us get a lecture on spamming this thread :shakehead: .....maybe they'll ask us to raise a hand and be called on before we're allowed to post ;D)

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Me many things have not watched much boxing of late last Saturday Lyle got hammered seen a ACDC tribute band live wire good night bad head the next day.;D
In work mad over 50 plus cremations a week watching Liverpool of course finding the time to get on the forum talked to Steve the other day on Skype.
Come back its like groundhog day everybody still bitching lol ;D Saturday tomorrow watch some classic motorcycle racing in Oulton Park.
Trying to get a life yesterday bike MOT new tyre fitted in the crafty dragon for breakfast full english and 2 coffees lovely
now back here with you crazy fuckers ;D

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OK so the biggest question....the AC/DC tribute band, the singer was he more Bon Scott or Brian Johnson? I personally dig both and think that Johnson filled in nicely after Bon's passing but to me Bon Scott is one of the better front men in the history of rock'n'roll, awesome voice, great presence on stage, mischievous, imp-like just the perfect lead singer for a hard rock band.


Yeah same ol' same ol' on here "Help! Help! This GROUP of posters is harassing me and the entire forum" :rolleyes: ......fucking ridiculous

Ooooh a full English, proper meal there my friend! Great way to start a day! If you dig that you'd most likely enjoy a good Southern breakfast as well.


Glad to have you back! (watch us get a lecture on spamming this thread :shakehead: .....maybe they'll ask us to raise a hand and be called on before we're allowed to post ;D)

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The band first hour Scott look a like TNT etc second hour Johnson look a like both were brilliant just £15 each to get in a mile down the road in Rhos Stwit.:)
Well I shall give you permission to post,;D yes I have had a few southern breakfasts in Florida enjoyed them as well Lyle as a fellow Liverpool supporter I shall back you all the way.;)

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The band first hour Scott look a like TNT etc second hour Johnson look a like both were brilliant just £15 each to get in a mile down the road in Rhos Stwit.:)
Well I shall give you permission to post,;D yes I have had a few southern breakfasts in Florida enjoyed them as well Lyle as a fellow Liverpool supporter I shall back you all the way.;)

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Fuckin A that is awesome!

"Well I shall give you permission to post,;D"

Right on :lyle:


Now whereabouts in Florida were you? Florida is an odd state (ergo the #FloridaMan stories) in the Northern parts of Florida you have a bunch of the most country, redneck, white trash, good ol boys, go to the South a bit and you get Disney and all that crazy shit and then even farther South you get Cubans (God love 'em, great food, great culture, shame about the Commies, great people), the Snowbirds (fuckin' Yankees, although some are good people I suppose), and the Faaags :gayfight2::homo2: (not that there's anything wrong with that).


Thanks for the backing, I'm pumped up for the shot at #6 I'm hoping we continue rolling on like we are! YNWA Dia

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The band first hour Scott look a like TNT etc second hour Johnson look a like both were brilliant just £15 each to get in a mile down the road in Rhos Stwit.:)
Well I shall give you permission to post,;D yes I have had a few southern breakfasts in Florida enjoyed them as well Lyle as a fellow Liverpool supporter I shall back you all the way.;)

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Fuckin A that is awesome!

"Well I shall give you permission to post,;D"

Right on :lyle:


Now whereabouts in Florida were you? Florida is an odd state (ergo the #FloridaMan stories) in the Northern parts of Florida you have a bunch of the most country, redneck, white trash, good ol boys, go to the South a bit and you get Disney and all that crazy shit and then even farther South you get Cubans (God love 'em, great food, great culture, shame about the Commies, great people), the Snowbirds (fuckin' Yankees, although some are good people I suppose), and the Faaags :gayfight2::homo2: (not that there's anything wrong with that).


Thanks for the backing, I'm pumped up for the shot at #6 I'm hoping we continue rolling on like we are! YNWA Dia

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Disney but stayed in a villa about 4 miles away done Coco beach silver lake old town etc the first time the parks Tampa driving round small towns just looking round hot as hell.:)

Ah near where the shuttle launches used to be were ya....I actually went to a couple of those, got to sit as close as well as close as anyone outside the shuttle would want to sit.

The Disney area is suspect when it comes to true Southern food, but I suppose I'll give you a pass. If you ever hit up Charleston, SC you can find some good Southern cooking there, New Orleans of course, Savannah, GA does alright, and of course there's several areas too many to mention really where the food is on point but if you ever want barbecue you're going to want to head to NC. We have the ONLY 2 styles of barbecue there is, Eastern style and Lexington.....Eastern style is vinegar based sauce with red pepper flakes, whole hog, and Lexington style has a more substantial sauce (due to a little ketchup and/or a little molasses) shoulder meat only. Sure people will tout Texas brisket (beef ain't bbq) and KC ribs (ribs ain't bbq) and those are fine but they ain't barbecue.

Damn, now I'm hungry

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Why was that gaffe so offensive, so much so that it made the news?

I know it's common for many Sikh's to publicly hate muslims, they do so with no sense of embarrassment, but is it actually the norm, widespread through that community? I never even realised they hated each other until recent times when the lunatic muslims started blowing everyone up. Now I can recall the Indians and Pakistani's I was friends/worked with that would constantly slate each other behind their backs (call each other filthy animals and shit like that). I was totally ignorant that it was a religious/cultural thing, I used to think the insults were a bit harsh just never realised they were heartfelt

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Sikh's were persecuted by some of the Muslim kings that ruled India at the time in a very barbaric way. However most of the time it was peaceful and respectful which is forgotten.

When they divided India and Pakistan there were further gang murders and rapes which continued the hatred. However there are beautiful stories where Muslim and Sikh's saved each other from these gangs which also get forgotten.

Anyone with common sense will realise we are all from the same "stock" and normally are our friends when we grow up. Sure there are gangs from each side and will say they "target and take our girls" but I class them as extreme ignorant nutters. Unfortunately there are a lot of these idiots and EDL/UKIP find and use them.

Makes me mad when they do that.

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Yeah I understand the history, you've said in the past your cousins hate muslims, you called them idiots.

I'm asking why so many sikhs were outraged for the temple to be called a mosque? The sikh spokesman from your article seems horrified to be regarded as a muslim. Were you offended? If the diplomat had made the mistake of calling it a church instead of mosque would the sikh community have equally been outraged?

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Ya seems a bit overboard, granted the guy should have been aware maybe studied a bit but he didn't mean to insult anyone. I wouldn't expect a Sikh to know the churches in Israel and if he made an error naming it I'd just tell him the correct name, no harm done.

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I was not offended but it just shows how ignorant people can be when they should know the basics. They would have been qually offended if they called it a church. Calling it a mosque shows they see Sikhs and Muslims as the same brown people with beards and turbans. When terrorist attacks happen, Sikhs get attacked for it.

It is my brother in law who hates Muslims and I worry about my nephew growing up with his views.

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Granted it is ignorant to confuse a sikh with a muslim, however, in this case the mistake was made about a building not a human. You say sikhs would have been equally outraged had the building accidently been called a synagogue, however, that wouldn't have been a case of confusing the religion of certain brown people, but I guess sikhs would be outraged to be considered jews or christians too.

Either way, it can't be as bad as it is for the poor muslims, imagine how they feel reading these stories, they are so despised that it makes BBC news when people are mistaken for them.