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Not enough fireworks.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
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Originally Posted by sanatogen
And this would be a good thing for boxing how.
This is precisely what's wrong with heavyweight boxing right now. AJ won't cross the Atlantic.... and Wilder balks at leaving Alabama. WTF?!?
Hopefully the Wilder-Fury fight goes through as promised, 'cause it'll at least throw some egg on Team Joshua's face.
It's not good for boxing. It's the reality, unfortunately. Its the Klitschko situation with fighting in Germany almost all of the time.
Tony "Little Klit" Joshua
Give it time AJ will conquer the world.
May be, but he peaked against Wlad, that was his Defining Moment, never to be reached again. He looked feeble and mediocre last time out, 12 rounds of tossQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
It’s a good fight purely because wilder could clearly knock him out. I don’t think that’s the most likely outcome, AJ could certainly stop wilder, but has far less chance of doing so with one punch. He is somewhat rigid, and wilder is a violent and explosive guy. How the first round goes would likely be very telling.
Wilder will ~pierce~ Tony Joshua's rigid squared-up robotic stance
Pierce his chin, like a pin ~pops thru~ a big, fat maggot, SPLAT!
Steve he beat Wlad mate Olympic Champion and World Champion what more do you want.?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
41 year old Wladimir Klitschko.
Not saying too much is it
It's saying a bit more than anything Wilder has doneQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
I think Ortiz foughtr a lot better than Klitschko didQuote:
Originally Posted by BatmanIt's saying a bit more than anything Wilder has doneQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
For a geezer Wlad actually raised his game though. Every bout of one for multiple titles for a decade and ones a capable boxer and two time drug cheat.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustI think Ortiz foughtr a lot better than Klitschko didQuote:
Originally Posted by BatmanIt's saying a bit more than anything Wilder has doneQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
There isn’t much to actually separate the two. Wlad certainly fought better against Aj then he had for quite some time prior, but Ortiz might have pulled off the performance of his life against Wilder, and he’d always had extremely good hands for a hw, however old he is. I don’t think anyone would be confident in predicting how either Waldo vs Ortiz, or wilder vs aj would have gone on those same nights....
So run it by me again. In his 41 fights, how come we’ve NEVER heard Wilder call out Wlad or be linked with a fight with him, or try to unify against him ?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Strange , because he wasn’t shy about being vocal about calling Joshua out when Joshua was a NOVICE, before Joshua was even British champion.
A WORLD champion calling out a novice! ;D;D
And we’ve heard Wilder call out a 3 year inactive Fury. But we’ve NEVER heard him mention Wlad’s name EVER!
Hmmmmm. Don’t you find that strange?
That’s a pretty good point, but I do think wilder would have taken the fight given the same circumstances. For me, Ortiz was as dangerous at the time, as far as risk reward....Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraSo run it by me again. In his 41 fights, how come we’ve NEVER heard Wilder call out Wlad or be linked with a fight with him, or try to unify against him ?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Strange , because he wasn’t shy about being vocal about calling Joshua out when Joshua was a NOVICE, before Joshua was even British champion.
A WORLD champion calling out a novice! ;D;D
And we’ve heard Wilder call out a 3 year inactive Fury. But we’ve NEVER heard him mention Wlad’s name EVER!
Hmmmmm. Don’t you find that strange?
I disagree with this part, he was on 'medication' and who knows how old he really is.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingThat’s a pretty good point, but I do think wilder would have taken the fight given the same circumstances. For me, Ortiz was as dangerous at the time, as far as risk reward....Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraSo run it by me again. In his 41 fights, how come we’ve NEVER heard Wilder call out Wlad or be linked with a fight with him, or try to unify against him ?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Strange , because he wasn’t shy about being vocal about calling Joshua out when Joshua was a NOVICE, before Joshua was even British champion.
A WORLD champion calling out a novice! ;D;D
And we’ve heard Wilder call out a 3 year inactive Fury. But we’ve NEVER heard him mention Wlad’s name EVER!
Hmmmmm. Don’t you find that strange?
Wilder didn't call out Vladimir because Vladimir is all wrong for him. Klitschko could pick off and Parry his amateurish shots and lean back well out of the way of Wilder's range. Klitschko has that very good raised arm defense and that would really block those Wild and wide windmill shots coming in.
So if Wilder beat Wlad it would be a great win?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
AJ beat Wlad and he is an over the hill 41 year old and the win means nothing.
Well if Wilder beat Wlad it would be a great win, as Wilder has a style Wlad could embarrass badly.
I'm confident in saying Wlad would have beat Ortiz and AJ would have annihilated Wilder (unless he got caught whilst finishing him).Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Wilder spent most of the Ortiz fight with his right hand cocked, he was controlled with nothing more than a methodical punch output which dropped to virtual zero after round 6? 7?. Ortiz clearly punched himself out, Wilder didn't do anything to turn the fight around.
AJ was outboxing Wlad before he ran into a brick wall but then resumed outboxing him.
Wlad-Ortiz would be a nice boring slow paced boxing match which ultimately the longer, rangier, fitter, younger man would win 10 out of 10.
AJ is the face of DAZN and it's main aim is to crack the US market first which means bringing AJ over to fight there.
These fights surely have to be Prime Time in the US to give their top boy maximum exposure.
Gonna be interesting to see how Hearn handles this, does he piss off the UK fans making us tune in to see our home fighter at silly o clock in the morning to give the best chance of viewing figures in the US, think he's gonna have to.
If it's the right fight I don't think it would piss the UK fans off at all, they've shown in the past that they are more than willing to travel in order to show their support and a lot of people see staying up to watch a PPV fight as a bit of a novelty.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
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Originally Posted by BatmanIf it's the right fight I don't think it would piss the UK fans off at all, they've shown in the past that they are more than willing to travel in order to show their support and a lot of people see staying up to watch a PPV fight as a bit of a novelty.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
Bit thin on the ground though decent US Heavyweights, Wilder is huge and people will tune in at 4am in the UK but who next?
Is Miller gonna do anywhere near those numbers - no chance.
Then it's a rematch with Whyte or a fight with Fury and that's when Hearns in a tricky spot.
2 UK fighters fighting at 4am to satisfy the US market?
They are stadium fights in the UK but.... If doable 80,000 at Wembley at 4am would be mental 😁
I remember being at the MEN for Calzaghe v Lacy which started around 2-3am.
Everyone was shitfaced by midnight 😂
Wembley is on a curfew, every event needs to be done and dusted by 11pm, otherwise you can't even stage the event.
Those dark days of British boxing having to pander to American TV are long gone. That was the Warren days. Calzaghe-Lacy sold 8000 tickets (which is nothing now), was non-PPV (ITV) which made Lacy's money from Showtime (American TV) valuable enough for Frank to shit on the British fans.
The game is up if you ever see Matchroom/SKY do a British PPV event on American primetime.
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Yeah I remember the MEN was little over half full for JC v Lacy, I think with the recent Fox/Showtime competition Hearn/DAZN are gonna have to get AJ out to the US and they'll have to put him on US Primetime just to compete and remember with Haymons new venture it's gonna be difficult for Hearn to showcase AJ without a clash of fights.
It's already obvious that our yank friends will make it as difficult as possible for Hearn to succeed Stateside.
Hearns got his work cut Big Time.
With the new Haymon deal ready to go I just don't see DAZN pulling in loads of viewers (from scratch) unless they fully pimp the main man in the stable which is Joshua and get him fighting on Primetime US slots.
Like every country @Fenster your job is to entertain the US. Don’t get it twisted this “long gone” stuff will soon passQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Anthony Joshua is a big stupid oak tree that will get chopped down like Michael Grant got shot down and like Andrew golota got shot down he is just a big stupid oak tree and we'll get chopped down the way Frank Bruno got chopped down. Anthony Joshua is just all shoulders and height and bodybuilding shape and nothing more.
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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
You seem envious and bitter that the belts at Heavyweight have been scarce on US soil for a long time now and largely held by Brits and a Ukranian.
Tyson, Holyfield etc are long gone get over it.
You’re both complete morons, albeit for different reasons, and everyone with a clue knows this.
@smashup I don't care about which country the fighters are from as long as they're good and Tony Joshua is a big pile of donkey doo doo.
If you think that Wilder is huge in the UK, what figures do you base that on? His best ever UK viewing figures will be against Fury, then he will go back to low level 'opponents' in the US and be begging for a shot against fury/Joshua/whyte etc. Name any previous wilder fight that has achieved more than 10k viewers ppv in the uk, he's lucky to get that many youtube viewers from this country!Quote:
Originally Posted by smashupQuote:
Originally Posted by BatmanIf it's the right fight I don't think it would piss the UK fans off at all, they've shown in the past that they are more than willing to travel in order to show their support and a lot of people see staying up to watch a PPV fight as a bit of a novelty.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
Bit thin on the ground though decent US Heavyweights, Wilder is huge and people will tune in at 4am in the UK but who next?
Is Miller gonna do anywhere near those numbers - no chance.
Then it's a rematch with Whyte or a fight with Fury and that's when Hearns in a tricky spot.
2 UK fighters fighting at 4am to satisfy the US market?
They are stadium fights in the UK but.... If doable 80,000 at Wembley at 4am would be mental 😁
I remember being at the MEN for Calzaghe v Lacy which started around 2-3am.
Everyone was shitfaced by midnight 😂
After Fury sparks hype job Wilder there will be limited UK interest in stateside HW fights, however if Hearn has an interest US locally he can pick up with decent UK fighters against local ex football players until a new breed of true boxers comes thru from the US, may be good for the sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by BatmanIf it's the right fight I don't think it would piss the UK fans off at all, they've shown in the past that they are more than willing to travel in order to show their support and a lot of people see staying up to watch a PPV fight as a bit of a novelty.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
Little Tony Joshua is a punk. Wow he's fighting a 38 year old. What a great accomplishment this will really show who Joshua is. All the idiots in Wembley will think it is a great accomplishment if little Tony gets taken 12 rounds by 38 year old in the Twilight of his career
Joshua is a bum a mannequin a robot a stiff Frank Bruno like Punk who will get sparked buy both Wilder and fury
Anthony Joshua is so horribly susceptible to the overhand right and rights to the body that I cannot see him lasting more than six minutes with Deontay Wilder.
Anthony Joshua is the most tentative heavyweight champion I have ever seen fight with the possible exception of John Ruiz
Lackluster doesn't even begin to describe Anthony Joshua
He will gets speared through the chin by a right hand from Deontay Wilder and it will be good Night Irene. It is as clear as day if someone as small as povetkin in height and reach and weight can Pierce through Anthony Joshua's God so easily and so often then somebody like Deontay Wilder should be able to smoke this guy in 2 rounds
after watching the Anthony Joshua vs povetkin fight it is safe to say that almost any heavyweight champion over the past 50 years could whip Anthony Joshua and I am including even Leon Spinks
I have watched the fight three times already and I have never seen a worse left jab or a worse right hand on a heavyweight champion then Anthony Joshua
I like those two wrist bone karate chops on the back of prevention's neck right before the final knock down. I think Anthony Joshua needs to go get some Taco Bell now and smoke some marijuana I have never seen such a poor heavyweight champion in my entire life
I like those two wrist bone karate chops on the back of povetkon's neck right before the final knock down. I think Anthony Joshua needs to go get some Taco Bell now and smoke some marijuana I have never seen such a poor heavyweight champion in my entire life
don't give me this we have to do the best with what we have in the current state of affairs in boxing stuff. This is beyond pathetic stuff. A 39 year old guy could stretch him to the 7th round like that and I thought he was a head at that point by a point or so doesn't say too much about a 28 year old giant in his prime hahaha this is beyond pathetic at this point
Just waiting for the five paragraph reactions of the triggered posters after they read this thread
I know it's hard to admit but Anthony Joshua is garbage
Wilder is the most controlled , precise HW champion of all time .
He is so accurate and controlled.
Tyson Fury has the concussive power with that uppercut that he hit himself with.
AJ must be very afraid.
Fury has zero chance of knocking out AJ.
Wilder will smoke Little Tony-tone in two or three rounds with that straight right hand