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Originally Posted by walrus
I might take that do u have bitcoinQuote:
Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiac
I will have to make that money by fight time because I only have like $200 right now
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I do notQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusI might take that do u have bitcoinQuote:
Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiac
I will have to make that money by fight time because I only have like $200 right now
Oh no problem buy a few lottery tickets we will get her doneQuote:
Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiacI do notQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusI might take that do u have bitcoinQuote:
Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiac
I will have to make that money by fight time because I only have like $200 right now
Rocco, you are a legend and I love you a little bit, but I have to disagree with you. I can see Manny stopping Broner as Broner gets hit clean a lot and Manny will catch him shots he won't have trained for and likely won't see. Certainly a few KD's.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
It's a good fight and I am looking forward to it.
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Originally Posted by GandalfRocco, you are a legend and I love you a little bit, but I have to disagree with you. I can see Manny stopping Broner as Broner gets hit clean a lot and Manny will catch him shots he won't have trained for and likely won't see. Certainly a few KD's.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
It's a good fight and I am looking forward to it.
There will probably only be one knock down, certainly only one that matters.
Like I said I'm rooting for Pac, if only so I can get to watch Boner asking for daddy to comb his hair.
All this fight is, is an attention grab. It's "Hey Floyd, Floyd, look at me Floyd, look what I can do Floyd, fight me next Floyd" whether it's Manny or Broner who wins or looks good. This isn't about a title, it isn't about anything other than attempting to be relevant on the "Senior Tour" of boxing and it's fucking sad Adrien Broner is already in that group.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Let's be honest the Floyd-Manny fight was an Exhibition bout at best, Manny had already been laid out face first, the spark of interest in the fight was gone with Manny's consciousness...no reason at all to have that fight after that bout and here we are now looking for a rematch? Why? Are boxing fans masochists?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mor...id=mailsignout
It was announced today for the 19th of Jan. It'll be on Showtime PPV.
As a stand alone fight it's not bad, should be reasonably good to watch and a decent clash of styles. Of course kabong is right that it's a ploy to drum up whatever interest they can for a Floyd comeback. The majority of people who buy ppvs aren't boxing fans, so like it or not that would probably still be the most lucrative fight in the sport by a good margin.
I’m going to admit right now there is an 85% chance I’ll get this. It is a bit off a toss up as I have showtime right now and a week or two after the fight they replay it.
It’s PPV? Seriously? I would in no way order this fight.
I think Showtime is making a mistake with ppv. Just like Arum did with Manny v Horn at 6 AM espn+ on a workday here. HBO is dead in the water, you are the last remaining 'premier' cable channel so give the fans a big fight to start the year. I get that it's Manny and he is milking his remaining career but I can't pay for that. FFS it's Broner :-X. All he'll do is take my hand full of 20's and film himself using them to wipe his arse in some fast food restaraunt. True story :p.
They're greedy bastards (Showtime). They don't know any better.
The above comments prove my point about people Stateside being more discerning or choosy about PPV than in the UK. People debating about the values of this Whereas in the UK , we have Whyte/Chisora, Bellew/Haye (Twice) and Bellew/Cleverley ffs.
I know the cost comes into it, and for some reason PPV in the states is about 2 or 3 times more expensive than the UK . If this was in the UK, not only would it be PPV, they would probably dedicate a whole channel to this 24/7 !! ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujhImZbroIgQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
....that's all I have to say about that
That’s because we are smarter and don’t pay money for garbage fights 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Quite the contrast: Senator Manny vs Adrien Broner
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NEW YORK (AP) -- Dressed in a sharp gray suit and tie, Manny Pacquiao looked every bit the senator he is.
It was his other job, though, that he was working Monday when the eight-time champion announced a Jan. 19 defense of his WBA welterweight belt against Adrien Broner.
''He's one of the top boxers out there,'' Pacquiao said of Broner, who attended the news conference in slightly different garb: torn jeans adorned with spangles, a T-shirt and black jacket. ''Adrien Broner is a high-caliber fighter.
''I have no problem to fight at 140 (pounds), it's my natural weight. I can't say I am avoiding (opponents), that is not my style. I am willing to find other fighters to fight, too, I am available to fight at 140, 147. It is 147 for this fight.''
Pacquiao will be 40 when he enters the ring at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas to take on the 29-year-old Broner. It will be the Filipino's 70th fight in a career that began in 1995 and has included titles in weight classes from flyweight to welterweight. He hasn't fought in the United States in two years.
Referred to by his followers as Senator Manny, Pacquiao won and then lost the WBO welterweight crown following his lopsided loss to Floyd Mayweather in a May 2015 megafight. In July, he knocked out Lucas Matthysse for the WBA title, Pacquiao's first KO victory since 2009 when he stopped Miguel Cotto in the final round.
His government role will be placed aside, Pacquiao claims, while he prepares for Broner.
''My opponent is fast, good, and I have to work hard and train hard so the people will be happy on Jan. 19 when we give them a good fight,'' said Pacquiao, who flashed a mischievous smile when asked if another encounter with the currently retired Mayweather might be in the future.
''I am fighting Adrien Broner,'' Pacquiao said, adding he was with Mayweather in Japan and mentioned that he, not Mayweather, owned a belt, so ''you come challenge me.''
Broner views this as his chance to ''become a legend.'' As he strutted around the stage, his words at first were respectful toward Pacquiao, whom Broner ''dreamed of fighting when I was a kid.''
Soon, though, Broner was back to being Broner, the boastful, say-anything-character who likes talking trash as much as throwing leather.
''He ain't fighting Floyd, he's fighting me,'' Broner said. ''He's gotta get past me first.
''Of course, things he's done in the game are unbelievable. I know Jan. 19 I gotta be at the top of my game. I'm gonna (mess) him up.''
Broner, from Cincinnati, is 33-3-1 with 24 knockouts. But he didn't win either of his most recent fights, losing a unanimous decision to Mikey Garcia, who won his 36th straight, in July last year, and then drawing with Jessie Vargas.
Which means recent results indicate neither he nor Pacquiao is in his prime or close to it. Still, they are big enough names for Showtime to put the fight on pay-per-view television.
Both men were asked if they are elite boxers now. Neither flinched in answering.
''Yes, of course,'' Pacquiao insisted. ''I want to fight the greatest opponents in the world and one of them is Adrien Broner. I can fight anybody.''
Broner shook his head and smirked when queried on his skill level these days.
''I'm gonna do me; he's gotta worry about what I do,'' Broner said. ''I know what he can do.
''I got three losses, he's got (seven). He's been knocked out; we know he can go to sleep. I got the stuff to do it. I'll hit the jackpot overnight.''
https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/quite-co...5532--box.html
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Originally Posted by Master
Boner probably can't even spell "Senator."
If Broner wins he will call out Floyd. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Boner probably can't even spell "Senator."
Floyd isn't fighting anymore, he's competing in Exhibition bouts for which he'll be lavishly paid, but let's all face facts Floyd isn't stepping in the ring with ANYONE who has a chance against him....that's a shame because there certainly ARE guys who I'd like to see him fight, but the issue will ALWAYS be "They don't draw like Floyd" and of course they don't/won't.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterIf Broner wins he will call out Floyd. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Boner probably can't even spell "Senator."
Manny Pacquiao will be 40 years old by fight night....Adrien Broner is 29 and his career is already shot, we're not talking about him winning a title or defending a title, he's been beaten 3 times already, humiliated....he's not going to resurrect his career even if he can beat old man Pacqiao.
I don't know why Floyd doesn't fight once a year just to make that money in the exhibition bouts like vs McGregor.....if he fights either Pac or Broner it's pretty much like the Senior Tour of boxing.
Floyd doesn't want Terrence Crawford? Spence? Porter? Thurman? Garcia? Hurd? Charlo? Prograis?
Floyd COULD go school Canelo again super easy and make gigantic fucking earth shattering history and win the middleweight titles....but he's not going to do it.
I can't hate on Floyd for taking the easy money, but as a fan it's frustrating.
I don't mind the fight, but PPV is a joke.
I really hope Pac puts on a brutal beating.
Pac can make a statement by being the first to stop Broner as he is very durable as the Madina fight showed.
Crazy how Pac left Arum to beg at a chance for another rematch against Floyd.
This is the best chance Pac has to beat Floyd...Floyd is overweight and ideally needs a tune up before fighting Pac as he looked terrible against Conor.
We know Floyd never really trained for Conor but all this time out from fighting proper professional boxers will be his wake up call..that’s how they will sell the fight if Pac beats Broner.
I could never pay for the rematch because the first fight was one of the worst fights I’ve ever seen..147 needs a new GOAT and the current crop are missing something.
They are missing fighting each other, hopefully that starts to change.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Pacquiao won’t stop Broner. Broner is very durable and Pacquiao hasn’t stopped anybody in a long time other than Matthysse in his last fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Unlike others, I think that Broner will have his moments. He is durable and is still quick with his hands. Pacquiao will be too much for him in the end though.
Roach Surprised By Pacquiao's Announcement, May Not Work Broner Fight
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When Manny Pacquiao abruptly announced that he would be working with Freddie Roach for his upcoming fight with Adrien Broner, it took the boxing world by surprise—including Roach. Roach, the Hall of Fame trainer who transformed Pacquiao into one of the most fearsome fighters of this century, told SI.com he had no contact with Pacquiao or anyone with his team prior to the announcement and says he is undecided if he is willing to work with Pacquiao again.
“The thing is, I still have never directly spoken to Manny [since Pacquiao lost to Jeff Horn in 2017],” Roach told SI.com. “I’m not going to make a move until Manny calls me. I’ve been like a father to Manny for 15 years. If he can’t call me, there will be no deal.”
On Monday, at a press conference to promote Pacquiao’s defense of a secondary welterweight title against Broner, Pacquiao told reporters that Roach would return to his team in a supervisory role.
For his last fight, a knockout win over Lucas Matthysse, Pacquiao was trained by his longtime friend and assistant trainer, Buboy Fernandez.
“Me and Freddie, we have a good relationship since 2001,” Pacquiao said. “We don’t have problems in terms of training, sharing our knowledge about strategy, techniques in training. We don’t have problems with that.”
In addressing why Roach would not be his head trainer, Pacquiao cited Roach’s health.
“Buboy and Freddie, they’re a team,” Pacquiao said. “Buboy is always there. He has experience, many fights with Freddie. So I think Freddie can instruct Buboy to do something like that. Because, you know, Freddie’s not young anymore and I’m, you know, I feel pitiful with Freddie. I’m praying for him, for the healing of his sickness. My plan, my thinking is he can use Buboy to do mitts in training, supervise and watch the training, like that.”
Roach, 58, has battled Parkinson’s disease since he was 27. Roach, though, rarely misses a day of training in his Wild Card gym in Hollywood, Calif., and travels the country regularly to work with young fighters. Roach was in Boston last weekend, working the corner for light heavyweight Israel Duffus in a club show. He was also recently added to Tyson Fury’s corner for Fury’s anticipated showdown with heavyweight titleholder Deontay Wilder.
On Monday, Roach received a call from Joe Ramos, the COO of Manny Pacquiao Promotions. Ramos, Roach said, broached the idea of returning to Pacquaio’s team.
Roach ended the call, quickly.
“I’m not talking to Joe Ramos,” Roach told SI.com. “Joe Ramos knows nothing about boxing. I thought Joe was the coach of [Pacquiao’s] basketball team. I don’t want to talk to Joe Ramos. I want to talk to Manny.”
While Roach is frustrated by Pacquiao’s declaration that the two would be working together again—as well as Pacquiao’s refusal to speak to him for well over a year—he says he is open to working something out.
“I’d have to hear what the details are,” Roach said. “You never know who it is coming from when you hear from his camp. I’d have to hear what he wants me to do, what he wants Buboy to do. Am I supposed to train him? Am I supposed to come up with the game plan? He has to tell me, or I won’t be there.”
https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/roach-su...173942761.html
I don't know if it's just me, but I have never gone from such an extreme of liking a guy to the completely opposite end of the spectrum of disliking someone as I have with Pacquiao.
Years ago, I used to think he was such a lovely humble guy , to modern day where now I think he's a complete Cock, to the extent that I really don't have a problem if Broner beats him .
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Scrap that last sentence......... https://www.boxingscene.com/broner-g...shakin--133924
just read this, Fair play, Broner is such an ignorant twat , he just doesn't know where to stop . I have to admit, and please don't judge me (you can if you want.) that the first time I read it , I shamefully pissed myself! ;D
Primo, your love/hate of Golovkin is a close second.
Broner looks aged in that side by side pic. Not sure if it's the scraggly beard, skin tone or what but he don't look right.
Mate, GGG is a saint compared to these 2 knobheads!;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
I’m not a hater of GGG. I like him a lot. But I’m just disappointed with some career decisions he’s made , and now it’s too late to do anything about it.
I never like Pacquiao. At first it was because he kept beating fighters I liked or getting gift decisions. After that it was because his BS excuses for everything. He was a complete diva but because it was always a Manny vs Floyd thing going on, they had to portray Manny as the humble guy who made no excuses because we already had a diva in Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Basically nothing has changed for me. He said that he wants to show the division that he is still there. The problem is that he is still a draw and could fight any fighter he wanted. That means that he could call out anybody and they would fight him. He is still a good fighter but he knows that he can’t beat the top dogs at welter.
I lost a lot of respect for Manny as he supported what the phillipinos are doing human right wise. Drugs are terrible, a scourge but giving the population the ability to kill suspected users/dealers is insane
Broner is going to KO Pac.
You suckers are gonna feel so dumb when you see it happen!!!
Anyone who thinks Floyd is the bad guy between Floyd and Manny has their head in the sand. Floyd is a POS but Manny is a tragedy of horrific proportions to his people.
And the idea he was ever humble is a gross lie. Dude would sit in a room of yes men having one rub his back while he played horrible guitar and sang horrible songs as they watched his horrible TV shows. It’s not hard to find videos of this exact scenario. That is as far from humble as you can get. And all his excuses and lies...not humble.
Floyd and PAC both need to go away and stay away.
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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
I don’t know anything about the Philippines, aside from all the people I’ve met where I live from there are great. I know it’s the main board, but why is he so horrific? I’m sure you’re right, just at work and don’t feel like reading up on his political career.
It’s hard to keep up with all of it. Basically he gets his politics from the Bible so, we’ll, you’ve read the Bible, it’s a horror show. But his support of their President is disgusting. They are literally murdering suspects in crimes by policy. Suspects, not convicted people. By the thousandsQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingQuote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
I don’t know anything about the Philippines, aside from all the people I’ve met where I live from there are great. I know it’s the main board, but why is he so horrific? I’m sure you’re right, just at work and don’t feel like reading up on his political career.
Wasn’t he also an advocate of banning birth control? I’m pretty sure I remember hearing that some years back.
He's catholic isn't he? So I wouldn't be surprised.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Frankly banning birth control is horrible but not near as horrible as what they do in Africa. Teaching a lie that condoms are made with microscopic holes to transmit aids. This lie is no less than genocide. I think every person who ever uttered this horrible lie should be in prison
Sorry, got sidetracked. While Manny has said horrible things about homosexuality and such I’m sure he has nothing to do with the African genocide nobody talks about.
Basically Manny was put into government as a celebrity and just like his boxing career, he just listened and did whatever he was told. I honestly don’t think he is smart enough to make important decisions. That’s not a knock on him. That’s just being honest.
Badou Jack vs. Marcus Browne will meet in the co-feature of Pacquiao-Broner on Jan. 19 in Las Vegas.