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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
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Originally Posted by
Alpha
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Originally Posted by
Primo Carnera
Well I’m giving Mikey props for taking the fight in the first place. Like everyone else , I fancy Spence, but I just hope Garcia gives a good account of himself and it’s competitive.
Mikey walking around like:
https://mainlyboxing.files.wordpress...px4aabpcg.jpeg
I saw that pic on twitter and wanted to post it on here, but I didn't have a clue how to do it. ;D
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
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Originally Posted by
Primo Carnera
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Originally Posted by
Alpha
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Originally Posted by
Primo Carnera
Well I’m giving Mikey props for taking the fight in the first place. Like everyone else , I fancy Spence, but I just hope Garcia gives a good account of himself and it’s competitive.
Mikey walking around like:
https://mainlyboxing.files.wordpress...px4aabpcg.jpeg
I saw that pic on twitter and wanted to post it on here, but I didn't have a clue how to do it. ;D
Yea I saw one where they had photo shopped Mikey's face onto it ;D
Hearing that there was a push for VADA testing but was turned down by the A side. Question is who is the A side? Mikey's the bigger name, but Spence's name is first on the promotional stuff. Mikey's already enrolled with VADA with his WBC belt, does that mean Spence turned down the testing?
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
;D - Brilliant.
This is going to be like Brook-Golovkin.
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A5NKvXN2CYY
Now THIS is the fight I’m looking forward to!
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
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Originally Posted by
Primo Carnera
So Crawford is too small but Mikey is ok?
I want that fight as well tho.
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
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Originally Posted by
Alpha
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Originally Posted by
Primo Carnera
So Crawford is too small but Mikey is ok?
I want that fight as well tho.
Mikey is too small as well IMO. but credit to him that he really wants the fight. Crawford's frame is smaller than Spence, but Height , reach etc. , there isn't a lot in it. I just feel that Spence is probably big enough to go to LMW and dominate, and maybe even to MW eventually. That's why I think he may be able to impose his natural strength advantage on Crawford.
Having said that , Crawford is a thing of Boxing Beauty and maybe he can overcome that. I kinda hope he does. I like Spence, but would love to see class like Crawford go onto great things.
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
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Originally Posted by
Primo Carnera
There's something unnerving about Spence, he looks all bashful with a permanent smile on his boat but I constantly expect him to whip out a shooter and shout "gimme the motherfuckin loot!"
I'm sure Arum and the rest of 'em were thinking they're about to get turned over here.
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
I find it interesting that Spence and Haymon hesitantly only agreed to 10 weeks of VADA testing and only for it to start from Jan-5th.
Why couldn't they have started testing in Nov? I'm not accusing Spence of anything, but he already has every advantage, it's not a good look to be limiting testing time and we it can start from.
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
After watching the Pedraza fight I am convinced everything Mikey says about Loma is true, that the matrix stuff only works if a fighter isn’t talented enough to turn with him. But I don’t know if Mikey understands how good Loma is. Similar to how many don’t know how good GGG is, power power power, that jab tho.
I just want Mikey to come out of this undamaged so Spence and Mikey can be the stars they need to be to make the fights we’re all hoping for.
Spence/Crawford
Mikey/Loma
This is stuff we’ll rewatch 15 years from now
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
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Ron Swanson
After watching the Pedraza fight I am convinced everything Mikey says about Loma is true, that the matrix stuff only works if a fighter isn’t talented enough to turn with him. But I don’t know if Mikey understands how good Loma is. Similar to how many don’t know how good GGG is, power power power, that jab tho.
I just want Mikey to come out of this undamaged so Spence and Mikey can be the stars they need to be to make the fights we’re all hoping for.
Spence/Crawford
Mikey/Loma
This is stuff we’ll rewatch 15 years from now
I think yourself and I have been some of the biggest Mikey backers on this site in recent times. I still feel Mikey beats Loma. But I agree, who knows what a devastating loss to Spence could do to Mikey? Would he still be the same? Does it diminish a future Loma fight?
I will say tho that I'm interested to see a Loma/ Commey fight. I think Commey is fighting for the vacant belt on ESPN, so that would lead nicely into a Loma clash.
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
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Originally Posted by
Alpha
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Originally Posted by
Ron Swanson
After watching the Pedraza fight I am convinced everything Mikey says about Loma is true, that the matrix stuff only works if a fighter isn’t talented enough to turn with him. But I don’t know if Mikey understands how good Loma is. Similar to how many don’t know how good GGG is, power power power, that jab tho.
I just want Mikey to come out of this undamaged so Spence and Mikey can be the stars they need to be to make the fights we’re all hoping for.
Spence/Crawford
Mikey/Loma
This is stuff we’ll rewatch 15 years from now
I think yourself and I have been some of the biggest Mikey backers on this site in recent times. I still feel Mikey beats Loma. But I agree, who knows what a devastating loss to Spence could do to Mikey? Would he still be the same? Does it diminish a future Loma fight?
I will say tho that I'm interested to see a Loma/ Commey fight. I think Commey is fighting for the vacant belt on ESPN, so that would lead nicely into a Loma clash.
That would irk me just because I’m tired of seeing great fighters fight for fake belts. It’s become the norm. We all know that’s Mikey’s belt no matter who they wrap it around. Same as all AJs belts are Fury’s same as all Canelo’s belts are Golovkin’s(I suppose that is a redeeming quality of the Fielding fight, two men aren’t fighting for GGGs belts) same as same as same as
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
Especially after the last two Loma fights, I’m even more convinced that Miley beats Loma. Mikey is an elite fighter and is just too big.
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
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powerpuncher
Especially after the last two Loma fights, I’m even more convinced that Miley beats Loma. Mikey is an elite fighter and is just too big.
It's an excellent fight, I just wish we could get it now. I fear we may not get it at all now.
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
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Alpha
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powerpuncher
Especially after the last two Loma fights, I’m even more convinced that Miley beats Loma. Mikey is an elite fighter and is just too big.
It's an excellent fight, I just wish we could get it now. I fear we may not get it at all now.
That’s what I’m afraid of. It’s such a good fight to be made but I’m not at all convinced that it will ever happen. A big reason is that Mikey is barely a lightweight anymore and the longer it takes to make, the more unlikely he will be to be able to make the weight limit.
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
It was refreshing to hear Loma mention Garcia and possibility for a fight. But I'm of the mind of being more concerned about the damage Mikey takes with Spence, the whole weight bouncing around, and still feel it's unnecessary in attempt to find the huge stardom and really short term thinking. Good to see Commey get his shot and he makes for a decent match for either Mikey or Loma. Can't knock Loma for cleaning house vs mandatories or division champs. Fact is boxing is stuffed with 'fake' trinkets and the big names pick them up, pose for a pic and then drop them off like business cards.
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
I like Commey, and I think his size and style could present Loma with another difficult task. In saying that I can also see the scenario where Loma pokes holes all through it.
For me the ideal situation would have been for Mikey to face Commey, then unify with Loma, then step up to face the WBSS 140 winner, even before 147/ Spence comes near the equation. There's plenty of work at 147 for Spence as it is.
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
Didnt see this posted, fun conversation between Spence and Crawford.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcdG-1fPpqE
Spence his own promoter it seems.
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
David Benavidez vs J'Leon Love will be on the Spence-Garcia card.
Interesting match-up, Love will be a good test for Benavidez.
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
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Freedom
David Benavidez vs J'Leon Love will be on the Spence-Garcia card.
Interesting match-up, Love will be a good test for Benavidez.
Benavidez should stop Love, or give him a beating to the final bell.
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
The odds on this fight are closer than I thought they would be. Could be easy money on Spence @Fenster
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
I am supporting Garcia and hope he can pull this off. I enjoy watching Mikey, he is a punch perfect boxer an absolute joy to watch.
I can not think of any current boxer who technically throws as many punches as efficiently as he does.
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
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Master
I am supporting Garcia and hope he can pull this off. I enjoy watching Mikey, he is a punch perfect boxer an absolute joy to watch.
I can not think of any current boxer who technically throws as many punches as efficiently as he does.
Yep I've got to back my boy Garcia. Although I am under no illusions that he is up against it.
Spence disappointed me with his stipulations on when VADA testing could start, he already holds most advantages. Why couldn't testing have started in Nov, instead of from Jan?
For Spence it's one of those no win situation type fights, if he wins, he doesn't get the credit he deserves, if he loses or looks bad the masses will jump ship.
If Mikey wins, it has to be 1 of the best victories in recent memory.
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
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Originally Posted by
Alpha
The odds on this fight are closer than I thought they would be. Could be easy money on Spence @
Fenster
Spence @ 4/1 on is about how I would've had it.
Even though Mikey is giving up the weight you have to respect his skill and P4P credentials. It's not like he's never dealt with big dudes in sparring so I wouldn't be surprised if it's an even fight (by rounds) going into the second half.
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
I'm actually starting to think Mikey KOs Spence.
If this was at 135, I'd bet the house on it.
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
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Originally Posted by
Alpha
I'm actually starting to think Mikey KOs Spence.
If this was at 135, I'd bet the house on it.
135 I could see it because Spence isn’t known for his defense. At 140 Mikey proved to be a good but not great puncher. I don’t see his power at 147 to be enough to keep Spence off of him
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
I'm starting to thing Mikey rides in on his unicorn and negates the natural height, youth, weight and power difference too ;D. Benavidez v Love on the undercard. That will be short and brutal.
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
Chris Arreola and multi cheat Nery on the ppv version of undercard???. This card better be a dollar fifty and no more because it reads like some real one way poundings.
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
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Spicoli
Chris Arreola and multi cheat Nery on the ppv version of undercard???. This card better be a dollar fifty and no more because it reads like some real one way poundings.
Nery in a good fight, but will again have a nice weight/ size advantage :-\
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
I think Mikey will win this one , he has more in every department apart from one punch power.
If Kel Brook can give Spence a fight i think Garcia beats him, he is far superior p4p.
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
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Dark Lord Al
I think Mikey will win this one , he has more in every department apart from one punch power.
If Kel Brook can give Spence a fight i think Garcia beats him, he is far superior p4p.
P4P yes but in reality he is too small. I hope you are right and Garcia does win.
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
As events draw closer you tend to see people become a little more conservative with their picks. Not so keen to back the underdog, stick with the beaten path and all that. There's a fair bit of interest in Mikey pulling this one off which when you see them up close, looks bonkers, it looks like a man against a boy. An exceptional boy no doubt, but there's only so much size his great skill set can compensate for. I think he keeps things interesting for a few rounds, just like Brook did against Golovkin, smaller target, better movement and speed than what the big lump is used too. Then sheer size and will takes over. I think he'll do well to see the final bell.
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
I think Mikey will win this one , he has more in every department apart from one punch power.
If Kel Brook can give Spence a fight i think Garcia beats him, he is far superior p4p.
Brook was able to hurt Spence as well. If Mikey contacts, I think he can take Spence out.
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
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Originally Posted by
Alpha
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
I think Mikey will win this one , he has more in every department apart from one punch power.
If Kel Brook can give Spence a fight i think Garcia beats him, he is far superior p4p.
Brook was able to hurt Spence as well. If Mikey contacts, I think he can take Spence out.
Brook is a big welterweight. Mikey is a small light welterweight. Brook has much more power than Mikey.
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
I give Mikey timing but he'll be far more stationary waiting for it v Spence who goes from range to mixing inside very quickly and while rolling in combos. It's not like Mikey has been hard to touch over tha last few fights and I think it fatal downfall will be him caught in exchanges with Spence. I saw this will be shown in various theaters, that is awesome. Brings back eras gone by.
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
I give Mikey timing but he'll be far more stationary waiting for it v Spence who goes from range to mixing inside very quickly and while rolling in combos. It's not like Mikey has been hard to touch over tha last few fights and I think it fatal downfall will be him caught in exchanges with Spence. I saw this will be shown in various theaters, that is awesome. Brings back eras gone by.
Spence is great at controlling range, but his head and upper body movement leaves a lot to be desired. Mikey is in the biggest challenge of his life here, it's a win/ win fight for him. I can't give him enough credit for taking this huge challenge. I wish more guys would follow suit.
Still not sure if the Nery/ Arroyo fight is set or not?
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
I give Mikey timing but he'll be far more stationary waiting for it v Spence who goes from range to mixing inside very quickly and while rolling in combos. It's not like Mikey has been hard to touch over tha last few fights and I think it fatal downfall will be him caught in exchanges with Spence. I saw this will be shown in various theaters, that is awesome. Brings back eras gone by.
Randy you are for to analytic , I think Garcia will win because I want him to . ;)
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Re: Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
I give Mikey timing but he'll be far more stationary waiting for it v Spence who goes from range to mixing inside very quickly and while rolling in combos. It's not like Mikey has been hard to touch over tha last few fights and I think it fatal downfall will be him caught in exchanges with Spence. I saw this will be shown in various theaters, that is awesome. Brings back eras gone by.
Randy you are for to analytic , I think Garcia will win because I want him to . ;)
Yea, sometimes you have to back your guy, even if everything's stacked against them.
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