Khan didn’t go 9-2 against the opposition you claimed he went 9-2 against. He went 8-3
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Khan didn’t go 9-2 against the opposition you claimed he went 9-2 against. He went 8-3
Pump up Khan all you want. I myself have no problem with him facing Crawford or even DESERVING to face Crawford. But laughingly using Canelo as a measuring stick is ludicrous..... and THIS point apparently sails over blind heads.
The one time Canelo got into the ring with a consummate boxer (Floyd), he wasn't just shut out. He was embarrassed, and answered the question I and many other boxing fans were asking BEFORE the fight......... what business did Canelo have going into the same ring with Floyd Mayweather??!??
So again.... good on Crawford-Khan. May the best man (Crawford) win. Glad that Khan gets a high profile fight, even though he continues to run away from Kell Brook. Khan's mouth also runs more than a Kenyan marathoner, so I'll be rooting for a Crawford KTFO win. But please, PLEEEEEEEASE................. stop using the Canelo-Khan fight as proof that Khan deserves anything. That circus ran exactly as programmed.
Collazo , Alexander and maybe even Algieri were completely washed up and not contenders at the time Khan fought them. they weren't fighting him for World Titles. (Unless you're now gonna try to convince me that "International and Silver" Titles are World titles!)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Hold up mate, you've named Crawford's best wins between 2014-16, right? You chose them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnerathose opponents were a million years ago ffs. At this rate Ricky Hatton could chop his right leg off so he can make the weight, come back and he would be "Arguably Crawford's best win!" :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterSo Crawford's best opponents are -Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraThe point I highlighted was that this will be "arguably Crawford's best win." I'm sorry, but that's bullshit, and that's why I'm arguing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterTake your personal feelings for Khan out of it then pick any fighter on Crawford's record who can boast a winning record of 9-2 against world-class opposition?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carneracome on ffs. While I don’t have much of a problem with this fight , let’s not try to make out that he deserves it . Loads of fights on his record will be better wins than this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
And as for the Canelo thing, he didn’t do anything special and then got spectacularly KO’d as expected.
Canelo
Maidana
Zab
Paulie
Kotelnik
Garcia
Peterson
Alexander
Collazo
Barrera
Algieri
I don't care about "deserve" or even if Khan can win, I am merely pointing out he will be Crawford's biggest and best name. And contrary to what many claim, you quite simply can't beat that many world-class fighters without being seriously top-drawer yourself.
forget about "all our yesterdays" and what he was in the past , at this moment in time I don't see how Khan can be rated in the 10 best WW's on the planet based on what he has ACTUALLY done in the ring of late.
and you're telling me that Crawford beating a guy who isn't even in the top 10 is a better victory than beating a World Champion convincingly for the title in their own Back Yard (Burns) or beating highly ranked opponents like Gamboa , Beltran and Dulorme. Or going up in weight and beating Viktor Postol, or even taking a title from a guy who beat Manny Pacquiao!
Like I said, I'm not against the fight, from Khan's side , because he's fighting a top guy for a World Title, best of luck to him. From Crawford's side , Khan has to be a better opponent than Collazo because Khan beat him.
But let's not hype up Khan , or even perhaps discredit Crawford with comments like this being Crawford's best win.
and finally, again, let's not put all the bells and whistles on Khan's performance against Canelo because he won a fucking round or two. Canelo just stalked Khan a bit like a bull and a matador until Canelo caught up with him. it was ALWAYS GOING TO HAPPEN LIKE THAT!
no disrespect, but This is the same horseshit argument as when people saying Khan was winning against Danny Garcia before he got KO'd!!!!! it's ludicrous.
Normally you can't completely discount a fighter's chances because any Boxer should have a puncher's chance, but I don't even think Khan has that chance.
I honestly believe that the only chance Khan has got is if Crawford gets injured in the fight (shoulder or something) and Khan is fighting an invalid. But good luck to him nonetheless.
Burns - Fought Crawford coming off a loss to Beltran, had previously been battered at British level and post Crawford lost another million fights.
Gamboa - A little featherweight who was forced to move back down in weight after losing and/or struggling with everyone at 135.
Beltran - A solid fringe world-class/journeyman drugs cheat with a million losses.
Dulorme - What the!!! How does he possibly rank any higher than Khan's last opponent - Vargas? Khan literally has a dozen names with better credentials.
Postol - Claim to fame? Forced a shot Matthesye to quit then after getting schooled by Crawford got a 2nd schooling off a British prospect.
Khan's best opponents are littered with "world" champions, unified champions, multi-division champions, lineal champions, current and former P4P and HOF-amers!!!
Canelo
Maidana
Zab
Paulie
Kotelnik
Garcia
Peterson
Alexander
Collazo
Barrera
Algieri
Khan's opposition makes Crawford's look embarrassing. Fact.
During that period Khan fought Collazo, Alexander, Algieri and Canelo?
You quite simply can't deny that Khan has superior credentials to anyone Crawford has faced, whether it be a million years ago or now. Fact.
and what is the fascination with Quoting Canelo all the time? Canelo fucking knocked him out stone fucking cold! how you can use that opponent to make any sort of case for Khan? you do know Khan lost that fight don't You? and how!!!
So yes, Crawford's World Title fights AND WINS were better . And the guys he fought were fighting for the World Title , at least 1 , maybe 2 or 3 were existing Title holders.
in a nutshell, beating Amir Khan at this stage of his career, so long since he had a meaningful fight is NOT one of Crawford's "Best wins" FACT.
Are you saying Canelo is crap because he lost to Floyd? Or just crap regardless? It's not really clear whether or not you hate Canelo?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
That is true, Ron. I don't consider the Peterson loss but officially you're correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
There goes Fonzie over the shark pool ;D. Ok all three adapted styles and found some equal footing and were effective with Khan, can't imagine what another end of it contender like Crawford can hope to do. Love to see Khan come to the new hotbed of Nebraska though, combined fandom would be solid.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterYes he changed his style to pressure Khan to offset the speed. It was great tactics as Khan has struggled with pressure at all levels - novice, British and world. Collazo and Peterson also had success pressuring him after giving up trying to box with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
And now we get to the crux of the matter. DENIAL! nut hugging to the max! ;);DQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterThat is true, Ron. I don't consider the Peterson loss but officially you're correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
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Originally Posted by FensterAre you saying Canelo is crap because he lost to Floyd? Or just crap regardless? It's not really clear whether or not you hate Canelo?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
I shouldn't have to explain this, but I'm not saying he's crap because he lost to Floyd. Many great fighters and boxers have lost to Floyd. It's the way he lost. Try to embrace the concept.
Before the fight, many people including myself questioned why had Canelo "earned the right" to be facing Floyd. After the fight ended and Canelo had barely laid a glove on Floyd, missing by a few feet on occasions, it was like a "See, I told you so" kind of deal.
Hate has nothing to do with it.
So to pump up Khan by simultaneously pumping up Canelo is ridiculous. Did anyone with half a boxing mind doubt that Khan was going to box Canelo's ears off before getting knocked unconscious? Hint: answer "No."
This will be like Crawford-Gamboa. Crawford takes awhile to get going and gets caught early, but I don’t think khan will have enough fire power to stop Terence early, and eventually/ probably relatively early Crawford will take over the fight and stop khan
Terence Crawford, quite arguably one of boxing's pound-for-pound best, returns for the first time in 2019 to put his WBO welterweight championship on the line in taking on former unified junior welterweight champion Amir Khan on Saturday, April 20, at Madison Square Garden in New York City.
After notching a third-round destruction of Julius Indongo in August 2017 to become the undisputed junior welterweight champion, Crawford (34-0, 25 KOs) moved up to 147 pounds last June and hasn't looked back. The 31-year-old battered Jeff Horn to win by ninth-round TKO and capture the WBO belt. He went on to successfully defend the title in October, stopping José Benavidez Jr. with 18 seconds left.
With a lack of challengers at welterweight in the Top Rank stable, Crawford needed someone to help establish him as a force to be reckoned with. Boxing fans wanted Crawford to face IBF titlist Errol Spence Jr. to see who the king of the division and the sport would be. Spence fought Mikey Garcia in March instead, so Crawford went to one of the biggest names in the game.
Enter Amir Khan, the challenger from England.
Khan (33-4, 20 KOs) returns to the United States for the first time since he lost by sixth-round knockout to Saul "Canelo" Alvarez in May 2016. Following the fight, Khan took nearly a two-year hiatus and has beaten Phil LoGreco and Samuel Vargas in his native England.
Khan won the 140-pound WBA title from Andreas Kotelnik in July 2009. The 32-year-old made four straight defenses of the belt before adding the IBF strap in when he scored a fifth-round knockout of Zab Judah in July 2011.
Boxing pundits and fans alike feel Khan has seen his better days, and Crawford will make it look rather easy. Khan possesses the experience and packs a hard enough punch to where he can give Crawford plenty of problems.
Still, can Khan pull off the monumental upset? Or does Crawford continue to exemplify when he's one of the best in the world?
When is the Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan fight?
Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan commences on Saturday, April 20. The main card begins at 9 p.m., with Crawford and Khan expected to make the walk to the ring for the main event at around 11:30 p.m.
How do I watch Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan?
You can watch Crawford vs. Khan on ESPN pay-per-view.
Where is the Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan fight?
Terence Crawford and Amir Khan will fight at Madison Square Garden in New York. Terence Crawford competes in the United States' largest market for the third time, while Khan also fights there for the third time.
Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan betting odds
According to ProBoxingOdds.com, Terence Crawford is a -2000 favorite, which means you'll need to bet $2,000 to win $100. Meanwhile, Khan is a +1200 underdog, meaning if you bet $100, you could win $1,200.
Terence Crawford record and bio
Name: Terence Crawford
Nationality: American
Born: September 28, 1987
Height: 5-8
Reach: 74"
Total fights: 34
Record: 34-0 with 25 knockouts
Amir Khan record and bio
Name: Amir Khan
Nationality: British
Born: December 8, 1986
Height: 5-8 ½
Reach: 71"
Total fights: 37
Record: 33-4 with 20 knockouts
Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan fight card
Matchup Class Belt
Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan Welterweight WBO
Shakur Stevenson vs. Christopher Diaz Featherweight ...
Teofimo Lopez vs. Edis Tatli Lightweight ...
Felix Verdejo vs. Bryan Vasquez Lightweight ...
Carlos Adames vs. Frank Galarza Jr. Middleweight ...
Lawrence Newton vs. Jonathan Garza Bantamweight ...
Vikas Krishan vs. Noah Kidd Jr. Middleweight ...
Edgar Berlanga vs. Samir dos Santos Barbosa Super Middleweight ...
Larry Fryers vs. Dakota Polley Jr. Welterweight ...
https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/ter...204609119.html
But thats true though Primo? Never a loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraAnd now we get to the crux of the matter. DENIAL! nut hugging to the max! ;);DQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterThat is true, Ron. I don't consider the Peterson loss but officially you're correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
Khan go sleep time again
Amir Khan v Terence Crawford: BBC Radio 5 Live to broadcast world title fight
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BBC Radio 5 Live will have live commentary of Amir Khan's fight against WBO welterweight champion Terence Crawford at Madison Square Garden on Sunday morning (around 04:00 BST).
Briton Khan, 32, will be the underdog against the American, 31, who has held world titles in three divisions.
Khan returned to boxing last April after 23 months away from the sport and secured two wins in 2018.
The Olympic silver medallist has a record of 33 wins and four defeats.
BBC boxing correspondent Mike Costello will be joined on commentary by Paulie Malignaggi, who lost to Khan in a world title fight in 2010.
There will be a preview show on Radio 5 Live Sport from 19:00 BST on Thursday and Costello and Bunce boxing podcasts on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Sunday post-fight.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/47967370
won't be paying for this but do i bother getting up to watch it on a stream..........
I am struggling to stay up too, but it is on the radio.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Won't be paying for it but have to hand it to Arum for once with two of boxings top prospects, Lopez and Stevenson, on undercard v very experienced challengers.
It just makes no sense to make it PPV. At least DAZN is just allowing the monthly payment and not make PPVs. Doesn’t make sense to pay for ESPN+ then still have to pay for PPVQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Interested to know why you don’t consider it? Khan cheated throughout the entire fight to have success then EVENTUALLY was punished for his continued cheated to try and continue success. You are not allowed to hold then shove and hit, it’s the rules, he was punished for it. He was rewarded for cheating and punished for cheating, seems fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterThat is true, Ron. I don't consider the Peterson loss but officially you're correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
I think I still had Khan edging it if I recall correctly. Just curious if you had Khan edging it with the deductions or if you think Khan should have been allowed to cheat throughout the entire fight?
Fresh from my winnings on Tiger I have invested £10 on Crawford to win in the first 3 at 5-1Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI am struggling to stay up too, but it is on the radio.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Not tipping either way but Naz he ain't
Lots of action on tonight's card. Already underway in the non-PPV ESPN telecast, and they're announcing some fights I'm particularly interested in.
One is with Christopher Diaz and the other with Felix Verdejo, who hopefully can mount a career comeback.
Right I've got this on but I reckon I'm gunna need an hour power nap if I'm gunna go through to see Khan get KTFO.
Alarm set, see you cats in 60 minutes
I'm with ya there, they're really triple dipping with monthly fee for cable espn too. Arum has helped me miss many Crawford fights live :p. I put in info for espn+ a few months ago and have yet to finish aka pay for a broadcast.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherIt just makes no sense to make it PPV. At least DAZN is just allowing the monthly payment and not make PPVs. Doesn’t make sense to pay for ESPN+ then still have to pay for PPVQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
3,2,1 Annnnd Bradley compares Stevenson to Mayweather. Putting it out early any fine awesome individual with a link is greatly appreciated ;D
Edgar Berlanga..... the Puerto Rican Mike Tyson..... ;D
10-0 (10) and all in the first round. Glad I didn't go to the bathroom once it began.
I am watching fox pbc and 8th round stoppage by Brandon Figueroa
Same hereQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
I just tuned into Fox and all I see are a couple of sumo wrestlers in there.
I'm ready to frisbee fling my tv out the window. @Master I gave you replay times on other thread, the live wasn't advertised. But thanks for the heads up :-X.
Ruiz jnr is very fat and fighting DimitrenkoQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
I've got the ESPN PPV on
wish I would have got myself a pizza to nibble on throughout the night....might need to put some chicken in the oven to tide me over
Terence Crawford vs Amir Khan FREE live stream warning ahead of huge boxing fight
Now I'm sure that this article doesn't apply to any of us here :sneaky:
Verdejo v Vasquez round 6 at the moment
Vazquez hanging tough... but I got Verdejo winning the fight so far. Wondering how far he'll go in his comeback.
draw would be fair
Nah. Verdejo clearly won the fight. He didn't look as sharp as I would've wanted to, but he clearly won the fight.
Stevenson is very quick and wins the first round against Diaz.
Stevenson wins round 2 with his speed again, Diaz just loading up with the right hand.
Not the most exciting fight just yet, looking forward to Teofimo up next
Diaz just stood in front of Stevenson in the 3rd. That's not gonna work.
Stevenson is boxing beautifully in round 3 making Diaz look slow and ponderous