marciano doesnt belongin the same breath as ali

You can't fault Louis or Marciano for their competition they fought the best around and beat them soundly.

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Originally Posted by LawHoops

all he did after missing 3years of his physical prime was come back and beat joe frazier and ken norton two out of three (the loss to norton he fought the majority of the fight with a busted grille), knocked george foreman out when george was in his prime and seemingly indestructible (that was after ali had already lost to frazier and norton and was thought to be thru)

he also had wins over quality guys like floyd patterson (twice), jerry quarry (twice), cleveland williams, ernie terrell, oscar bonavena, george chuvalo, ron lyle, henry cooper (twice overall--once pre liston, once post liston), jimmy ellis, zora folley, buster mathis, joe bugner (twice), chuck wepner, and jimmy young (who ended foremans first career with a legit win over him remember).

oh yeah and rocky marciano beat --in his absolute prime mind you ---thouroghly washed up versions of joe louis, ezzard charles, and joe walcott---oh and dont forget thoise world beaters donny cockell and roland lastarza---two househole names

marciano wasnt good enough to be ali's towel boy............

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You are absolutely right, they should not breath the same air - Ali was a pure loser with 5 or 6 defeats and iron fisted Marciano never tasted the defeat.

Ali was a racist disgrace for his country, Rocco Francis Marchegiano was patriotic

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Originally Posted by Lyle

You can't fault Louis or Marciano for their competition they fought the best around and beat them soundly.

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that sums up perfectly why people should leave them alone(more so marciano than louis) and stop bitchin about opposition

Louis had "The bum of the month club" he knew who he was fighting but he made them look bad..25 successful defenses!!! How many did The Most Overrated Of All-Time(Ali) have?

Marciano survived being cut, being out worked, and being small and an underdog EVERY FIGHT HE HAD!!! Could KO a guy when he needed to and he was a true champion!

Both those guys carried themselves with class unlike Ali who was a loudmouth bastard

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Louis had "The bum of the month club" he knew who he was fighting but he made them look bad..25 successful defenses!!! How many did The Most Overrated Of All-Time(Ali) have?

Marciano survived being cut, being out worked, and being small and an underdog EVERY FIGHT HE HAD!!! Could KO a guy when he needed to and he was a true champion!

Both those guys carried themselves with class unlike Ali who was a loudmouth B******

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Perhaps each man was a product of his times?

I'm not sure Louis would have been able to get a shot at the title if he;d have carried himself in the same way as Ali, and Marciano must have known in himself that he couldn't lay claim to be the Greatest. ;)

I think Ali is hyped up, but to deny the man's record in the ring both as Amateur and Professional is plain stupid.

Ill say this to say Marciano and Ali in the same breath isnt easy so I think he,s got a point