Ruiz $9 Million / AJ $60 Million - Ruiz to be stripped of belts

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Used to be I didn't care who won. Now the more I read the more I'd love for the 2nd fight to end just like the 1st fight or worse.

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I was rooting for AJ to win the rematch destructively because I want the AJ/Wilder fight to happen. But Eddie is such a constant lying dirtbag.... Hard not to root against all his fighters. In the end I will root for AJ, but phony AJ and Eddie make it hard.

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This is what promoters do. It is almost there in the Job description. Arum, King etc were never any different.

Bottom line nobody outside of Ruiz, Joshua and their teams gives a shit about any of the shenanigans outside the ring. Who gets paid what... where the fight's held... and so on and so forth. Joshua's a likable guy, but is making a huge mistake by letting others run his show the way they're doing it.... regardless of what the job description says. His image is on the line.... and better to go down swinging in a rematch (or win and redeem himself)... than to be caught up in this (by now predictable in boxing) huge drama show... while the chubby guy across the pond is holding the belts that used to be his. No "shady decisions" here, ala Fury-Wilder, where it's still a matter of opinion who really won that fight. This was a good, old-fashioned beatdown... and by now Joshua should be willing to anything reasonable just for the chance to get Ruiz back in the ring.

Again..... unless he's having doubts. ;)

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

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Originally Posted by smashup

Anthony Joshua feuds with Lennox Lewis, continues embarrassing himself

https://sports.yahoo.com/anthony-jos...4chiIV6MaGtXyI

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All smiles when winning , true colours shown now things are not 100%.
Will never cheer for this guy again , I hope Ruiz KOS him again.

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Did anyone actually read that and think it was a decent bit of 'journalism'?

Seriously?

The heart of the matter is Joshua's comments towards Lewis. Lewis's career as impressive as it is makes no difference whatsoever to what has been said between Joshua and himself. The 'writer' reels off his victims as if it were some right of passage to say what he wants without question or retribution. How dare anyone question Lennox Lewis, he beat Frans Botha :)

As fine a fighter as he was, Lewis is an awful commentator and boxing observer. Him having a chip on his shoulder over Joshua's career choices, that Lewis hoped at one point would include him is hardly going to add clarity or humility to his comments which have for months, been snide and underhand. Everyone knows it. At least Joshua got to the point and just came out and called him a cunt.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

Bottom line nobody outside of Ruiz, Joshua and their teams gives a shit about any of the shenanigans outside the ring. Who gets paid what... where the fight's held... and so on and so forth. . ;)

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Oh I don't know about that ;D

'Some' people love it.

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

Used to be I didn't care who won. Now the more I read the more I'd love for the 2nd fight to end just like the 1st fight or worse.

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I was rooting for AJ to win the rematch destructively because I want the AJ/Wilder fight to happen. But Eddie is such a constant lying dirtbag.... Hard not to root against all his fighters. In the end I will root for AJ, but phony AJ and Eddie make it hard.

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This is what promoters do. It is almost there in the Job description. Arum, King etc were never any different.

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And I hate Arum and King. But you don’t HAVE to be like that. Al Haymon puts on big fight after big fight, I’ve never once heard the man lie. Shelley Finkell, never heard him lie. And so on. There is money to be made without being a scumbag. It’s in the job description because people don’t stand up to it, they smile at Arum while he lies to them, cowards looking for the next interview, losing stories that are right in front of them.

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

Used to be I didn't care who won. Now the more I read the more I'd love for the 2nd fight to end just like the 1st fight or worse.

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I was rooting for AJ to win the rematch destructively because I want the AJ/Wilder fight to happen. But Eddie is such a constant lying dirtbag.... Hard not to root against all his fighters. In the end I will root for AJ, but phony AJ and Eddie make it hard.

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This is what promoters do. It is almost there in the Job description. Arum, King etc were never any different.

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And I hate Arum and King. But you don’t HAVE to be like that. Al Haymon puts on big fight after big fight, I’ve never once heard the man lie. Shelley Finkell, never heard him lie. And so on. There is money to be made without being a scumbag. It’s in the job description because people don’t stand up to it, they smile at Arum while he lies to them, cowards looking for the next interview, losing stories that are right in front of them.

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You're funny, very funny. You've never seen Al Haymon, let alone heard him speak. Not only are interviews and pictures forbidden but business associates are forbidden
to acknowledge they've met. He funds certain media outlets to constantly throw dirt at his competitors. Scumbag? His reputation is the most ruthless in the business.

And you meant to say - "he puts on in-house fight after fight." Hence PBC pretend Crawford doesn't even exist on their broadcast.

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

Used to be I didn't care who won. Now the more I read the more I'd love for the 2nd fight to end just like the 1st fight or worse.

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I was rooting for AJ to win the rematch destructively because I want the AJ/Wilder fight to happen. But Eddie is such a constant lying dirtbag.... Hard not to root against all his fighters. In the end I will root for AJ, but phony AJ and Eddie make it hard.

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This is what promoters do. It is almost there in the Job description. Arum, King etc were never any different.

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And I hate Arum and King. But you don’t HAVE to be like that. Al Haymon puts on big fight after big fight, I’ve never once heard the man lie. Shelley Finkell, never heard him lie. And so on. There is money to be made without being a scumbag. It’s in the job description because people don’t stand up to it, they smile at Arum while he lies to them, cowards looking for the next interview, losing stories that are right in front of them.

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You're funny, very funny. You've never seen Al Haymon, let alone heard him speak. Not only are interviews and pictures forbidden but business associates are forbidden
to acknowledge they've met. He funds certain media outlets to constantly throw dirt at his competitors. Scumbag? His reputation is the most ruthless in the business.

And you meant to say - "he puts on in-house fight after fight." Hence PBC pretend Crawford doesn't even exist on their broadcast.

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Some evidence of Fenny lying as usual

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6XjNkScYZpE

Took me all of 1 PBC interview to see them talking about Crawford. You’ll only be able to deceive the most uninformed of fans on this occasion. It’s okay Fenny, we all know why you don’t like Al.

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

Used to be I didn't care who won. Now the more I read the more I'd love for the 2nd fight to end just like the 1st fight or worse.

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I was rooting for AJ to win the rematch destructively because I want the AJ/Wilder fight to happen. But Eddie is such a constant lying dirtbag.... Hard not to root against all his fighters. In the end I will root for AJ, but phony AJ and Eddie make it hard.

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This is what promoters do. It is almost there in the Job description. Arum, King etc were never any different.

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And I hate Arum and King. But you don’t HAVE to be like that. Al Haymon puts on big fight after big fight, I’ve never once heard the man lie. Shelley Finkell, never heard him lie. And so on. There is money to be made without being a scumbag. It’s in the job description because people don’t stand up to it, they smile at Arum while he lies to them, cowards looking for the next interview, losing stories that are right in front of them.

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You're funny, very funny. You've never seen Al Haymon, let alone heard him speak. Not only are interviews and pictures forbidden but business associates are forbidden
to acknowledge they've met. He funds certain media outlets to constantly throw dirt at his competitors. Scumbag? His reputation is the most ruthless in the business.

And you meant to say - "he puts on in-house fight after fight." Hence PBC pretend Crawford doesn't even exist on their broadcast.

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Took me all of 1 PBC interview to see them talking about Crawford. You’ll only be able to deceive the most uninformed of fans on this occasion. It’s okay Fenny, we all know why you don’t like Al.

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Yes because i'm a boxing fan not a promoter fan boy.

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

They smile at Arum while he lies to them, cowards looking for the next interview, losing stories that are right in front of them

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Post a Al Haymon interview? Just one. Don't you understand how silly it is to claim Keyser Soze (an invisible man) is a saint whilst everyone else are sinners?

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

Took me all of 1 PBC interview to see them talking about Crawford. You’ll only be able to deceive the most uninformed of fans on this occasion.

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That's not evidence, it's merely Errol Spence (a fighter) saying Crawford's name.

This is evidence - Al Haymon/PBC whitewashing Crawford out of existence on last months Pac-Thurman broadcast (their biggest fight of the year).

The four welterweight champions broadcast were - Porter, Pac, Thurman and Spence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDQnOZ1Ly90&t=283s

Here's Crawford (an Arum/ESPN fighter on DAZN/Eddie/Oscar) addressing the PBC whitewash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KXLNfBPnAE&t=8s

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

Took me all of 1 PBC interview to see them talking about Crawford. You’ll only be able to deceive the most uninformed of fans on this occasion.

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That's not evidence, it's merely Errol Spence (a fighter) saying Crawford's name.

This is evidence - Al Haymon/PBC whitewashing Crawford out of existence on last months Pac-Thurman broadcast (their biggest fight of the year).

The four welterweight champions broadcast were - Porter, Pac, Thurman and Spence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDQnOZ1Ly90&t=283s

Here's Crawford (an Arum/ESPN fighter on DAZN/Eddie/Oscar) addressing the PBC whitewash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KXLNfBPnAE&t=8s

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It’s quite literally not “merely Errol Spence(a fighter) saying Crawford’s name”, it’s a PBC interview as you can tell with the Fox PBC logo behind them talking about Crawford with a GRAPHIC including Crawford FFS. Is your lying compulsive or do you pick when you lie? Do you think people won’t watch so they won’t see you are quite clearly, quite blatantly lying to build your narrative as you regularly do?

I’ll extend an olive branch and show you how this conversation could have gone. You could have made your statement, I could provide my video showing your statement as patently false, and you could have said “well, yes, I was exaggerating to the point of absurdity. But there are instances where the PBC does ignore Crawford” and then provided your videos. You would have made your point in a dignified manner. Doubling down on the lie is just not the way.

HBO did that whole white washing of other top fighters all the time. They'd list their pre fight division top challengers for future consideration and sure enough they'd all be network fighters. Love it when a fighter goes off script and strays from the talking points like Spence does. Gervonta Davis too when Grey tried to talk 'Showtime meeting with Mares maybe' ??? in the interview and he went straight to Davis went straight to Farmer.

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

I’ll extend an olive branch and show you how this conversation could have gone. You could have made your statement, I could provide my video showing your statement as patently false, and you could have said “well, yes, I was exaggerating to the point of absurdity. But there are instances where the PBC does ignore Crawford” and then provided your videos. You would have made your point in a dignified manner. Doubling down on the lie is just not the way.

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I'll accept the olive branch, however, I'll show you how the conservation should have gone.

Ron Swanson - "Fenster, you're correct, the evidence you've provided is bombproof, but I think you're a full blown cunt, therefore, fuck you and the horse you rode in on."

Respect.

Back to Ruiz-Joshua...... seems to me Tyson Fury's doing a hell of a lot of talking about these two. Many times Fury talks a lot of shit, but this time he may be on to something.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/97464...ch-tyson-fury/

"Andy Ruiz Jr ‘hasn’t trained for TWO months’ ahead of Anthony Joshua rematch, claims Tyson Fury"



Whether or not it's true I have no idea. But it wouldn't surprise me to learn that Ruiz has undertrained for the rematch, as opposed to AJ who I would imagine is training his ass off to avoid another humiliation.

If that's true, all bets are off, and Fury's totally on point comparing Ruiz to a current day "Buster Douglas."

On the other hand it's not that difficult to think of Ruiz undertraining..... all one has to do is take a good look at his chiseled physique.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

Back to Ruiz-Joshua...... seems to me Tyson Fury's doing a hell of a lot of talking about these two. Many times Fury talks a lot of shit, but this time he may be on to something.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/97464...ch-tyson-fury/

"Andy Ruiz Jr ‘hasn’t trained for TWO months’ ahead of Anthony Joshua rematch, claims Tyson Fury"



Whether or not it's true I have no idea. But it wouldn't surprise me to learn that Ruiz has undertrained for the rematch, as opposed to AJ who I would imagine is training his ass off to avoid another humiliation.

If that's true, all bets are off, and Fury's totally on point comparing Ruiz to a current day "Buster Douglas."

On the other hand it's not that difficult to think of Ruiz undertraining..... all one has to do is take a good look at his chiseled physique.

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Yeah, he could be onto something......or he could just be stirring the pot , just like he usually does.
I just had to laugh when he said “he won one fight,big deal, now he’s not training and cruising around in a Rolls-Royce and eating tacos.”
Hmmmm........Mr.Pot is definitely calling that kettle black!
I would love to see if he actually said it with a straight face. ;D;D;D

Rich coming from a guy collecting cans. Fury could come in a gloved ajax sniffing version of the Mardi Gras float he was prior to come back and still see a Tom Swift and Kenny Gittup..whatever the guys name is next..fall over from a stiff wind.

Ruiz a ova night diva ;D;D;D

However hypocritical it is coming from Fury, he could have a point. Ruiz should be taking this fight more seriously than the first, as the rematch clause seems like it was already agreed upon and his chance to make really big money would be after this, should he win. Buying a rolls Royce after his first big payday without any guarantee of more is such a typical dumbass move. Do these guys never think of how many athletes do the same thing and wind up broke before they can even retire, or how many people are worth far more and wouldn't think of buying things like that..

True that. Having to turn in that Rolls at a pawn shop would NOT be a good look for Ruiz.

I dunno I guess it's like winning the lottery and he is guaranteed another one to follow. Different strokes for different folks I guess. Me I wouldn't toss that kind of money on anything material or 'temporary' but I'd def buy Mum a new home like he did. If only. Just hope that house has a bigger price tag than a purple Rolls that'll depreciate. Hopefully he surrounds himself with people who speak truth and doesn't look back 20 yrs from now trying to sell his belts like more than a few have had to.

Matchroom-Andy Ruiz Lawsuit Update -

https://fightnews.com/matchroom-file...ndy-ruiz/52634

Old news. Ruiz has apparently agreed to the new terms (Hearn added another $1 million), signed the papers...... and the lawsuit's off.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2019/08...alize-rematch/

Of course that's NOW. Who's to know how it'll be tomorrow. :-X

In seriousness, its a shit location to have the fight. Disregarding the time zone(not so bad for the UK fans), who is going to travel there? Only the absolute high rollers would think of it. No working class Brits, no Mexicans, Americans, zero women. Not hearing the crowd is fine if youre a hardcore just watching the fight(like Tito said, they may need to put in an applause track), but the atmosphere wont be half of what it would in either fighters home country or in America. Fitting that bloodsport is the Saudis way of trying to enter the 18th century though I suppose.