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Lots of talk about adjustments from the experts. Stock line for a rematch I guess, air time or column inches won't fill themselves. Not going to happen is it, neither will do anything differently, they cant. Fury has talked the talk about going for the knockout, he wont, it's not who he is or what he does. He's made routine fights look competitive in the past due to his insistence on doing things a certain way. He's not going to change in the face of a bloke with a cannon in his hand. Wilder is Wilder, wont change, doesn't need to, doesn't know how to. I'm sure he's been working on his technical limitations over the years but it's been pretty much a waste of time hasn't it? Wilder is simple, turn up in shape, look for that right hand earlier in the fight and don't let Fury off the hook.
Fury washed into the first fight on a wave of all sorts of emotions that empowered him. The weight loss, the mental health issues, the young untested trainer, the diving in at the deep end after two low key return fights. He turned all those things on their head and put in a great performance and won the first fight, no doubting that. Lot's of parallels here. Two less than great fights against less than great opposition. For different reasons his mental state is being questioned what with the WWE stuff and essentially having one eye on life after boxing. Again a new training setup. The first fight he was on a hiding to nothing. This time around he expects and those who back him expect. If he could do that first time around a 'fully fit' Tyson will win the rematch easy.
After all that waffle you still come down to Fury points or Wilder KO right? ;D I have a feeling Wilder will get the job done this time.
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Yeah as a Fury fan I'm abit concerned that in a fight between an American and and Englishman in America they have 3 American judges and an American referee. No wonder Tyson says he needs a KO. However the same thing happend with Lewis and holyfield after the draw in their first fight and Lewis got a decision more comfortably than perhaps his performance deserved
In a true 50-50 fight the poll has it 10-10 and 1 draw.
Hagler v Leonard power punches v volume it's objective boxing in what you like.!
Fury and Wilder in the first fight Fury hit him 3 or 4 to to 1 Wilder needed a ko really not a knock down. I think most people enjoyed the first fight very rarely rematches live up to expectations.
Fury is going to be fitter and he says he will let more power punches go.
Wilder is more than capable of throwing more jabs and being busier with the ATOMIC BOMBS.
This really is a very interesting fight and very hard to pick due to the fact both fighters should have learned from fighting each other.
Wouldn't be surprised if the fight goes to either man, but if I have to pick a winner I will say Wilder inside 11.
I'm not sure about Fury's tactics that more weight will absorb Wilder's heavy punches? The closer we get to this fight and having watched the first fight again i'm leaning more to Wilder. Fury out-boxed him last time, but still got caught twice, i have a nasty feeling if he gets caught just once by Wilder in this fight he won't beat the count. Fury must land big in the first few rounds or face and ugly ending.
The world heavyweight boxers come face-to-face again ahead of their rematch on Saturday for tonight’s weigh-in, which is due to start at 3pm local time in Las Vegas. That’s an 11pm start time here in the UK.
In their first bout back in December 2018, Wilder weighed-in lighter and leaner than Fury, registering 212 ½ pounds on the scales compared to Fury’s 256 ½ pounds.
Still, that was Fury’s lightest since returning to the ring, but we can expect a heavier weight today having switched trainers from Ben Davison to SugarHill Steward.
Extra weight would provide added protection to Wilder’s fierce right hand, and Fury boasts some of the best footwork in the business.
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Wilder will target eye in rematch
Deontay Wilder told Tyson Fury "we know your secrets" ahead of their rematch as the heavyweight world champion aims to expose a cut the challenger sustained in his last fight.
The highly-anticipated second bout appeared to be in danger of being delayed when Fury suffered a deep cut during the third round of his points win over Otto Wallin in September.
Fury later claimed he needed 40 stitches for the wound and it was noted by Wilder that he wore sunglasses during Wednesday's news conference.
The Briton's cutman Jacob 'Stitch' Duran has since revealed Fury has had mesh web inserted into the soft tissue above his eye but stressed "it won't be an issue" in Las Vegas on Saturday.
However, Wilder believes the problem is more serious than Fury or his camp are letting on.
"That's definitely something that I'm targeting," he said.
"When a fighter has a wound that, we feel, is not all the way healed - no matter what he says - because as a fighter being in here, as a veteran being in the game, you see so many different things and you can acknowledge a lot of things and you know.
"It's like him coming to the press conference, he changed up something. He wore a hood and he wore glasses. He's covering up something. Fury, we know your secrets. We know what's going on.
"That was just one of those things where he was just trying to cover up.
"He didn't want me to see how severe the cut was. You hear all the rumours as well that he didn't allow his sparring partners to hit him in the face, they just did body sparring and different things like that.
"That just shows a strong indication that something happened in that camp, something happened with his eye.
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"Credit to him, he's a warrior, he's still coming, he's still trying to cover it up and come Saturday night is going to be ready to show up and present himself as, what he calls himself, the lineal champion."
Wilder will be denied the chance to have a closer inspection of Fury's eye on Friday as the traditional pre-fight face-off at the weigh-in has been cancelled after the pair confronted each other on stage on Wednesday.
WBC champion Wilder, whose record stands at 42 wins and one draw from his 43 fights, will be hoping to make the 11th successful defence of his title.
The only time he did not emerge victorious was in the original meeting with Fury back in December which ended in a contentious draw.
Of Fury's 30 fights, that was the only bout he has not won too.
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watched part 2 of the Fury documentary last night on ITV.
Cut aside you forget how bad Fury was in his last fight. His dad watching back home was fuming knowing he was weight drained and boxing the worst he'd ever seen him box.
The scene at breakfast the morning of the fight when Fury tells the team he's well under his ideal weight it's like they're baffled.
It's proven that the better the opponent then then the better Fury performs though so let's hope this is the case.
He's going to have to survive at least one bomb............
Furys trainer is now saying he's not 100% fit.
He doesn't say what or why though.
Could be mind games?
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I was going to stick a couple of quid on Wilder to KO Fury between the 4th and 6th rounds, I just couldn't bring myself to do it, mainly because I don't wanna see the big oaf lose but also out of respect for Ross, I wonder what that mad bastard is up to these days, I'll bet he's got front row tickets for the fight.
fury will use the excuse that he wanted to come in heavier, it will be a lie
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deontay 231, tyson 273. wilder looks in great condition. starting to question my pick
Didn't realize Wilder was coming in with added weight also and looks all muscle. Something tells me it's not in his legs. Can't imagine it'll benefit what is already on and off stamina especially for a guy who wings the majority from left field and doesn't have the best balance doing so. Really wondering if Fury may well try to glue himself to Wilders chest wrestling like a circus bear early to wear him down a bit.
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Looks like it yeh. I might be overthinking it. Would be interesting if Fury tried to smother rather than on the tip of the tnt. How often does Wilder even work the body let alone count on the backfoot to pull off and away for short punches. Then again the last time I saw Tyson that tight winging uppercuts he managed to punch himself right between the eyes :-X.Quote:
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Originally Posted by SpicoliLooks like it yeh. I might be overthinking it. Would be interesting if Fury tried to smother rather than on the tip of the tnt. How often does Wilder even work the body let alone count on the backfoot to pull off and away for short punches. Then again the last time I saw Tyson that tight winging uppercuts he managed to punch himself right between the eyes :-X.Quote:
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I’m won’t be surprised for either fighter to win. I’m thinking Wilder gets him though. I don’t think Fury’s mind is in it. I could be wrong though
Fury said the he injured both legs and both ankles early in training, but he won't be affected because it was so early in camp.
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Wilder by stoppage. I don't believe anything a fighter says before a fight, especially Fury with the 10 wanks a day routine.
Lennox had it right. We’ll know after the first two rounds which Tyson Fury we have and that should tell us how it will go.
Would be a real shame if that cut comes into play.
Let’s hope we get something conclusive at least - but I’ll be gutted if Tyson loses.
Friday’s weigh-in saw Fury come in at a huge 273lbs ahead of this weekend’s WBC heavyweight title showdown.
Wilder also packed on the pounds, hitting the scales at 231lbs – the heaviest of his professional career.
The Nevada State Athletic Commission made the decision to scrap a final face-off between the two after sparks flew midweek.
Next time they come face-to-face will be in the ring on Saturday.
Calzaghe - Fury will win on points
Former two-weight world champion Joe Calzaghe believes Tyson Fury will triumph on points tonight... if he 'boxes smart'.
"Tyson Fury is much better technically but Deontay Wilder is always going to be dangerous," he told the Mail. "If he boxes smart for 12 round I fancy Fury to win on points.
"Will he have to get off the floor again? Possibly!"
In a Las Vegas hotel somewhere, Tyson Fury will be in the middle of what I imagine might be a fairly sleepless night.
It's currently half-past-midnight in Nevada, though, so I suspect there won't be too many others tucked up in bed. More likely sat round a roulette table.
Anyway, it's bright and early in the UK and we'll have all the latest build-up throughout the day as we move towards fight night.
Wilder: Fury is nervous
“I said to him he’s nervous. He’s changed his trainers, he’s dipping his hands in gasoline.
"I can’t wait. I told him 24 hours!”
Fury happy with weight
"The weight's not a problem. It's 273 pounds of pure British beef."
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One of the worst outcomes would be if it gets stopped because Fury’s cut opens up again. I really hope that isn’t the case.
Charles Martin does not appear to be in good shape.
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Fight talk actually made a local radio talk show this morning. Pretty surprising. Apparently Wilder is "literally the next Mike Tyson and will surpass Holyfield and Mike in American star power and records" :cwm13:
the 'hype' is strong with this one.
Any word on the testing for this fight? Wilder's belt is on the line so you would assume VADA and the clean boxing program would have to be in place right?
Fury jab the chest and take out wilder small body.
By late rounds just jab wilder to a pulp.
Still think Wilder should come out aggressive and force the pace, even more so with Fury's added weight and outside the ring distractions.
Fury came in at 273 pounds. Means he isn't trained up for this fight and he has sluggy food in his system. Wilder KO by 8 or 9, Fury tries to get up from a big shot but unable to.
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If the fight gets stopped on Fury's cut, it gives built in reasons for the supposedly already agreed upon 3rd fight.
Good evening!! Watching the Subriel Matias fight vs the Russian. Glad I didn't miss it!! ;D ;D
The Russian shaking his head "no" with every punch he takes. Maybe he thinks the judges award points for that. ;D
Shit. Subriel hurt in the 8th. This little Russian is one tough dude.
Matias was almost out.
I think Matias still takes the decision. Tough fight though.
Could go either way.
I had it 95-94 Matias.