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A second property? What if someone else wanted to buy it and the supply is limited? Is that fair?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
A property. Providing a roof over someone's head. (:Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfWhat is an ethical investment then?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzGold is not an ethical investment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
It was a small flat and it provided a home for people who were not in a position to get on the housing ladder. Now it has gone to someone who managed to get a mortgage. It's not rocket science and is far less boring than fucking stocks, shares and watches.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfA second property? What if someone else wanted to buy it and the supply is limited? Is that fair?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzA property. Providing a roof over someone's head. (:Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfWhat is an ethical investment then?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzGold is not an ethical investment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
You guys are near terminally dull.
So beanz says gold isn’t an ethical investment. Dude has no clue. It’s not an investment to begin with. It’s a hedge. A preservation move. What is unethical about one of the oldest forms of currency amongst humans? Didn’t England scour the world and enslave millions for gold and other commodities? I hope all the statues of kings are out of England as England brought slavery to the United States and every other part of the world they touched, what did England invade about 90% of the worlds land overtime? So now all stocks are lame, what about reit or realestate etfs are they bad. I mean they are stocks but comprised of realestate, how does that work. About 50% of Americans are in the market, probably a little more, are they all dumb and lame or is it just me? Does that hold true for the Nikki and all the other markets or just the US? I would think unethical investments are Monsanto and certain “sin” stocks as they call them. Perhaps stocks related to the military industrial complex. But I guess you have the good and bad thing pretty well covered. I’m glad things are so simple for you. Watches are bad but cameras are good. I’d much rather be able to tell what time it is that take an edgy picture of some old smelly boots that look like shit to begin with. A zoom boot special.
Walrus, you said this thread would get some action going. You are Nostradamus.
Isn't that the case with most renters? How is that ethical? It sounds like you exploited them while the home appreciated. You could have made it really ethical by letting them live there free and just take the house appreciation meanwhile letting them build up for a deposit. You wanted the money, didn't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzIt was a small flat and it provided a home for people who were not in a position to get on the housing ladder. Now it has gone to someone who managed to get a mortgage. It's not rocket science and is far less boring than fucking stocks, shares and watches.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfA second property? What if someone else wanted to buy it and the supply is limited? Is that fair?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzA property. Providing a roof over someone's head. (:Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfWhat is an ethical investment then?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzGold is not an ethical investment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
You guys are near terminally dull.
What the fuck are you talking about? I am not responsible for 'most renters'. This is your problem. You generalize and put people in huge groups. Identity Politics. It is sickening.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfIsn't that the case with most renters? How is that ethical? It sounds like you exploited them while the home appreciated. You could have made it really ethical by letting them live there free and just take the house appreciation meanwhile letting them build up for a deposit. You wanted the money, didn't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzIt was a small flat and it provided a home for people who were not in a position to get on the housing ladder. Now it has gone to someone who managed to get a mortgage. It's not rocket science and is far less boring than fucking stocks, shares and watches.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfA second property? What if someone else wanted to buy it and the supply is limited? Is that fair?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzA property. Providing a roof over someone's head. (:Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfWhat is an ethical investment then?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzGold is not an ethical investment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
You guys are near terminally dull.
Immigrants
Disabled
Black People
Single Mothers
As though there is not one individual among them. All good or all bad for you.
You rent property out yourself. Do you exploit your tenants?
We were tenants for years ourselves and so made sure we were as fair as we could be as landlords. We could not afford to let people live there free. That doesn't make us bastards.
You sound like bitter Mr Cushty 4 hrs a day nothing better to do but be a keyboard warrior.
Dude is this a joke. You just did some major projection there. Is this sarcasm. I mean you just labeled miles for the shit you do everyday. I actually thought miles wrote it about you. This is getting bizzare.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzWhat the fuck are you talking about? I am not responsible for 'most renters'. This is your problem. You generalize and put people in huge groups. Identity Politics. It is sickening.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfIsn't that the case with most renters? How is that ethical? It sounds like you exploited them while the home appreciated. You could have made it really ethical by letting them live there free and just take the house appreciation meanwhile letting them build up for a deposit. You wanted the money, didn't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzIt was a small flat and it provided a home for people who were not in a position to get on the housing ladder. Now it has gone to someone who managed to get a mortgage. It's not rocket science and is far less boring than fucking stocks, shares and watches.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfA second property? What if someone else wanted to buy it and the supply is limited? Is that fair?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzA property. Providing a roof over someone's head. (:Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfWhat is an ethical investment then?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzGold is not an ethical investment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
You guys are near terminally dull.
Immigrants
Disabled
Black People
Single Mothers
As though there is not one individual among them. All good or all bad for you.
You rent property out yourself. Do you exploit your tenants?
We were tenants for years ourselves and so made sure we were as fair as we could be as landlords. We could not afford to let people live there free. That doesn't make us bastards.
You sound like bitter Mr Cushty 4 hrs a day nothing better to do but be a keyboard warrior.
Miles some people are as reliable as one of my omega watchesQuote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
What do those groups have to do with this topic? I sense a man trying to pivot and distort. Of course there are good people in any group. Do you have a point there? 👀Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzWhat the fuck are you talking about? I am not responsible for 'most renters'. This is your problem. You generalize and put people in huge groups. Identity Politics. It is sickening.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfIsn't that the case with most renters? How is that ethical? It sounds like you exploited them while the home appreciated. You could have made it really ethical by letting them live there free and just take the house appreciation meanwhile letting them build up for a deposit. You wanted the money, didn't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzIt was a small flat and it provided a home for people who were not in a position to get on the housing ladder. Now it has gone to someone who managed to get a mortgage. It's not rocket science and is far less boring than fucking stocks, shares and watches.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfA second property? What if someone else wanted to buy it and the supply is limited? Is that fair?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzA property. Providing a roof over someone's head. (:Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfWhat is an ethical investment then?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzGold is not an ethical investment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
You guys are near terminally dull.
Immigrants
Disabled
Black People
Single Mothers
As though there is not one individual among them. All good or all bad for you.
You rent property out yourself. Do you exploit your tenants?
We were tenants for years ourselves and so made sure we were as fair as we could be as landlords. We could not afford to let people live there free. That doesn't make us bastards.
You sound like bitter Mr Cushty 4 hrs a day nothing better to do but be a keyboard warrior.
I rent out for the money and am very fair. We let the couple renting now finish their contract early as they were having money issues. We let them pay late several times before they finally explained and we let them off the final rent payment having found new tenants. I am a very reasonable person. A landlord needs to be considerate.
I am not making these weird claims about ethics. That is you.
Shouldn't you be working Walrus? It's 5am there and I thought you were on night shift. Probably best not to let your mind wander. Eh?
Yes it’s 6am now 2hrs to go were you trying to evade some questions? Or is keyboard warrior just for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
What those groups have to do with the topic is that they are made up of individuals. You never treat them as such just like you comparing me to most landlords. You are the one pivoting. You just accused me and my Mrs of exploiting people, or did you conveniently forget that bit? You have never done anything but distort because you are warped. Look how you can ascribe good intentions to yourself but with anyone else you always like to assume the worst of people. You don't know me and yet here you are assuming that i am some morally redundant edge lord cunt like you.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfWhat do those groups have to do with this topic? I sense a man trying to pivot and distort. Of course there are good people in any group. Do you have a point there? ������Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzWhat the fuck are you talking about? I am not responsible for 'most renters'. This is your problem. You generalize and put people in huge groups. Identity Politics. It is sickening.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfIsn't that the case with most renters? How is that ethical? It sounds like you exploited them while the home appreciated. You could have made it really ethical by letting them live there free and just take the house appreciation meanwhile letting them build up for a deposit. You wanted the money, didn't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzIt was a small flat and it provided a home for people who were not in a position to get on the housing ladder. Now it has gone to someone who managed to get a mortgage. It's not rocket science and is far less boring than fucking stocks, shares and watches.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfA second property? What if someone else wanted to buy it and the supply is limited? Is that fair?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzA property. Providing a roof over someone's head. (:Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfWhat is an ethical investment then?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzGold is not an ethical investment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
You guys are near terminally dull.
Immigrants
Disabled
Black People
Single Mothers
As though there is not one individual among them. All good or all bad for you.
You rent property out yourself. Do you exploit your tenants?
We were tenants for years ourselves and so made sure we were as fair as we could be as landlords. We could not afford to let people live there free. That doesn't make us bastards.
You sound like bitter Mr Cushty 4 hrs a day nothing better to do but be a keyboard warrior.
I rent out for the money and am very fair. We let the couple renting now finish their contract early as they were having money issues. We let them pay late several times before they finally explained and we let them off the final rent payment having found new tenants. I am a very reasonable person. A landlord needs to be considerate.
I am not making these weird claims about ethics. That is you.
Are you Gandalf's PA now? You didn't ask any questions. No wonder your co-worker had to leave with your creepy attitude and aggressive paranoia. You sure you are not one of the residents? ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusYes it’s 6am now 2hrs to go were you trying to evade some questions? Or is keyboard warrior just for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
I see ur big on saying “your assuming things about me” etc. do you realize you have been doing that for years. See there is a difference here, you are harping on the grumpy thing but I identified and admitted I’m grumpy because I helped someone out by agreeing to take an overnight shift. As far as the girl goes, she had that interview before I started here so I don’t think I was the cause of her leaving. I’m wearing a mask right now that she sewed at home for me. So you assumed a few things there that were a bit off the mark. I have a half hour to go, I’m in the home stretch now I’m good. Will you be going around collecting rent today, snapping pics, writing for the guardian or just fucking about insulting people and crying when you get it back.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzAre you Gandalf's PA now? You didn't ask any questions. No wonder your co-worker had to leave with your creepy attitude and aggressive paranoia. You sure you are not one of the residents? ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusYes it’s 6am now 2hrs to go were you trying to evade some questions? Or is keyboard warrior just for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Stop waffling. You rent out your home to bring in some revenue. It is nothing to do with ethics. You know that whence me ribbing you. You do your best to be a fair and decent landlord but it is a transaction at the end of the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzWhat those groups have to do with the topic is that they are made up of individuals. You never treat them as such just like you comparing me to most landlords. You are the one pivoting. You just accused me and my Mrs of exploiting people, or did you conveniently forget that bit? You have never done anything but distort because you are warped. Look how you can ascribe good intentions to yourself but with anyone else you always like to assume the worst of people. You don't know me and yet here you are assuming that i am some morally redundant edge lord cunt like you.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfWhat do those groups have to do with this topic? I sense a man trying to pivot and distort. Of course there are good people in any group. Do you have a point there? ������Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzWhat the fuck are you talking about? I am not responsible for 'most renters'. This is your problem. You generalize and put people in huge groups. Identity Politics. It is sickening.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfIsn't that the case with most renters? How is that ethical? It sounds like you exploited them while the home appreciated. You could have made it really ethical by letting them live there free and just take the house appreciation meanwhile letting them build up for a deposit. You wanted the money, didn't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzIt was a small flat and it provided a home for people who were not in a position to get on the housing ladder. Now it has gone to someone who managed to get a mortgage. It's not rocket science and is far less boring than fucking stocks, shares and watches.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfA second property? What if someone else wanted to buy it and the supply is limited? Is that fair?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzA property. Providing a roof over someone's head. (:Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfWhat is an ethical investment then?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzGold is not an ethical investment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
You guys are near terminally dull.
Immigrants
Disabled
Black People
Single Mothers
As though there is not one individual among them. All good or all bad for you.
You rent property out yourself. Do you exploit your tenants?
We were tenants for years ourselves and so made sure we were as fair as we could be as landlords. We could not afford to let people live there free. That doesn't make us bastards.
You sound like bitter Mr Cushty 4 hrs a day nothing better to do but be a keyboard warrior.
I rent out for the money and am very fair. We let the couple renting now finish their contract early as they were having money issues. We let them pay late several times before they finally explained and we let them off the final rent payment having found new tenants. I am a very reasonable person. A landlord needs to be considerate.
I am not making these weird claims about ethics. That is you.
In the UK people generally struggle to save for a deposit so in that sense owning a second home was not exactly an act of altruism on your part. It was a business transaction and good for you.
You miss the part where I CONSTANTLY say we should treat people as individuals but just not live in ignorance of group differences. Stop assuming what people think and ask them directly. I will answer directly.
Currently my home is rented by a group home. They have 4 clients and 24hr staffing. It has been great they are very low maintenance. I need to talk to them as the lease is coming due. I hope they re sign but I’ll find out this week.
Beanz is right that a roof over one's head is the key, and the only key.
***BINGO***Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzAre you Gandalf's PA now? You didn't ask any questions. No wonder your co-worker had to leave with your creepy attitude and aggressive paranoia. You sure you are not one of the residents? ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusYes it’s 6am now 2hrs to go were you trying to evade some questions? Or is keyboard warrior just for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
I nominate this as post of the year.
The creepy soyboy walrus grossed her out and drove the girl away. I knew it would happen after a little while.
Glad you are having fun Brock. You know I saw this play out from your first post when you already had beanz on your friends list. You can continue with the BS as I know it’s just how you operate. I’m not returning fire calling you a piece of shit and the many other things you call me. Have fun with you new buddies, I interacted with you and beanz for a couple days just to see where things are at and I see they are unpleasant as usual. So this is your thing. You made it back here after all these years and this is how you choose to act. Very bizzare to me but I’m glad you are enjoying it. Continue on but for your info I don’t pm or email anyone trying to incite things against you or impeach your character, I don’t play like that. You continue on doing what you do and maybe I’ll interact with you guys in a few months, and we can do it again. Peace be with you until then.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell***BINGO***Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzAre you Gandalf's PA now? You didn't ask any questions. No wonder your co-worker had to leave with your creepy attitude and aggressive paranoia. You sure you are not one of the residents? ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusYes it’s 6am now 2hrs to go were you trying to evade some questions? Or is keyboard warrior just for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
I nominate this as post of the year.
The creepy soyboy walrus grossed her out and drove the girl away. I knew it would happen after a little while.
you are beyond paranoid. Seek help. Nobody is PMing about you to attack you. Sorry to disappoint. Your imagination is out of control. Peace be with you too.
Damn about a year and a half, maybe two years ago I bought a (new to me) used car. I ended up renting a car and driving to another state to buy one as it was several thousand difference in price. While I was car shopping I checked out carvana, the online car dealership. You pick the car out online, review all the pictures and specs, they deliver and you have a certain number of days to drive the car around and if you don’t like it you can return it. Anyway I thought it was a cool idea, there were a lot of fees added on during the process so I didn’t end up purchasing anything from them but I never forgot the idea. I said to my wife, “we should buy stock in this company.” I think it was trading around 12 bucks at the time. I looked at the financials and the ratings at the time and they were generally pretty bad. So we passed, it’s not like you can buy every stock you want. Anyway I just saw on the financial channel the stock is around 235 bucks a share. It has a 52 week low of 22 dollars a share so most of those gains are in the last year. A COVID friendly stock if you will. Had I bought it back then it obviously would have worked out well.
I also screwed up on peloton. That company that sells workout equipment and everyone is working out online. My wife bought some shares. I got a little mad (showed her the fundamentals they were losing 20 cents a share) suggested she sell some ASAP. Well she sold most at a profit but now. Because of covid, the stock just keeps pumping. She held on to a few shares. Mind you this is just a side hustle we are into. We just play around with it no earth shattering amounts are flowing through our accounts.
Individual stocks are risky anyway. I had a talk with someone recently. Someone much more into the market than I. He has been nailing it, especially on down days. He moves quick and often. But this dude did it professionally for a number of years and now just does it on his own. He was saying it’s hard to really enjoy market gains with so much suffering going on. It really is. The financial impact of Covid, the shutdown, the fear, it really is hurting many more millions than the disease itself is. That’s not a political statement just a fact.
So anyway just one of those things. I babbled on a bit but really I was just thinking about carvana. I think that’s another thing that makes the market fun, all the what if’s.
Now Disney lays off 28,000 and the airlines another 30,000.
Great market down over 400 in pre hours, I’m not mentioning stocks again jinxed myself
One thing I can tell you is here is what matters to crypto: Bitcoin prices have been let's say ~buoyed~ this year as investors bet that trillions of dollars of government and central bank spending around the world in response to the coronavirus-induced economic slowdown will inevitably result in inflation, and therefore be positive for the cryptocurrency.
As such, if a stimulus deal is reached, BTC may rise further.
Where the fuck is the $2,400 BTW, BTC? repukers better agree to $2 trill or BTC may take a hit, the likes of which have never, ever been seen before.
I don’t know how many years I have had bitcoin but it’s very hard to track its performance tied to the economy at large or the market itself. It often seems to have its own mind. I’m not even sure of its price now, I think it’s around 11,400 a coin but don’t quote me on that. It is a very bad investment, I hold it because of the anti federal reserve independent thing. The whole concept still interests me I just let it ride.
Bitcoin is at 11,745 dollars per coin. Well short of it’s high of course but damn not even ten years ago they were less that 1 cent per coin. Crazy to think about. First time I checked it price in months. I actually told bffbeaner about a coin, different coin when it was 2cents a share. Shortly after it went up to .75 cents a coin. Looks like it’s around 8 cents now. Wouldn’t make you rich unless you dropped a shitload on it but at least if buddybeaner did end up buying it he wouldn’t have lost it all and been cursing me, well he curses me anyway but you know what I mean.
Ok wtf now bitcoin is 12,340 per coin. I haven’t even been thinking about it, it gets mentioned and now it is doing a bull run
Shit now bitcoin is 12,863 dollars we call this mooning certainly lambos n shitz are in my near future it obviously isn’t going to stop
Ha!
No way this can go tits up this time
Ha!
Stonks and bitcoin only go up
Ha!
Bitcoin about to break 13,000. Wtf this idiot Brocktonballbuster mentions it and it moves up 2k? That is screwed up.
Ha?
Ok bitcoin at 13,500. Wtf. It ran up to over 13,700 first time since 2018. Wtf is going on. Should we all sell our bitcoin and buy back at the crash?
One bitcoin now 15,300. Wtf that’s a 4K+ move since broctonballbuster mentioned it. Is Brockton a bitcoin whale manipulating the price
I been devising an alogorhythm using the GMMA comboned with a great indicator INHO called the RSI, which removes the lagging aspects of the Guppy Moving Average Method, if youre doing spot or arbitrage. Next trade I'm using GOLDEN CROSS: let me break down the GMMA for amateurs here:
BREAKING DOWN ‘GUPPY MULTIPLE MOVING AVERAGE – GMMA’
The relationship between the two sets of moving averages is used by traders to determine if the outlook of short-term traders aligns with investors who have a longer-term outlook. I often use the Moving Average Convergence Divergence (or MACD) which is a trend-following indicator but not for long-term movements.
I have been successfully identifying Changing trends when the two groups of moving averages intersect. A bullish trend is present when the short-term moving averages are above the long-term averages. Conversely, a bearish trend occurs when the short-term averages are below the long-term averages.
Sorry I forgot to illuminate what RSI is: The relative strength index (RSI) is a momentum indicator used in technical analysis that measures the magnitude of recent price changes to evaluate overbought or oversold conditions in the price of a stock or other asset. The RSI is displayed as an oscillator (a line graph that moves between two extremes) and can have a reading from 0 to 100. The indicator was originally developed by J. Welles Wilder Jr. and introduced in his seminal 1978 book, "New Concepts in Technical Trading Systems."
Although "Traditional" :rolleyes: interpretation and usage of the RSI are that values of 70 or above (yeah, right :rolleyes:0 indicate that a security is becoming overbought or overvalued, I have been using it in conjunction with the Guppy Method so I can be primed for a trend reversal or corrective pullback in price. An RSI reading of 30 or below indicates an oversold or undervalued condition. But you cant use it in isolation. Unless you have money to burn!
It’s funny about the same time you mentioned it the maintenance guy at work started talking about it to me. He likes the no federal reserve “the peoples money” thing and how it came about. I asked him if he had any he said no. I never recommend anyone buy bitcoin but I told him if he really likes it he could buy 10 bucks worth or something so he could be in. I told him a few ways to go about doing so. I saw him Friday he was all pissed off he didn’t. I told him not to worry in a couple months it’ll probably be at 3k again.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
Well bitcoin broke 17,000 usd. Odd thing is I don’t see a lot of fomo at the moment. It’s not all over the news, internet searches aren’t particularly crazy about bitcoin at the minute. Leads me to believe it’s big money moving the price. I know PayPal announced some bitcoin involvement along with square but that is kind of old news. Basically I was digging around a little trying to see what is behind the sudden spike. A lot of people got burnt on btc when it hit twenty thousand a while back. Bottom line I have no idea. It’s not like a stock where you can read a about, let’s say Apple adding a new service or Berkshire Hathaway buying 1 billion shares of something. I did read JP Morgan put a 300,000 usd price target on btc but if you dig into that it wasn’t J.P. Morgan it was some dude who works for J.P. Morgan. Probably just bought a bunch and wanted to pump up the price.
quick buy stocks in listerine
Bitcoin 18,567 dollars. I give up is it just going to plow through every record now.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-4UD-i27et8 this is what happens when btc breaks 19k, the cat gets happy